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Racist message in group chat WWYD?

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Thebeastofsleep · 27/06/2022 20:00

DH, not me. Is in a group chat for an up coming stag group. DH only knows he stag and no other attendees/ group members. One group member has been posting 'banter' in the chat - memes, videos etc. Most of these have been fairly normal fodder, some slightly offensive. No one in the group has reciprocated/ commented on these but he keeps doing it. Stag has commented that its a group to plan the stag do, not a jokes thread and tried to get it back on track. Now the same person has posted an overtly racist video. Its shocking. DH is absolutely outraged.

WWYD:

  1. comment that the video is completely in appropriate and leave the group and not attend the stag do.
  2. comment that the video is completely inappropriate and leave group but still attend the do.
  3. comment as above but stay in the group and attend.
  4. say nothing, leave the group.
  5. say nothing, act like it didn't happen.

DH is erring on 1 at the moment but he has no idea who this person is in relation to the stag/ rest of the group other than he isn't the best man.

OP posts:
SurfBox · 29/06/2022 13:41

It could be seen as humour though albeitn pitch black humour. It's hard to say without seeing the vid, my parents would be offended and say Southpark gags are racist/homophobic etc and not humour when others would disagree.

voldr · 29/06/2022 13:54

Just because it "can be seen as humor" doesn't mean it's not racist. No matter how much you try to defend it.

And South Park has fuck all to do with anything, not sure why you keep bringing it up like it proves anything.

SurfBox · 29/06/2022 16:23

Just because it "can be seen as humor" doesn't mean it's not racist. No matter how much you try to defend it

i didn't say that but, I meant racist/homophobic etc jokes can be laughed at/humorous yet it doesn't necessarily make those who do so racists or homophobic.

And South Park has fuck all to do with anything, not sure why you keep bringing it up like it proves anything

Have you actually seen southpark? It has lots of dark and toilet humour akin to what is described by op-there is a big market for it whether we like it or not.

beautyisthefaceisee · 29/06/2022 17:32

Sleepingsatellite1 · 28/06/2022 20:44

You literally called people out for doing what you were doing, 🙄

As for what you think of me based on bugger all, then yes ‘Whatever’ would be a good summation of that.

No, I didn't!

I suggested that the numerous posts debating white privilege might want to star their own thread. Sorry boss.

beautyisthefaceisee · 29/06/2022 17:34

wellhelloitsme · 29/06/2022 11:09

And obviously where I say joke I mean 'joke' as I don't personally believe joke is an appropriate description of a video about people being shot, especially using slurs against them.

Yes, except thats not what the video was.

wellhelloitsme · 29/06/2022 17:40

@beautyisthefaceisee

I'm genuinely asking this because I don't understand what you've just said.

I described it as "a video about people being shot, especially using slurs against them."

How is the above not the below, as described by OP?

The video is a collection of video clips/ images of black people with a song over the top in an American deep south style (don't know the name of the style, heavy with banjo) about shooting [insert racist term].

beautyisthefaceisee · 29/06/2022 20:16

wellhelloitsme · 29/06/2022 17:40

@beautyisthefaceisee

I'm genuinely asking this because I don't understand what you've just said.

I described it as "a video about people being shot, especially using slurs against them."

How is the above not the below, as described by OP?

The video is a collection of video clips/ images of black people with a song over the top in an American deep south style (don't know the name of the style, heavy with banjo) about shooting [insert racist term].

Song about being shot (commoni n rap music).

Video about/of people being shot.

Two different things (not that im excusing it, but this thread has grown arms and legs.)

Sleepingsatellite1 · 29/06/2022 20:23

beautyisthefaceisee · 29/06/2022 17:32

No, I didn't!

I suggested that the numerous posts debating white privilege might want to star their own thread. Sorry boss.

You are hilariously hypocritical! Now boss says ‘Ssh’.

beautyisthefaceisee · 29/06/2022 20:26

Sleepingsatellite1 · 29/06/2022 20:23

You are hilariously hypocritical! Now boss says ‘Ssh’.

Am i though? for suggesting a topic takes another thread instead of diluting this one? Is that hilarious? Is your life that empty? have a day off, you're boring.

Sleepingsatellite1 · 29/06/2022 20:30

beautyisthefaceisee · 29/06/2022 20:26

Am i though? for suggesting a topic takes another thread instead of diluting this one? Is that hilarious? Is your life that empty? have a day off, you're boring.

Yes you are and yeah you’re a regular laugh riot 🙄

Not as empty as the person that has been on here for hours.. 😬

Sleepingsatellite1 · 29/06/2022 20:33

Anyway more importantly well done to your husband OP, he did the right thing and in turn encouraged others to do so to, not everyone has the courage of their convictions and it’s good to hear.

Meraas · 29/06/2022 20:39

@beautyisthefaceisee

Song about being shot (commoni n rap music).

Video about/of people being shot.

Two different things (not that im excusing it, but this thread has grown arms and legs.)

Are you being deliberately obtuse? It’s a video about white Americans in the deep south shooting black people.

How dare you compare that to rap?

Your agenda is very clear and has been from the start. Shame on you.

beautyisthefaceisee · 29/06/2022 20:42

Meraas · 29/06/2022 20:39

@beautyisthefaceisee

Song about being shot (commoni n rap music).

