To ask if the red weather warning will now make you take climate change seriously?

[YetiTeri]

Now you know what impact this heat will have (schools closing, travel chaos, threat to life) will it make you take climate change more seriously?

Genuine question because I'm clearly not clued up on this. What's wrong with Shein?

True. It is for example easy (and I do) criticise those who drive SUVs, but the manufacturers could stop making them except as specialist utility vehicles for rural dwellers. And industry creates more than 90% of all waste, yet women get hounded for using disposable sanitary protection.

That said, people can do more to help their own local areas. It's not just about the global picture - improving local air quality is not difficult if people are considerate.

Focusing on flight is really naive. Aviation as a whole accounts for just 2% of CO2e emissions and is rapidly developing net zero strategies. Construction and infrastructure, energy, surface transport are all decarbonising.

The biggest source of CO2e emissions is from electricity generation, and yes the UK government and big corporations are taking massive strides in transitioning domestic consumers have to take some personal responsibility.

Oh goody, all the 'I remember hot summers before' or 'the Thames used to freeze' people are out. I'm a former climate scientist and I'm slapping my head right now, I forgot to take that into account!

The average temperature in the United Kingdom has increased by roughly 1 degree in the last 50 years. That is a fact, what you 'remember' is an anecdote.

Whether or not I buy affordable clothing from questionable sites and stop eating meat won't make the slightest difference. Its the big players who need to change to make an impact and that isn't going to happen so I really don't see the point of living in near poverty to afford decent clothes/bars of shampoo etc and eating food I hate. It won't help and frankly I think it's too late to help even if the big industries stopped tomorrow.

The best thing I can do is not have children and be glad that I'll be dead by the time the shit really hits the fan.

No. Lived in Spain for 10 years and we had this weather daily for 3/4 of the year

Yet again, media painting the town literally RED!

Agree totally with a pp who said it's too late now anyway.

Myself and my friends do everything we can for climate control but without governments and corporations on board it feels like we're on a hiding to nothing.

I don’t know why OPs think such posts are engaging when your tone sounds like a stern parent or teacher giving a child a bollocking. How do you know what measures people are taking. It’s all very “ have you learned your lesson now!!” Smug, worthy and lecturing.

Like what? I switch to low energy items when I can, I don't throw away clothes after a few uses, switch off stuff I don't use, I only have one child. I bet my carbon footprint is a fraction of Prince Charles. So no I'm not giving up meat and my car

Their whole business model is problematic. They sell poor quality clothes very cheaply then they fly them over to be worn just a few times before the consumer repeats the cycle. Every stage of their supply chain is considerably adding to environmental damage. So are others obviously, but it's the scale of Shein's expansion which is the problem.

@HuffleWoof the 29 companies thing is so deliberately disingenuous as to be laughable, the tragedy is that it was sponsored in part by the Climate Disclosure Project but completely misrepresented by the right wing press. So a well intended study is spun to suggest that it is just these companies who are responsible for climate change which is utter garbage and encourages

I don’t know what the answer is but the thought of living under totalitarian rules about where we can go and how, what we can eat and how often etc makes me feel sick.

No, because the main polluters aren’t us, because we have exported our pollution to China etc.
My home is insulated double glazing, wall and loft what else can I do.
I don’t agree with companies buying tree planting etc to be carbon neutral.
I live miles from train station. I reuse and use refill shop and buy organic.
Plus I don’t buy loads. My house is dated because I don’t throw out and decorate for nothing.

The Green Party here in Scotland purge members who think women don't have knobs, so I will never vote for them.

Until insane 'progressive' agendas are divorced from the climate change agenda nobody can take eco politics seriously.

Sorry posted too soon.

.....encourages individuals and organisations to defer responsibility. The study looks at scope 3 emissions but the media hype these as scope 1 emissions which a completely different thing.

I am conscious of my consumption and impact on the planet because actions affect animals and ecosystems all of the time- many people only seem arsed about something which might affect us as humans which is quite telling. On the whole though I think there's a fair amount of cognitive dissodence in that we live on a planet and are at the mercy of science- there have been changes to weather systems throughout the millenia, it's nothing new. Not to say actions aren't worth doing and won't have an impact, but it's not overly unusual either we are just pretty cosseted and because we have bulldozed the planet to suit us as humans a lot forget that. On a lighter note the sun will explode one day as all stars do and then global warming won't be an issue.

As an aside as well people can only be more eco if they have the money and resources to be. Train travel is pricey, it's easy to blame cheap fashion brands and whilst their manufacturing processes have an impact (as all fashion does)- someone might buy something of theirs and wear it hundreds of times (quality of other brands isn't actually much better now days to be honest). The general principles of only buying what you need and then reusing it is the most important. The exception is for really expensive brands that use premium materials ie a pair of boots made well will last longer than primark; but then are those splashing hundreds/thousands on clothes more likely to follow trends as they can afford to?

I'm not smug I'm pissed off. I'm pissed off that people think they know better than climate scientists.m. I'm pissed off the media focuses on families on the one cheap holiday a year and let's the frequent flying celeb/Uber rich off the hook. I'm pissed off that children will be the ones to suffer this knowing we did nothing.

So I don't really care what you think of my tone or style @Incywincyspi because nicely has done fuck all.

I've always taken it seriously.

However I don't take this weather too seriously or worry about it as I lived in a hot country for 7 years.

To me - this is summer.

We need to adapt to deal with heat. The same way we've adapted to deal with heavy rainfall.

Scotland has adapted to the snow because it happens all the time there

@YetiTeri

I don't understand enough about their business model to comment on that, but I buy a lot of clothes from Shien for both me and DD and we don't wear them only a few times - we get much more wear than that from them.

@GiveMeNovocain you don't have to give up your meat or car, look for the red tractor and walk or cycle when possible.

There is only one Prince Charles (perhaps fortunately?) but there are millions of the rest of us.

Oh and by the way the whole meat and water thing is another misrepresented academic paper.

Frm what I gather she's saying that even if it [climate change] was within our control (highly dubious), the actions of the Anglosphere are utterly insignificant when China, India and the other developing nations are going to exponentially increase their consumption of fossil fuel.

It’s like worrying about a leaky tap on the titanic after it’s hit the iceberg.

@DenholmElliot1 what, specifically, should corporations and government be doing that they are not already?

No canna say it will.

I already did.

Well the government investing in making public transport affordable and accessible for everyone would be a start.