To be hopping mad if Rishi gets pm job?

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Simply because he is super rich and his wife evaded tax while we all struggle with the cost of living? How can they let him stand?

This is not a racist thread btw.

Where is your evidence that this is how they see the UK?!
there isn’t any. Why are you making these assumptions?
i think some people need to be taking a look at themselves

No

as someone in the field - his wife definitely did not evade or avoid tax in any way

this is the same as if you benefitting from a cgt relief if you sell your main house

it’s not evasion

she is non-dom but uk resident - there is nothing wrong in that.

the ignorance is unbelievable

plugee ·
What's an example of someone who is committed?
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I think the fact he's so rich & doesn't need the scrutiny or stress but wants the job shows he's pretty committed. He's clearly ambitious & probably wants a legacy of some sort.

If I had £300 million and a partner worth several billion, what would be attractive in a £140k job to me? A job where I can set the tax rules? Has he shown during his time at the treasury any inclination of shifting some of the tax burden from the poor to the rich? Ask yourself just who is affected the most by the heaviest tax burden in decades he has imposed on everyone.

He will be elected as Tory leader by the party members as they know which side their bread is buttered. Which way the electorate will vote at the next election will depend on how much worse he is going to make it for them.

He was but where do you draw the line.

Sure I agree the concept of billionaires to me is insane. Incomprehensible really. It’s an incredible amount of money for an individual and it’s way way more than millionaire status.

Surely if we are to draw the line it’s there.

But really most of her wealth is company wealth it’s not hers. And even if we are to say it’s cash and strip all billionaires of all money and distribute it to us heathens then it’s a couple grand at most. Hardly life changing so why bother.

Man of the people Rishi?
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So which country did she pay tax in, if you're so sure it was paid?

And, how did she manage to argue that she was here temporarily, whilst married to and having children with the Chancellor of the Exchequer. Or is he here temporarily too?

Maybe you should do the same?

If wealth was more evenly distributed then those at the lower end could be net contributers instead of beneficiaries.

That a small % of the population have been able to hoard obsecene levels of wealth and then are allowed to avoid paying tax on it into the system is not the fault of the many. It's disingenuous to imply that those at the bottom are better off because they recieved more than they put in (which I'm not sure is true) and I'm sure everyone (bar the elite) would be more than happy to increase their tax burden if they were being paid fairly in the first place.

I'd also be interested to know if you've factored in other taxes like VAT, VED, fuel duty, council tax, alcohol duty, insurance premium tax, etc into your net beneficiary calculations?

I agree with you entirely.

I want Javid.

In MN world (champagne socialist) taking a pint glass home is stealing. Yet when I point out to my CS hard left parents that they employ a myriad of people on the dole and pay cash in hand to save the nasty tories taking their benefits they say its all.in proportion. So you should all think really carefully about how perfect you are where you shop what trades you support rather than just spouting this.

I think people would be pretty cross if a woman was not wanted in a job due to the financial circumstances of her husband. His wife has gazillions. She has legally ensured that her tax bill is minimised. Those gazillions are hers and whilst we can be jealous, it is ludicrous for her wealth to prejudice her husband’s job application.

I don’t know much about him and don’t have any views on who should be leader, but I do think his wife’s riches are irrelevant.

He does not need to be struggling with the cost of living to understand it and take action to help it. Do you expect a cancer nurse to have to have had cancer in order to help a cancer patient. No. You expect the nurse to have studied it. So his financial circumstances are irrelevant.

I thought the Tories were supposed to choose someone with different heritage to show they aren't racists? ..now it seems to be Rishi it's not good enough?

Does being rich mean you can't understand what poor people face!

I've never understood this logic? Even some very poor people won't be able to formulate plans or feel for other poor people?

Personally, I don't want him as pm .

But not because he has money.

Everyone is missing the point. It's not that he's married to wealthy woman, it's that it was his job to set the tax regime and it was done in a way that hugely benefited his family.

For almost any other job, it wouldn't be relevant, but for this one it is .

@TullyApplebottom for the fact that she is a non-dom (due to British inheritance taxes), he had a green card until it became politically untenable and the time spent in California and expectation of a return there. So yes I do not think they see the UK as their base. And in a way whilst Teresa May's this about global citizens was narrow minded and rather stupid - it does describe the current tory party rather well. Very wealthy individuals, mainly interested in putting in place regulation for their financial backers (largely global i.e. American capital) before heading off for a cushy gig in the States, on repeat....and for some reason the electorate don't mind. Weird

Much deeper than this.... its his dept that is making the rules that he, others like him and his wife can then use to avoid tax.

Javid is no better.

anyway the last thing this country needs is tax cuts, we need public works spending - investments in health, transport, Hydrogen, road mtce, education.

1or 2 % of basic rate is a few pounds a month, it won't save us.

It’s in the ONS data from income before and after taxes and benefits. The bottom three quintiles see their income increased by the net effect of taxes while the top two quintiles see theirs decrease.

An average household on an average wage is a net recipient from the state in purely money-transfer terms.

And the point is not that he has money or that he is of South Asian origin but the fact that he comes across as not seeing the UK as his base and mainly coming across as though he is here for a bit to keep the wheels turning for the Tory financial backers and make Brexit happen for real i.e. mass deregulation and properly open up the British market to American multinationals to use the UK for wealth extraction to the detriment of the British public. Thats my problem with him

@AnaïsM it doesn't include all the other ways in which everyone, including poor people pay taxes. This is about i come tax etc not all forms of taxation particularly as poor people tend to use their cash to buy goods and services i.e. pay VAT, fuel tax, alcohol tax etc etc rather than say put their money into investments which is what rich people do.

In what way did he set the tax regime to hugely benefit his family? If you are referring to his wife's non-dom status, that has been available since the French Revolution. It is not something Sunak introduced or changed. The most recent changes were introduced in 2015 by George Osborne to significantly reduce the number of people able to claim non-dom status.

The media will have a field-day introducing “Jeremy Hunt, Conservative Party Leader” in interviews.

Yes, all taxes and benefits.

We don’t tax wealth in the UK, so claiming that changing its distribution would change the burden of taxes isn’t correct.

Yes, across all taxes, not only income tax.

How on earth can you say he doesn’t see the UK as his base?? HE IS BRITISH. Yes he studied abroad, met a woman and married her. Yes he spent time abroad. White British men do all of these things and more with no one questioning their commitment to the UK!
this makes me want to puke, I’m sorry

This is the top and bottom of it. No-one white would be viewed as not being properly British if they came back after walking and studying abroad with a non-British wife.

We even have people above saying he should be excluded because his parents were immigrants.

Because he's married to a woman who had officially declared that she wasn't permanently resident. What's so hard to understand? His wife and (presumably) children don't plan to stay, so how can he be committed?

And there we have it again. Be brown and marry a foreign wife and you aren’t committed to the UK.

But the left are definitely not all racists…