To ask if the red weather warning will now make you take climate change seriously?

[YetiTeri]

Now you know what impact this heat will have (schools closing, travel chaos, threat to life) will it make you take climate change more seriously?

Do you feel you're contributing anything useful with your approach? Please feel free to explain what that is.

Hear hear

Yet Greenpeace still campaigns against Golden Rice, a vitamin-enhanced variety that could save hundreds of thousands of lives a year.

Seemingly to keep the alarmist narrative going...

theecologist.org/2015/sep/02/golden-rice-gm-superfood-fell-earth

Just to clarify, by man made I mean the causes of the changes to the climate are man made. As in caused by man. As in extra mining, installation of wind turbines and solar panels under the guise of protecting the planet from man's actions if you get my drift? I know what I mean.

And no one mentions other countries building out into the oceans, companies drilling down into the earths mantle to stand wind turbines, siting massive solar farms, the vast mines to service the elements required to produce lithium batteries. If the world's societies learned to lessen their usages instead of finding different ways to still take take take that might have a better effect.

There’s always Google, but I digress.

We’re talking about ecological overshoot and climate change, and Shellenberger has zero credentials in this. I would suggest reading Donnella Meadows and William Catton.

Specifically The Limits To Growth 1972 original and 30 year updates and the book Overshoot.

Bonus book: The Economic Superorganism by Carey King.

Nope. IF there are any global temperatures changes, they ain't man made.

This was a particularly cold and late spring/summer. Dunno what difference a couple of days of heat make.

How can you be this ignorant?

Nope, I don't care at all.

I recycle, but only because the normal bin is half the size 🤷🏻‍♀️

Have kids?

I'm already very anxious about how much were damaging our planet and the effects it has. Hopefully it's a wake up to those still living with their heads in their arses the sand.

Have kids?

Yes. If I cycle to work will they become immortal?

What can I do? I already do not drive anywhere. I recycle where I can. I upcycle old clothing to make new, and I don't have kids.
But because I fucking hate paper straws, I am destroying the planet.

I take it seriously but feel completely powerless...?

Nope. Just wondering.

That mentality compounded by eight billion means they will grow up to see the fall of our civilisation. I hope you enjoy your early years with them. By 2050, they’ll be fighting to not be part of Immortan Joe’s harem in the water wars.

Or maybe nothing happens. Hey, it’s only science. They could all be wrong. All the scientists.

I was taking it seriously anyway. So were many others.

*Nope. Just wondering.

That mentality compounded by eight billion means they will grow up to see the fall of our civilisation. I hope you enjoy your early years with them. By 2050, they’ll be fighting to not be part of Immortan Joe’s harem in the water wars.

Or maybe nothing happens. Hey, it’s only science. They could all be wrong. All the scientists.*

Lol

I hate paper straws too. Have a metal one, which ironically took the energy and water of many plastic ones to make.

The “plastic straws are murdering us” campaign was ill advised. Plastic straws were not a major threat. It was literally all the other packaging that was, among other things.

I’m sure McDonald’s is carbon neutral now they have paper straws to go with their industrial scale operations of meat and dairy farming and A/C controlled properties.

It's worth considering who those companies are. Oil giants, mostly. Who funds oil giants? We do, every time we fill up the tank.

Emissions need to be counted at the consumer level. People bang on about China, yet omit to mention that a significant proportion of Chinese emissions comes from making cheap consumer goods for us. If you don't buy crap, there won't be any emissions.

Strangely, this fact never dawns on some people. Apparently the oil companies are forcing us all to carry on using their product in ever more imaginative ways, and if only they could just stop polluting we’d all be fine.

Wait, why’s my petrol nearly two quid a litre?! This is an outrage! I demand to have a leisurely Sunday drive as I see fit.

No. We all knew this stuff already. It is not in our gift to make it different. The world will be fine, but humans probably won't and yes we will take some other species down with us. Recycling, not flying, insulating will make absolutely bugger all difference. There needs to be many many less of us. If everyone in the uk died tomorrow and the whole area was rewilded, it would still make bugger all difference. We are way beyond anything humans can do.

Good points

In the OPs case, she starts a thread with a question pre supposing that 'people' dont feel climate change is an issue. Mistake number one

Then within that she muddles up the red weather warning (which was invented last year) with a sudden impending worsening of climate change. Its simply a statement created by the circumstances for a couple of days. It doesnt mean that Monday suddenly we are worse off than ever (and its forecast for about 29 where I am). Mistake number two.

Still she can feel like she is 'doing something' in contrast to the rest of us thickos.

At least I'm not arrogant enough to think I can save the planet from the next Ice Age or Meteor strike. Humans really know no bounds...!

No. I don’t think my attitude to climate change is going to change, but I was already fairly conscious of it and I do try to consider my impact on the environment in day to day life already. Really though anything an individual can do is a drop in the ocean compared to big businesses, corporations, governments etc and a lot of change needs to come from the top to truly make a difference.

At least I'm not arrogant enough to think I can save the planet from the next Ice Age or Meteor strike. Humans really know no bounds...!

👏🏻👏🏻

I think some people struggle to understand that for some of us, survival of the species isn't a huge deal; yea before civilisation ends there is likely to be famine and suffering, but there's famine and suffering now, always has been - it's actually a great privilege to worry about something that many people alive right now on this planet have endured their whole lives. Is it more important that I, or my kids, or my grandkids suffer that? Well, no actually, in the grand scheme of things it isn't. So many people don't give a shit about people living in poverty in this country, right now there are kids who have gone to bed hungry....so fuck....but, like covid, climate change affects us all equally so they expect collective action. If these things only affected those at the bottom like fuck would you all have been wearing your masks in Waitrose 😂

So civilisation ends and humans are wiped out, so what?