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To be hopping mad if Rishi gets pm job?

267 replies

malificent7 · 10/07/2022 09:47

Simply because he is super rich and his wife evaded tax while we all struggle with the cost of living? How can they let him stand?

This is not a racist thread btw.

OP posts:
Prettypussy · 10/07/2022 13:34

No man that small should be allowed to be PM!

plugee · 10/07/2022 13:35

it's that it was his job to set the tax regime and it was done in a way that hugely benefited his family.

Err he didn't make the nom dom rule & the idea he could abolish it once in is ridiculous

Xenia · 10/07/2022 13:37

The first posts on the thread are libellous and muddle tax evasion - a crime - with lawfully reducing your tax bill - avoidance which is lawful and should be removed.

Nanananananana99 · 10/07/2022 13:41

AnaïsM · 10/07/2022 13:34

And there we have it again. Be brown and marry a foreign wife and you aren’t committed to the UK.

But the left are definitely not all racists…

Then you should be happy that the reason he won’t get through as a candidate is because his policies are not compatible with what the rest of the Tory MPs consider to be conservatism.

It is amusing to be wedded to the notion of higher taxes whilst legally avoiding as much as possible personally though.

LivingOnAnIsland · 10/07/2022 13:47

Hugasauras · 10/07/2022 10:01

That's not tax evasion, which is illegal. It's tax avoidance, which is legal.

This.

Don’t comment on his wife’s tax status if you don’t understand the difference between tax evasion and tax avoidance.

Also don’t comment unless you understand the difference between residency and domicile.

AnaïsM · 10/07/2022 13:50

Nanananananana99 · 10/07/2022 13:41

Then you should be happy that the reason he won’t get through as a candidate is because his policies are not compatible with what the rest of the Tory MPs consider to be conservatism.

It is amusing to be wedded to the notion of higher taxes whilst legally avoiding as much as possible personally though.

What taxes are you claiming that he avoided?

Is this yet another lie by someone who’s on the left but definitely not racist?

SnowyLamb · 10/07/2022 13:50

LivingOnAnIsland · 10/07/2022 13:47

This.

Don’t comment on his wife’s tax status if you don’t understand the difference between tax evasion and tax avoidance.

Also don’t comment unless you understand the difference between residency and domicile.

To be non-dom you have to state that you're not permanently resident. That is the issue.

If she's not (wasn't) permanently resident then she did nothing wrong, although she has since felt the need to change that and voluntarily pay the tax that she was perfectly correct in not paying Hmm

If she'd done nothing wrong we had a Chancellor who didn't see his family as permanently resident. That's the problem.

CredibilityProblem · 10/07/2022 13:55

Prettypussy · 10/07/2022 13:34

No man that small should be allowed to be PM!

Now that definitely is racist.

Lingoflaming · 10/07/2022 13:55

I personally believe that the current cabinet shouldn't be allowed to stand. Most of them knew all about the dodgy details of the Johnson premiership & chose to ignore it. So I think none of them should be allowed to stand, they're all as wealthy, if not more so, and corrupt as the last PM.

JanisMoplin · 10/07/2022 13:57

I don't want Rishi to become PM because of his policies and because he is probably a more committed Tory than anyone else ( as often happens with immigrants; I am one myself).

But by god, the bar for brown people is high. Perfectly ok for Boris to try to set up a cushy job for Carrie and scatter his seed everywhere, but not ok for Akshata Murthy to do something that is perfectly legal. And get in a few nasty jibes about his height, why don't you?

plugee · 10/07/2022 13:57

So what if they aren't permanent residents?

I've got my dc European passports because I want them to have more opportunity

SnowyLamb · 10/07/2022 13:57

Lingoflaming · 10/07/2022 13:55

I personally believe that the current cabinet shouldn't be allowed to stand. Most of them knew all about the dodgy details of the Johnson premiership & chose to ignore it. So I think none of them should be allowed to stand, they're all as wealthy, if not more so, and corrupt as the last PM.

Yes, I agree this is the far bigger issue. To be electable they're going to have to do some serious work in distancing themselves and hope the public has short memories.

00865jkk · 10/07/2022 13:58

And to those who talk about racism - I also thought that one of the many problems with Boris (there were too many to mention) - was that Brexit would take away EU freedom of travel while his daddy was getting his French on through and Boris himself is eligible for the American one. Every mocks Nick Clegg for basically selling the UK out whilst buggering off to the US. So no its not about racism but the fact that the recent spate of Tories are more focused on assisting global multinationals than the British voters.

