To think other cultures are far more invested in their DCs education than UK parents?

[Commentqueen]

Just an observation from our area... We live in a really diverse area & it's amazing. My dc go to state school with children with Eastern European, Chinese, German, Scandinavian, Bangladeshi, Nigerian & Japanese parents... The work ethic is unbelievable & the parents don't seem to trust the school to educate their kids, they do alot themselves outside school with the dc.. The UK parents in the class are alot more relaxed when it comes to education...
Aibu to think the UK just isn't as invested in education as other cultures?
The Ukranian refugee crisis also highlighted that the ukranian children joining British & Irish schools were away ahead in maths in comparison to their new counterparts & many also had excellent English... The UK really lag behind in foreign languages.. In years to come my dc who only speak English so far will be competing for jobs with dc who speak 4 or 5 languages fluently... I know come September I'll be doing my best to prepare my dc better!

There are more than you know on all sorts of fields.

Doesn't seem very aspirational to limit yourself to only your small circle.

Very pleased my DH and I aren't so blinkered.

I was never common in my youth I meant the common ways around you, not suggesting that you had common ways.

I never spoke to those kids to start with. so you didn't speak to any other kids growing up because everyone was abnormal until you went to University? Did you house share? Did you only speak to students if you approved of their degree as worthy?

However, if you speak to someone that smokes, what are you telling the wider audience, you approve of smoking? you have no idea whether anyone you talk to smokes, imbibed alcohol, takes drugs or has had sex with more than one person. Its beyond naive to think you know which of your colleagues enjoys a line or two on a Saturday night, how many people they've slept with, etc. And similarly to assume that the WC are all drug taking, chain smoking, drunken whores.

What theatre will I meet a former school mate drop out in? well I said me, as in generic wc not a specific kid you went to school with. It might scare you, but there's absolutely no reason beyond geography why you and I wouldn't be in the same theatre.

This is just getting more and more bonkers. You’re not making any sense and don’t seem to have any concept of nuance.

If you think MN is working class no idea what other forums you’re hanging out on.

also, there is a board for South Asian mumsnetters but you might not want to come over there in case people don’t have the right kind of degrees or higher education that meets your standards

'Career, religion, decent lifestyle that doesn't involve drugs, smoking, alcohol, multiple sexual partners.'

DH and I both went to a RG university and read law. Our university classmates were getting drunk pretty regularly.The vast majority were not virgins either at age 19. My DH picked up smoking at university; he came from an orthodox jewish background and so it was all new to him. he doesn't smoke anymore thankfully. Its quite common for young people to have tried drugs at some point, whatever background they come from.

I am curious where you meet all these positively puritian young professionals. Most young people have sex out of wedlock, go to the pub for a pint (or two or three); a lot would have tried smoking or drugs at some point in their youth. Vast majority of young people are not religious; even my DH who grew up religious has had casual sex twice before he met me (after his long time girlfriend cheated on him). His sister lived with her boyfriend before getting married. Its not even about white vs non white; my husband is from such a conservative background that his mother doesn't even wear trousers (cos its immodest) and she goes to a woman only gym but even he wouldn't meet your standards.

lol at the comments about drugs and sexual partners. In my experience the more wealthy and ‘middle or upper class’ the background the more experimentation and sadly cocaine is very popular amongst many middle class professional. Also most young people will experiment with both anyway, especially at university.

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People don't see it, they mock those that point it out.

@IVFPrayingForBioChild

Well your choice, however DH and I bothwith our first class RG uni degrees have worked and lived in the countries you are making sweeping generalisations about.

@IVFPrayingForBioChild I'm not sure what religion you are, but I'm assuming the only Christians you hang out with are the puritan sort, because of all friends I know who live a life under God, none of them were virgins on their wedding night, they've all imbibed alcohol on a regular occurrence (I mean even Jesus like a wine!), no idea on drugs - unlikely but possible
I don't think having such a narrow view of people who are "good enough for me" can actually enhance anyone's life, if only because it must take u pso much headspace to constantly work out who IS good enough. The CEO at work / lead Surgeon whatever? Probably drinks off the top shelf. Top Lawyer etc, wait until the proper Champagne is out. And do you check everyone's virginity / virginity upon marriage state?

How would you know that my Christian, very clever lawyer friend has had more sexual partners before she got married than I did?

Quote from a UK teacher on another thread: getting to almost rote learning here, definitely no creativity flowing through....

"At A level students are given essay plans and model answers to as many protential exam questions as possible. I hated this. It stiffles any creativity and free thinking, but it all goes to help push up those grades. Students learn answers parrot fashion, often with no real understanding of the subject matter.

The very idea that they could help themselves by reading books or exploring other areas connected to the topics is utterly alien to all but the very best of students. If it isn't in a handout or a powerpoint they don't want to know. Even then, reading the handouts on their own is out of the question. They want to read through them in class with a highlighter pen in hand. Essays were frequently cut and paste efforts from the internet - and the tantrums and parental calls when they are challenged about this and instructed to do the essay again......."