Video about/of people being shot.

Two different things (not that im excusing it, but this thread has grown arms and legs.)

Are you being deliberately obtuse? It’s a video about white Americans in the deep south shooting black people.

How dare you compare that to rap?

Your agenda is very clear and has been from the start. Shame on you.

Sorry, have you seen the video?

My understanding was it was a song about shooting "n".

Obviously totally abhorrent, disgraceful, no place for it in society, but many PPs have claimed it was someone shooting a black person which changes the debate. If it was my husband he wouldnt be going to the wedding but it helps if we stick to the facts to have an honest discussion.

Re rap? Are you aware of the words they use? the racist, homophobic, misogynistic slurs?

Btw - what is my agenda? I'm intrigued to know. I'm assuming you're going to tell me I'm racist, which is fascinating as all I actually said was let's not dilute the fact the mans a racist wanker with misinterpretations of whats in the video.

beautyisthefaceisee · 29/06/2022 20:42

Sleepingsatellite1 · 29/06/2022 20:30

Yes you are and yeah you’re a regular laugh riot 🙄

Not as empty as the person that has been on here for hours.. 😬

Are you OK? LIke, genuinely? Your posts are quite unhinged.

Sleepingsatellite1 · 29/06/2022 20:43

beautyisthefaceisee · 29/06/2022 20:42

Are you OK? LIke, genuinely? Your posts are quite unhinged.

Nice try 😆

beautyisthefaceisee · 29/06/2022 20:45

Sleepingsatellite1 · 29/06/2022 20:43

Nice try 😆

I pray for the day MN brings in a feautre where you can block posters and not have to see their strange drivel.

Meraas · 29/06/2022 20:45

I don’t need to see the video, OP has described it and it’s racist as fuck.

Your agenda is to deny racism.

So you acknowledge the man is racist but won’t acknowledge the video is racist? Are you confused or something?

beautyisthefaceisee · 29/06/2022 20:47

Meraas · 29/06/2022 20:45

I don’t need to see the video, OP has described it and it’s racist as fuck.

Your agenda is to deny racism.

So you acknowledge the man is racist but won’t acknowledge the video is racist? Are you confused or something?

I never actually said the video wasn't racist. Of course it bloody is.

I said it wasn't of a man BEING shot as PP claimed. Because it isn't.

And pretending that music isn't also racist is actually detrimental to your cause, isn't it.....? Casual racism is the biggest problem in our society! Children singing rap songs with homophobic and racist lyrics, racism in media - all of these things have led to wankers like that being able to post that and think its OK. You can choose to believe its one evil man, but its a whole problem.

You have me completely wrong. We are on the same side.

Sleepingsatellite1 · 29/06/2022 20:47

beautyisthefaceisee · 29/06/2022 20:45

I pray for the day MN brings in a feautre where you can block posters and not have to see their strange drivel.

There’s a option for you to stop replying with gas lighting drivel though isn’t there?

beautyisthefaceisee · 29/06/2022 20:47

Sleepingsatellite1 · 29/06/2022 20:47

There’s a option for you to stop replying with gas lighting drivel though isn’t there?

There is, but last time I tried to stop people derailing you told me off, so if you cant beat em....

wellhelloitsme · 29/06/2022 20:48

@beautyisthefaceisee

Here is the OP's description:

The video is a collection of video clips/ images of black people with a song over the top in an American deep south style (don't know the name of the style, heavy with banjo) about shooting [insert racist term].

So people haven't said it's a video of a black person being shot.

For example, I said that OP describes a video where people are singing about shooting black people. Not that it showed anyone doing so.

It's really weird that you're trying to argue that anything else has been claimed.

Your prerogative I suppose, I just don't understand your motivation.

wellhelloitsme · 29/06/2022 20:50

@beautyisthefaceisee

I said it wasn't of a man BEING shot as PP claimed. Because it isn't.

Who said it was though?

Sleepingsatellite1 · 29/06/2022 20:50

beautyisthefaceisee · 29/06/2022 20:47

There is, but last time I tried to stop people derailing you told me off, so if you cant beat em....

Oh Jaysus, let’s just leave it here.

beautyisthefaceisee · 29/06/2022 20:51

wellhelloitsme · 29/06/2022 20:48

@beautyisthefaceisee

Here is the OP's description:

The video is a collection of video clips/ images of black people with a song over the top in an American deep south style (don't know the name of the style, heavy with banjo) about shooting [insert racist term].

So people haven't said it's a video of a black person being shot.

For example, I said that OP describes a video where people are singing about shooting black people. Not that it showed anyone doing so.

It's really weird that you're trying to argue that anything else has been claimed.

Your prerogative I suppose, I just don't understand your motivation.

You could try reading the thread. That would be an idea.

My motivation is to stick to the facts, consider all the many things that lead to racism, instead of thinking booting one man out of a whatsapp group is done and we can all sleep easy.

beautyisthefaceisee · 29/06/2022 20:51

Sleepingsatellite1 · 29/06/2022 20:50

Oh Jaysus, let’s just leave it here.

I did suggest that several posts ago.