Abortion is fine but euthanasia isn't??

[Mommabear20]

With all the discussion on abortion at the moment, and the clear view from the majority is people that they're a good thing, AIBU to wonder why we still don't allow for legal euthanasia of terminally ill people in this country (England)?

My personal view on abortion is that is a terrible practise that makes me terrible sad to think about and a resource I would never use, BUT that it should be legal for woman whose views differ to mine, to allow them to make their own decisions about their bodies and lives.

It baffles me then, to think that while we are fighting for woman's rights on this subject, that we aren't also fighting for the rights of every person who is or will suffer terribly as a result of terminal illnesses, not to mention the trauma for their families who have to watch them deteriorate in health knowing that it's only going to get worse and often times won't get to be there with them at the end.

Would you be in agreement to make euthanasia legal?

If someone wants to die let them I think. We keep humans alive in conditions it’s seen cruel to keep animals in.

Absolutely it should be legal.

We don't let animals suffer, and they can't consent. Adults can consent, and yet we don't give them the option.

Euthanasia should absolutely be legal. Something like 80% of people support it.

For me there is a massive difference between abortion and euthanasia. I'm not averse to euthanasia but I would want very strict guidelines around it.

I had to watch my father and step father waste away to cancer over a protracted period of time and the sad thing is my lasting memories of both men is when they were at their worst.

It angered me then and even more so now that they never had the option to end their suffering if they chose too.

''It baffles me then, to think that while we are fighting for woman's rights on this subject, that we aren't also fighting for the rights of every person who is or will suffer terribly as a result of terminal illnesses''

Who's ''we''? Are you a member of any of the organisations fighting for right to die OP?

Here's one:

www.dignityindying.org.uk/

For me, they aren’t even in the same realm.
But yes. I do think euthanasia should be legal.
We don’t allow animals to suffer the way we allow human beings with terminal illnesses suffer. It’s barbaric, and people should be allowed to die with dignity if that’s what they want.

Absolutely euthanasia should be legal. My Nan (with Alzheimer's) was bedridden for the last 7 weeks of her life after an operation to drain a bleed on her brain following a fall. She didn't know where she was, and every day would repeatedly say "I just want to go home. I don't want to do this anymore". We wouldn't have made an animal wake up every day to that, there was no quality of life. It was cruel.

Not to mention the expense for the NHS. Morphine, adjustable bed, inflatable mattress, carers 4x a day, daily visits from doctors and nurses from the palliative care team. Just to prolong her misery.

Noone should be forced to go through that, we should be able to choose euthanasia.

But why then do we act as though suicide is still always awful/ dreadful/ tragic and to be avoided.

Suicide is seen as preventable with any number of charities set up to prevent it and to raise awareness and it's very common that people blaming mental health services.
Why?
Why not just say " ok well his life was pretty miserable he euthanized himself" some times I've heard of a suicide I might think "yeah well they had addiction issues, a shitty life poor personality, medical problems psychiatric problems etc etc I wouldn't want that life, off you pop.
Why is it treated so differently by us all, by the media, by communities?
Just the shock of it?
Is that the only difference between it and eothanasia?

Op I don't know, I think abortion, euthanasia and suicide are all aspects of the same issue-
Either life really really matters in all it's forms?

Or it doesn't matter
so crack on with ending your own life or life within your own body, with no blame no limits no moral questioning.

We had to have our dear 16 year old dog put to sleep on Monday. It was so peaceful and painless... my unexpected immediate reaction was outrage at the way my DHs parents had been unable to have a similar merciful release.

It is a very different matter to abortion, of course, I'm not sure it's particularly useful to link the two in any discussion. Except that it's about bodily autonomy.

I am pro-choice, I am also pro-euthanasia BUT the rules and checks need to be very well thought out. I would be worried about people being bullied into it by nefarious family members wanting their inheritance or not wanting to pay care costs and other such horrible possibilities.

I support assisted death in theory, though I worry that a small minority would abuse it for financial gain.

@WindowsSmindows I suppose the difference in views between suicide and euthanasia is the type of situation you mentioned where someone is miserable, addicted to drugs etc there are other possible treatment/support options. Whereas when people are talking about euthanasia it's when someone is never going to get better or have a decent quality of life. As you mention suicide could be preventable but prolonged suffering due to old age/dementia/terminal cancer are unfortunately not.

There is a debate coming up shortly (4 July). You can contact your MP about this if you wish to ask them to consider your views.
committees.parliament.uk/committee/326/petitions-committee/news/171776/assisted-dying-to-be-debated-by-mps/

I want to see euthanasia legalised.

You’re absolutely right.

Suicide, in many, many cases, is very different to euthanasia.

There's a big difference between a 19 year old that's going through a shit time, but with the right support can get through it, and go on to live a life that is generally happy, and someone with a terminal illness that is suffering chronic, debilitating pain, and will never be able to move on from it.

Abortion control removes women's bodily autonomy. Euthanasia removes the patient's bodily autonomy. They both need to be discussed, but they are not the same.

Assisted dying is not euthanasia. Like abortion, it is related to thethe individual's right to body autonomy.

Because suicide due to mental health issues is treatable and therefore the suicide is not necessary with the right treatment.

You could say that untreated diabetes leads to an awful life, so let them die?

Sorry I think your comment is very unenlightened. Many people are suicidal at times, come through it and live a wonderful life.

Euthanasia, I completely agree with, it should be legalised.

I think the majority of people do support euthanasia under strict guidelines.

Also regarding abortion, never say never. I wouldn’t like to have an abortion but I would have one if medically necessary.

I'm pro-choice and I'm also pro-euthanasia. I was also against making organ donation a matter of opting out. I don't think that the default position should be that the body belongs to the state and for us to legislate as though it did - beyond obvious caveats around criminality. I don't think you'll find me to be a hypocrite on the matter but would consider alternative points of view.

we aren't also fighting for the rights of every person who is or will suffer terribly as a result of terminal illnesses

Plenty of people are actually, join them if you want. Yes it should be legal under strict circumstances.

I 100% support the dying with dignity campaign and believe euthanasia should be an option for anyone who decides on it.

I don't want to be incapacitated by illness towards the end of my life.

If I get the chance to become elderly I want to leave on my terms.

I don't really understand why you've tagged your concern about something as sensitive as right to euthanise onto a post saying abortion is a ''terrible practice'' OP.

I don't know anyone at all who opposes the idea of euthanasia/assisted dying.

I sadly know a few people who are anti abortion (for others).