Am I naive to think Boris PM knows something we don’t know?

[BiFoldChampion]

Exactly that! The man is being shamed, people are resigning left right and centre (no pun intended). Am I thinking Boris out of possible concern for the country knows something we don’t know and wonders if he is actually the best of a bad bunch?

or is he so egotistical, so consumed by his own worth that he actually hasn’t got a clue!

I’m trying to work out why he’s clinging on for dear life!

Tories will want him gone by summer recess so they can have a new leader in place by the Autumn.

Well it would save being under a misapprehension and give you more insight and knowledge of the situation

He’s clinging on because he’s prime minister, was voted in and doesn’t feel he’s personally done anything wrong, so he won’t be forced to quit. Honestly there is no conspiracy. Plenty people who are a bit shit at their job don’t want to quit or be forced out.

He’s not the only one though is he that’s got us into this mess. Sunak and Javid colluded with him. Now they shouldn’t be hailed as heroes because they have quit.

If anything is coming - covid, Russia, climate issues etc then we definitely want him gone. He’s hopeless. The worst possible leader for anything important.

@BiFoldChampion really, really,really after watching him for the last 3 years do you think Johnson is holding on out of a sense of responsibility to serving the public interests? Ha ha ha ha ha ha

No, Johnson's a power hungry egotistical twat just like Donald Trump who also had to be pulled by his fingernails from the seat of power (with similar delusions that he was making the country great again!)

What also concerns me is for example my daughters read the week magazine a couple of months back there was a headline along the lines of ‘is Boris a liar?’

we need to encourage our children to see themselves as future politicians and leaders of our country. And not think it’s only liars get these jobs.

what’s changed since a few weeks back for Sunak and Javid? The Pincher matter?! I’m sorry but we can’t trust any of these people. In it for their own gain.

His wife won’t let him quit!

He believes this is his rightful position and he is so arrogant that not only does he believe he was born to do this job but he looks around him and thinks that no one else can do the job in quite the same way as him. People like him lack any self awareness because he's been molly-coddled his entire life. Even his daft father couldnt help himself and came out gushing in defence of him this week - ever the opportunist. In no other environment would that be acceptable but because the Prime Minister and his family have contacts in high places they'll publish the quote.

He also believes his own myth and has been sucked into his own cult of personality. He's the only Prime Minister in history who has allowed himself to be refered to by his "first name" (despite his actual first name being Alexander) to make him sound like your friend, ally or your neighbour from down the road. Make no mistake, this man is no friend of yours.

Wrong!
Boris is hard left on this matter-he wants to print more money to stabilize the economy.
Sunak-wants to modernize-digitize-invest in tech and encourage people to work and stand on their own feet.

5 ministers down since he joined the Liaison Committee.

If he's a genius, then he's hiding it incredibly well. There's simply no sign of it. He's not strategic, he has no vision, no tactical nous, he's not funny, sharp or quick on his feet, he's not creative or able to offer smart ideas, he's no charismatic speaker, has no leadership qualities and he looks like he slept in a skip to boot. He has literally no discernible qualities.

Well as they were fine with all the sleaze and corruption and ineptitude up until this week, I think it's clear to everyone that they've only resigned because it's now personally advantageous to them to see him go. I think everyone gets that.

This will be a Thatcher situation, Mr Johnson will have to be physically removed from number 10 because as it stands he's not going anywhere.

Totally!

I’m equally perplexed by the number of women who seem to fall for his “charm’ (for want of another word?

I can’t get past thinking he’d be the person mentally undressing you and making your skin crawl.

They are part of a political party. When Johnson was popular they backed him (despite some probably having reservations about his personal conduct) now they know they are losing public confidence from bi-election defeats they are acting in the interests of the party/ their own jobs. They probably are sick of having to stand & support him over the weekly scandals he seems to be presiding over!

It's about time we had some serious politicians at the helm instead of a showman to inspire your daughters that some politicians have integrity - they are not all as personally compromised as Johnson & the motley crew he has selected as his Government.

They didn’t vote him out a few weeks ago!
He survived the vote of no confidence!

32 have resigned.
If this was a large organization all this would be seen as ' being managed out '
Due to how parliament works, it's very difficult to remove a PM it seems.
He is starting to lose his rag a bit now about the Pincher allegations ' amnesia' he suffered from.
He clearly didn't know much about that (so he says.)

You hit the nail on the head with this

"or is he so egotistical, so consumed by his own worth that he actually hasn’t got a clue!"

He can't (or won't ) accept he has done anything wrong. He believes his mandate is supported by the 14m who voted Tory and it his right to deliver that.

Man's a fuckwit.

@Hrpuffnstuff1

Boris is hard left on this matter-he wants to print more money to stabilize the economy.

would that work? Wouldn’t that weaken the pound at a time of rising inflation in US that will increase our inflation so we would just pay higher prices but get less value ?

It bemuses me that intelligent people like Marina Wheeler stayed with him for so long.

It probably bemuses her too now! I'm sure she looks back and says 'what the feck was I doing?'

But when romantic feelings are involved we can make very foolish decisions. I know I have. Never shagged a Tory though, grateful to say.

Right, so Boris Johnson wants to borrow borrow and Sunak wants austerity and tax cuts ? Hence his ' hard choices' line ( of something similar ? )
I thought BJ wanted tax cuts though ?
What will the new chancellor want ?

I heard earlier he told a colleague it would take a water cannon to get him out of Number 10.

I'd quite like to see that 😃

Hubris and Nemesis, (Proverbs 16.18).

@EntertainingandFactual
Yes, that's the whole point. They want to do another vote of no confidence. Which means changing Conservative party rules as their party policies don't allowed for another vote this soon.

But people on this thread think it means a change in law to allow new votes if they don't like the result. it isn't a change of law. Has nothing to do with the law. It will be a change in the conservative party's policies to allow them another vote this soon.