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To ask if the red weather warning will now make you take climate change seriously?

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YetiTeri · 16/07/2022 14:34

Now you know what impact this heat will have (schools closing, travel chaos, threat to life) will it make you take climate change more seriously?

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VeniVidiWeeWee · 16/07/2022 23:38

Is anyone prepared to give up social media?

The forecasts for it's future power usage are truly astonishing?

Liebig · 16/07/2022 23:55

VeniVidiWeeWee · 16/07/2022 23:38

Is anyone prepared to give up social media?

The forecasts for it's future power usage are truly astonishing?

The Internet will likely fail completely before anyone considers curtailing emissions voluntarily for all the server farms. A large number of people consider virtual activity to have no impact on the world. Like we can all just grow our economies by becoming celebrity TikTokkers or Substack writers.

Liebig · 17/07/2022 00:04

lemmein · 16/07/2022 23:33

At least I'm not arrogant enough to think I can save the planet from the next Ice Age or Meteor strike. Humans really know no bounds...!

👏🏻👏🏻

I think some people struggle to understand that for some of us, survival of the species isn't a huge deal; yea before civilisation ends there is likely to be famine and suffering, but there's famine and suffering now, always has been - it's actually a great privilege to worry about something that many people alive right now on this planet have endured their whole lives. Is it more important that I, or my kids, or my grandkids suffer that? Well, no actually, in the grand scheme of things it isn't. So many people don't give a shit about people living in poverty in this country, right now there are kids who have gone to bed hungry....so fuck....but, like covid, climate change affects us all equally so they expect collective action. If these things only affected those at the bottom like fuck would you all have been wearing your masks in Waitrose 😂

So civilisation ends and humans are wiped out, so what?

Currently, climate change has been hitting the poorest and worst off countries far more than the rich north. That changing means people freak out and demand action, provided said action doesn’t impact on their lives negatively in a way that is almost, but not quite, as bad as climate change. Remember having to pay for plastic bags? I know. I almost marched on Whitehall too.

It’s great entertainment, to be sure. I can’t wait for the gov’t response to full on riots because the crops in whatever third world hellhole failed, and now migrants are swamping Europe and we can’t heat our homes or drive anywhere because we didn’t plan for any of this despite decades of warning.

I’m going to get a V8 Interceptor and patrol the M1 for guzzoline shipments and hijack them. Maybe get a dog. That’s my retirement plan.

YetiTeri · 17/07/2022 06:07

In answer to my question then, people who cared about climate change still care. And those that thought it was hoax or don't give a shit about brown people dying haven't changed their minds.

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Areil · 17/07/2022 06:15

But your question was about the red weather warning?

im currently sitting in a hoodie in the rain. It isn’t warm here and there’s no red or amber warning for here.

yes I’m in the uk.

the red warning has as much effect on me as a red warning in Australia.

I already do my best for climate change but there are things I can’t change any more than I already have (such as how much I use my car or how often work expect
me to travel) and I’m not going to feel guilty
for that. It won’t achieve anything.

there needs to be wholesale reform at the macro level.

MarshaBradyo · 17/07/2022 06:25

YetiTeri · 17/07/2022 06:07

In answer to my question then, people who cared about climate change still care. And those that thought it was hoax or don't give a shit about brown people dying haven't changed their minds.

I don’t think people will change their minds

For the latter some won’t care their dc will face hardship so brown people far away won’t touch the surface. Tbf that’s probably a majority view, even factors on our doorstep won’t do much although most probably do care about survival of dc and gdc

It takes a huge amount to suppress consuming, they had to a bit with the pandemic but it takes high cost and removal of service.

The mass migration mentioned below will be difficult, not sure how U.K. will respond but perhaps some countries will become more attractive due to border realities.

YetiTeri · 17/07/2022 06:30

The red weather warning is for the hottest ever recorded temperature in the UK resulting in threat to life, major disruption etc. The label is not the point.

Whenever there is a protest people come on here to talk about the disruption to their lives. Now there is predicted climate based disruption. The question was what would it take, and I guess the answer is crop failure.

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Areil · 17/07/2022 06:31

the label is the point. It’s literally your headline? The red warning isn’t for all of the uk. So it doesn’t affect me. So it will make no difference to me and what I do

YetiTeri · 17/07/2022 07:04

You can care about something even if it doesn't affect you.

But ok. For the people who are in the red warning area would the impact of the effects of the temperature prompting the reason for the red label make you care more. That better?

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Areil · 17/07/2022 07:06

i do care? I thought I had made that clear?

I answered the question you asked?

YetiTeri · 17/07/2022 07:09

I know, I read your post. I thought you were critiquing my question for other people. I already care, you already care. Many people don't.