SnowyLamb · 10/07/2022 13:59

plugee · 10/07/2022 13:57

So what if they aren't permanent residents?

I've got my dc European passports because I want them to have more opportunity

Well then they're unlikely to be elected PM!

It's perfectly legitimate for an individual to accept that they might have to leave the UK for the best opportunities, but it's hardly the attitude you want from your PM 😆

LadyWithLapdog · 10/07/2022 14:00

It’s obscene to have so much money you know you won’t live long enough to spend it.

It’s obscene to be so greedy you don’t pay your fair share in the country you live in, or you pay thousands a year to register yourself as non-dom so you can avoid tax.

Greed.

safetyfreak · 10/07/2022 14:01

I hate that man. With him as PM, our country will struggle much more. He will give people NO support and will keep raising taxes.

dirotgea · 10/07/2022 14:05

I don't understand how someone whose broken the rules as much as Boris can get the job. We might as well keep to having Boris?!

Yes, he was fined for breaking rules. Unlike Starmer, etc, he didn't offer to resign. So I don't think much of his integrity.

But I hope he does succeed, and that the public don't forget that, but I won't hold my breath.

plugee · 10/07/2022 14:08

Well then they're unlikely to be elected PM!

Apparently so as they are 3rd gen immigrants!

It's perfectly legitimate for an individual to accept that they might have to leave the UK for the best opportunities, but it's hardly the attitude you want from your PM

Why not? why does the public need to feel that the PM wants to stay in the UK forever to be a good PM?

AnaïsM · 10/07/2022 14:08

LadyWithLapdog · 10/07/2022 14:00

It’s obscene to have so much money you know you won’t live long enough to spend it.

It’s obscene to be so greedy you don’t pay your fair share in the country you live in, or you pay thousands a year to register yourself as non-dom so you can avoid tax.

Greed.

You have evidence that she hasn’t been paying her taxes? That’d be political dynamite, would you share it here?

SnowyLamb · 10/07/2022 14:10

plugee · 10/07/2022 14:08

Well then they're unlikely to be elected PM!

Apparently so as they are 3rd gen immigrants!

It's perfectly legitimate for an individual to accept that they might have to leave the UK for the best opportunities, but it's hardly the attitude you want from your PM

Why not? why does the public need to feel that the PM wants to stay in the UK forever to be a good PM?

You don't want your PM to be someone committed to the long term future of the country?

LadyWithLapdog · 10/07/2022 14:12

@AnaïsM you are a shit-stirrer. I refer you to what I wrote. HTH.

plugee · 10/07/2022 14:14

@SnowyLamb where did I say that?

00865jkk · 10/07/2022 14:15

@plugee honestly because having lived in a country in which the political elite mainly resided abroad once they were finished - the main problem is never having to live with their policies (as class). For example, environmental regulation/pollution regulation - not a problem if your kids live in Switzerland while you destroy them at home. It's fine to let the healthy service go - if you just travel to Germany if you're ever sick. Equally why care about the roads when you never use them. I can go on but there are many many reasons why it is not always a good idea to have political elites who basically see your country as a way of enriching themselves and your mates while ending up living somewhere else. Look at the rest of the world - and how many of their elites end up in London.

WotsitsQuavers · 10/07/2022 14:17

astoundedgoat · 10/07/2022 11:13

The fact that he is personally rich (through his wife) is neither here nor there, but doesn't it look more like he is a trophy project of his father in law, Narayan Murthy? I might be mis-remembering, but when he graduated and married his wife, Murthy set up him with a hedge fund, then set him up to run as an MP, and now Murthy gets the perfectly high status husband for his daughter in the shape of a Prime Minister?

I'm going to disagree with Sunak on most of his political beliefs, so I don't believe he's any worse than most of the candidates, but it feels like he is a highly intentional and perfectly executed project by his father in law. If he hadn't married Akshata Murthy he'd probably just have had a successful, but quiet financial career.

Not sure if that makes him a better or worse candidate for PM, but it does seem driven by strategy rather than passion, from the outside.

This. He is full PR and photo op. Making him look taller, PR photo ops, ready for rishi website registered in December 2021.

He does look like a trophy Ken Puppet. Who is the Puppetmaster? What are the motives?