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Are Tory voters that stupid?

390 replies

StoneofDestiny · 07/07/2022 10:06

Listening to Tory after Tory coming on TV this morning and almost every one has mentioned Jeremy Corbyn as the fear factor in voting Labour at the next election. Seriously - is that the best argument they have got to steer the public disgust at this government's behaviour away from them?

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pointythings · 26/07/2022 12:36

The left is always held to higher standards than the right.

MarshaBradyo · 26/07/2022 12:39

there are so many threads on here that follow same lines

I know people think it’s higher standards it’s not, it’s just a majority view on mn which attempts to shut down opposition

Florenz · 26/07/2022 12:46

pointythings · 26/07/2022 12:36

The left is always held to higher standards than the right.

There are good reasons for this.

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/07/2022 13:28

What are the good reasons to hold the right to lower standards than the left @Florenz?Confused

Florenz · 26/07/2022 13:30

The left generally take the moral high ground, claim that they are "good" and the right are "evil".

The left tax people more, get more involved in peoples lives.

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/07/2022 13:58

Huh? Both left and right claim to occupy the moral high ground. In the Conservative PM debates, candidates have accused eachother of immoral policies.

Yes, the left do tend to advocate for higher tax as they believe it will benefit everyone. However, tax levels are high under the Tory government too and Sunak has said he won't cut them if he becomes PM. What do you mean get more involved in people's lives and what does any of it have to do with holding the right to a lower standard?
ConfusedConfusedConfused

ReneBumsWombats · 26/07/2022 14:03

Florenz · 26/07/2022 13:30

The left generally take the moral high ground, claim that they are "good" and the right are "evil".

The left tax people more, get more involved in peoples lives.

They both do this.

Florenz · 26/07/2022 14:47

ReneBumsWombats · 26/07/2022 14:03

They both do this.

I'm sure there are instances of Tories calling Labour "evil". But it's far more so the other way. "Wicked Tories and their Cruel Cuts" etc.

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/07/2022 14:52

That's Confirmation Bias at work @Florenz. I'm old enough to remember the "Evil" Tony Blair posters used by the Tory party.

Sartre · 26/07/2022 14:54

He isn’t even a Labour MP anymore and hasn’t been for years so what does Corbyn have to do with anything? They’re really
clutching.

SofiaSoFar · 26/07/2022 15:01

Labour are fucked, to put it bluntly.

They need rid of people like Rayner and Thornbury but they won't/can't do that so Conservatives will win again.

🤷🏻‍♀️

Sistanotcista · 26/07/2022 15:04

Florenz · 26/07/2022 13:30

The left generally take the moral high ground, claim that they are "good" and the right are "evil".

The left tax people more, get more involved in peoples lives.

I think it's somewhat unfair / untrue to say that the left tax people more when one considers the tax rises over the last ten years, all done under a Conservative government.

pointythings · 26/07/2022 15:08

Wicked Tories and their Cruel Cuts

But that's not the same thing. Calling Tory voters stupid is objectionable and rude. Describing the Tory government as wicked and their cuts as cruel is demonstrably accurate and correct. You need to differentiate between the people who rule us and the people who vote for them.

Darnley · 26/07/2022 15:30

Bit off topic, but I’m dying for someone to ask starmer to show them his cervix…….

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/07/2022 15:45

Maybe he and PM Johnson could both show us at the same time @Darnley.🙄 And I'm sure the Rt Hon Member for Bridgend has something to show too.🙈
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1501654/Boris-Johnson-GB-News-latest-Conservative-Party-speech-woke-cancel-culture-woman-cervix-vn/amp

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