Am I naive to think Boris PM knows something we don’t know?

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Exactly that! The man is being shamed, people are resigning left right and centre (no pun intended). Am I thinking Boris out of possible concern for the country knows something we don’t know and wonders if he is actually the best of a bad bunch?

or is he so egotistical, so consumed by his own worth that he actually hasn’t got a clue!

I’m trying to work out why he’s clinging on for dear life!

It’s way more embarrassing to profess to genuinely liking him than to admit being a troll, yes. Your levels of minimum expectations in political standards are touching the Earth’s core right now.

Yes, you are being extremely naive. Or possibly faux naif. Either way, Boris is toast, and about time too. If his leering, jeering supporters - yes, you amongst others Gullis, Ashfield and friends- have to take a hike too, so much the better. 👋

Your second option. Nothing puzzling about it.

@like2peas - they have created the drama all by themselves. They didn't need any help at all. Who knows, maybe they did it deliberately because they are clearly totally incompetent and have no sensible ideas.

This being reported on Twitter “told PM absolutely defiant and is not going to resign. Sources tell me he told Cabinet colleagues that it was a choice between summer focused on economic growth or chaos of a leadership contest- followed by massive pressure for general election.
Arguing that a lost election will mean a coalition that will lead to break up of Britain (sounds familiar from 2015!) and those around him think they will lose a couple more from Cabinet but not all.”

absolutely hilarious. I especially love the possible left wing coalition “breaking up of Britain” bit. Literally nothing has hurt the integrity and future existence of the UK more than Brexit - whose campaign was fronted by Boris Johnson.

shall we run a book on how long Princess Nutnuts will stick around when BJ is no longer PM?
3 months? xmas tops

I loathe BJ because of his endless, self serving lies. I disagree with his policies, but can't stand him because of his lack of integrity.

Why do you dislike Starmer and Raynor so much?

@SleeplessInEngland Sure, that's your opinion hun x

That was addressed to @like2peas

Rumours are they’ve already broken up. I find it hard to joke about though as there are kids involved and they still have to live with the reality of having Boris Johnson as their dad. 😢

He is the unflushable turd in the toilet.

It can be done though...

The Queen must be so relieved that he won't achieve his ambition. I seriously wonder how she manages to be polite to him when she has to meet him - if in fact she is. In her shoes I think I'd invoke old lady privileges and be as rude as hell.

He's dreamed of being PM forever and now sees it being taken away not because of policies but because his continual lying and evasive behaviour has caught up with him. His squalid affairs, blow jobs and dismissal of sexual assault as well as the Brexit fiasco - it wasn't oven ready have caught up with him. That's his legacy.

Hah...exactly!
I have always thought he isn't as intelligent as it's thought; just well polished.

@hayley037 The British public voted for Brexit. Many voted for Lib Dem based on them absolutely against tuition fees. They sold out to have a chunk of power. They're all the same in the end which is why I'm hating how Boris is being hung to dry. They're all messed up and greedy.

Doubt he was lying in terms of if he wins an outright majority, he has put out the parties position on that.

I just feel that if he has to go into coalition with the Lib Dems then we will rejoin because their position will be that. That isn't lying, it's what happens when you get coalition governments.

Coalition governments mean that whichever 2-3 parties are able to form a majority have to negotiate and come to a consensus. Hopefully the end of FPTP will also be part of their demands so we can end this tribal party system where you can get massive majorities with 35-40% of the vote.

“They’re all the same.” The hateful, nihilistic mantra of all johnson apologists.

It's been a long time since anyone apart from the Tories had a chance to prove is wrong. The Tories under Johnson are clueless and totally devoid of ideas apart from vapid attempts at appealing to a niche audience (think imperial measurements). Everyone has the right to their opinion but I have the right to vehemently disagree that Johnson has to be the best option. It's a race to the bottom with him in charge and fortunately more and more people agree.

If only Boris had any idea whatsoever about what to do about the economy and inflation ...

Haven’t RTFT so this might have been said already, but he is too arrogant to resign. Just like Donald Trump not accepting that he lost, Boris will not accept that he is the problem.

Either he will be dragged out kicking and screaming or he will still be there when the next general election occurs.

@user29 let us leave someone who I think has issues of low self-esteem out of it.

The only election he won was the Uxbridge one. He didn't win the General Election, because it wasn't an election to elect a Prime Minister.

Coalition government though. You can't legislate for what the junior partner will ditch in order to form a government. That's life. The good thing is we can have our say at the ballot box which many people did. My point is that people are still going on about tuition fees and the Lib Dems despite it being over a decade ago. The Brexit we have got is likely to have far longer and damaging consequences for this country than pretty much any political decision taken in the last 50 years, our living standards and various rights/protections will drop significantly. Boris and the leave campaign seem to be immune from any criticism over from large areas of society. I just find it bizarre.

On your point about them 'being all the same'. If you think that why are you posting on a politics thread, you shouldn't even vote if you feel that way, you are massively uninformed with that line of thinking. The problem is our democracy and FPTP system which allows these types of people into power.

I feel sorry for all his children.

Imagine what it must have been like for his children by his first marriage to open the papers and read about the blow job. Let alone to see all the assessments of their father's character that are being published today.

Very unlikely that he ‘knows something’!

Why would he need to stay even if he did?! He’s not known for competency in matters of high importance, let’s face it.

Yes, I must admit that I don't have much patience when people still talk about something that happened a decade ago. Some people still go on about Labour and the winter of discontent and that was over 40 years ago! I also don't have much patience for the 'they're all the same" as I feel like that is largely borne out of disinterest in politics and it's an easy get out rather than having to bother to take any interest and consider what the alternatives really are.

The Tories don't mind that attitude because they are the status quo and will continue to remain in power by default and it actually benefits them to have a general atmosphere of disinterest in politics. The opposition do have to work harder to get into power and for me, I don't see any alternative to some kind of power share or agreement between the opposition parties. Anything but more years of Tory shite.