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User738645 · 17/07/2022 07:13

There is a separate section for climate change, maybe you should have posted there, what is the point of the subsections if no one uses them, it's in 'other stuff'

Areil · 17/07/2022 07:13

I wasn’t critiquing it as such I was - and am - just confused because the question was about the relevance of the red weather warning to my actions.

i already do my best. A weather warning - even if it did affect me - wouldn’t make a difference to that.

malificent7 · 17/07/2022 07:21

Well yes...have been forever. However we are all moaning about the price rises for fossil fuel when in reality we need to forget petrol, diesel, gas and oil and move onto nuclear fission(?) solar, wind , waves and cars that run on vegetable oil.
But the corporations are in charge so we are screwed unless we stop voting in parties such as the Tories who are in bed with big business.

sweetieqie · 17/07/2022 07:21

lemmein · 16/07/2022 23:33

At least I'm not arrogant enough to think I can save the planet from the next Ice Age or Meteor strike. Humans really know no bounds...!

👏🏻👏🏻

I think some people struggle to understand that for some of us, survival of the species isn't a huge deal; yea before civilisation ends there is likely to be famine and suffering, but there's famine and suffering now, always has been - it's actually a great privilege to worry about something that many people alive right now on this planet have endured their whole lives. Is it more important that I, or my kids, or my grandkids suffer that? Well, no actually, in the grand scheme of things it isn't. So many people don't give a shit about people living in poverty in this country, right now there are kids who have gone to bed hungry....so fuck....but, like covid, climate change affects us all equally so they expect collective action. If these things only affected those at the bottom like fuck would you all have been wearing your masks in Waitrose 😂

So civilisation ends and humans are wiped out, so what?

Yeah, your kids are the ones being wiped out, not Anonymous people 2000 years from now. If there is drought or crop failure, wars over resources- it's your kids that aren't making it

malificent7 · 17/07/2022 07:23

I am hoping the price rises will force us to consider alternatives such as car sharing,working from home, less heating ...more layers etc....its the silver lining.

But please can't the government introduce a solar panel scheme and provide proper insulation.

malificent7 · 17/07/2022 07:25

I do fear for my child but I have only had 1 child and climate change is 1 reason for this.

Francophilia · 17/07/2022 07:30

No, because I am scientifically literate (PhD). I’m guessing you were also unable to think critically about the Covid models published in comparison to the subsequent the real life data?

It is a fantastic wheeze for some though.

User738645 · 17/07/2022 07:33

Yeah, your kids are the ones being wiped out, not Anonymous people 2000 years from now. If there is drought or crop failure, wars over resources- it's your kids that aren't making it

Not everyone has kids though, why should they worry about others.

MarshaBradyo · 17/07/2022 07:35

User738645 · 17/07/2022 07:33

Yeah, your kids are the ones being wiped out, not Anonymous people 2000 years from now. If there is drought or crop failure, wars over resources- it's your kids that aren't making it

Not everyone has kids though, why should they worry about others.

I can understand those who don’t have any dc but don’t get those who do

I’m pretty sure survival instinct would kick in even if it’s easy to say you don’t care if they die

YetiTeri · 17/07/2022 07:35

Francophilia · 17/07/2022 07:30

No, because I am scientifically literate (PhD). I’m guessing you were also unable to think critically about the Covid models published in comparison to the subsequent the real life data?

It is a fantastic wheeze for some though.

What is your PhD in?

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sweetieqie · 17/07/2022 07:36

User738645 · 17/07/2022 07:33

Yeah, your kids are the ones being wiped out, not Anonymous people 2000 years from now. If there is drought or crop failure, wars over resources- it's your kids that aren't making it

Not everyone has kids though, why should they worry about others.

That poster had kids.

onlythreenow · 17/07/2022 07:44

So you only worry about climate change when it affects your own country, is that what you are saying?

Bubblebubblebah · 17/07/2022 08:09

onlythreenow · 17/07/2022 07:44

So you only worry about climate change when it affects your own country, is that what you are saying?

That's actually truth for many things not just climate change. It usually have not much to do with colour of inhabitants either. Just the fact it's so far, and so removed, people don't care. Until something hits them, they don't. Tbh i believe it's some kind of self preservation mechanism actually because if people cared about everything everyone wants them to care about, they would combust.

Climate issues, ethnic cleansings, genocides, humanitarian crisis', wars/conflicts, starvation... It's all over the world, it's happening all the time. No one can care about everything.

Frankly, climate was supposed to be taken seriously even before I was born and changes were supposed to be made, but nah. It's us who are the bad ones ruining planet. That's also why some people are fed up btw. It's hard to make people actually care about issue they inherited and now are tutted at for.

DyingForACuppa · 17/07/2022 08:16

I do everything on your 'take it seriously' list and more, and have done so all my life.

Hotter temperatures are hardly a suprise at this point.