To think other cultures are far more invested in their DCs education than UK parents?

[Commentqueen]

Just an observation from our area... We live in a really diverse area & it's amazing. My dc go to state school with children with Eastern European, Chinese, German, Scandinavian, Bangladeshi, Nigerian & Japanese parents... The work ethic is unbelievable & the parents don't seem to trust the school to educate their kids, they do alot themselves outside school with the dc.. The UK parents in the class are alot more relaxed when it comes to education...
Aibu to think the UK just isn't as invested in education as other cultures?
The Ukranian refugee crisis also highlighted that the ukranian children joining British & Irish schools were away ahead in maths in comparison to their new counterparts & many also had excellent English... The UK really lag behind in foreign languages.. In years to come my dc who only speak English so far will be competing for jobs with dc who speak 4 or 5 languages fluently... I know come September I'll be doing my best to prepare my dc better!

Exactly. It’s pure ignorance to assume that a degree is required to launch a career.

A qualified tradesperson can earn more by their mid-20s than most university graduates ever can. It can also be a paid route to say, project management in construction and engineering as opposed to racking up huge debt by taking the study only route.

I'll ask for my posts to be removed.
I've always said Mumsnet is a working class white woman forum.
Hopefully, they'll have a forum for Indian people like they do for black people.

They don't come here for you.

I didn’t say they did. But with your views I’m wondering why they would choose U.K. with such a negative outlook of it

But yes get posts removed as you wish they read badly in terms of prejudice

It's only when you get to university you meet white British people that seem 'normal' as in they care about education and progress
The white British families immigrants are first exposed to are their fear - their children will end up like that .
Well its interesting in know that DSs best friends parents secretly hate us / fear ever being like us and are counting down the next 12 years until they can meet "normal" people through their child. I'll be sure to tell her we shouldn't be friends any more and to keep my child away from hers should I?

You assume my history I’m predominantly Australian I chose U.K. as I like the culture, I wouldn’t do so otherwise. And I’ve found good schools for dc

I find it odd you’d surround yourself with any culture you don’t like. But I guess you could be in your own bubble which is up to you, no skin off my nose.

Meanwhile we will be around British dc and our dc are British, as they don’t have ties to Aus as I do beyond family there or a passport etc

Anyway I’m finding it unusually antagonistic so I’ll leave you to it.

Well you've said yourself, there's no pont asking her. You have the wisdom to speak for an entire nation who all hate everyone in their new country apart from the people at University. I mean it isn't like those Uni kids came from "normal" families before Uni. No kid who goes to a school in a WC area from WC parents EVER go to Uni. It's a revelation to know that if DS or his brothers go to Uni in 12/16 years time, I'll be worthy of her friendship.

Interestingly one of the reasons they're resolved against going home is that she remembers how intense her own education was and likes that her child can do dancing and art classes after school instead of studying until 9 pm like she was. As much as she values education and is well educated, she also sees that different isn't wrong or sub par, and that her bright daughter isn't being tainted with the filth of English white kids.

I'm just saying that they community I was first exposed to, that community I will never associate with unless it's via the service sector. no I did clarify the working class bit, or would you prefer underclass? The ones only good enough to serve you, not be friends with your kids incase they catch WC cooties

But you do realise that some of those lower classes will have kids who go to Uni, who have jobs aside your kids

Don’t think so. In my area, the English parents, are very much invested. I have no praise for my primary and secondary Eastern European education system. At 14 we had 14 subjects running concurrently, all very academic and very stressful. The only benefit of that system is that you learn to preserve and keep going. My NZ Uni experience was very chilled and I learned more there about the group work, presenting and thinking for myself. The English system is a tad insane - reception kids have to read and write…Not even Eastern Europeans are this mad.

Oh of course not, they're fine if they're there to serve you, so long as your kids don't have to associate with them and only have to associate with "normal" people.

Yes yes yes. Let's not forget this. Sometimes a parent has left a stressful role and took a lower paid job or just took a job to fit around school hours.

Well apart from the rudeness of calling people who don't want to be, or don't have the opportunity to be middle class, abnormal...

No one is suggesting you should become working class, but you seem to feel like the worst thing that could happen is to ever meet one who wasn't there to serve you.

When your kids go to a uni to do a "proper" degree at a RG University, you have no idea who they'll mix with. Imagine your kids telling them it's OK for them to associate with them now because they're normal now, but their roots are abnormal.

And it is "future kids" because you're talking about "most Indian families" not "personally, I never intend to talk to someone socially below me unless they're there to serve me. No degree, no chat."

And vyou can be socially mobile without having to leave behind anyone who knew you "back then", for fear of being dragged back down into the gutters you think so many of us live in.

I don't see the point of speaking to people I went to school with that left without GCSE's.

Moor fool you. Yoh do realise there are loads of highly succesful and wealthy people who left school with nothing.

If the only way you to maintain the lifestyle yo u aspire to is to cut off anyone who is different to you, that shows a weakness in you.

Of course, my opinion is worthless. I'm just a thick wc SAHM with an out of date degree. No doubt if we ever meet at the theatre or such place, five minutes in my company would have you reverting to the common ways of your youth.