To think many vegetarians and vegans are self entitled?

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I know this is purely anecdotal evidence but of all the people I know or have met who are vegetarian or vegan (V/V for short) only about 1% were not judgement about other people's food choices.

Don't get me wrong I think business and friends/family should make some allowances for other's life style choices but the way many V/V treat others is just horrendous.

Point in case went to a local volunteer run food bank the other day and the lady in front of me had a melt down because there was meat in her food parcel. The organiser politely said why not give it to friends or family members instead but she the woman was having none of it and kept going off on one about how inconsiderate the organiser was.

I just couldn't believe the level of ingratitude this woman displayed considering these volunteers play such a vital role in the community.

Is my bias showing by feeling this way?

Sweeping generalisation much? 😑

She’s a vegetarian. She doesn’t want meat in her parcel. That’s fair enough.

Can you explain what you mean by "going off on one"? I would also really consider that the behaviour of someone who has had to resort to a FOOD BANK to feed themselves, well surely you can see why those people may not always be on their best behaviour or may be emotional etc, they must be under so much stress.

Anyway I think YABU, we are a vegetarian family and I never expect anyone to cater for us specifically anywhere I go at all. In general most people who know we are vegetarian do make some effort to ensure there is something we can eat if we are with them for a meal, which we are very appreciative of. However I don't think anything of it if there isn't, we often bring our own food to things or at least for DD if we think there might not be anything suitable for her.

If someone goes to a food bank for help because they don’t have the money for food I’d say it’s shockingly insensitive to give them food they can’t eat and then suggest they give it away if they don’t want it.

It’s just another belief system, I mean, would you give pork chops to a Jew? Probably an overreaction from her but just take it back, bit condescending to suggest they give it to a friend. Maybe keep a vegetarian food parcel handy in future?

What does "self-entitled" mean? Is is different to being entitled?

You are, obviously, being judgemental and ridiculous.

The woman at the food bank might not have been expressing herself properly, but if you try to give people food they can't eat and suggest it's reasonable that they give it away instead of being given food they can eat then you run the risk of upsetting people.

Would you think a Jewish family should be expected to take a food parcel with pork in it and just give the pork away?

YABVU. The food banks I used to refer people to always asked about dietary requirements and allergies. It's just common sense. They deserve to have their dietary requirements/religious beliefs and needs respected and they didn't want to waste an item by giving it to someone who can't use it.

when my vegan sister and brother in law come to visit for the afternoon I am expected to have both soy and oat milk so they can have a coffee. Invariably three quarters of each carton goes to waste and when I ask them to take it with them to avoid food waste I get told to keep it and I can have it in my tea- they know I drink dairy and (personal beliefs are about supporting local and reducing food miles-plus I don’t like the stuff)
if they can’t have their preferred milks it results in sulks and complaining that I am not supporting their lifestyles (which I am happy to do provided they actually use the stuff and take it with them)
so yes, I know at least two that are entitled pita

One person = most of the billions of vegetarians and vegans in the world is it?

Why should a vegetarian be grateful for meat just because they are poor?

So poor people should eat what they are given, no matter what?

They would be entitled PITA if they weren't vegan too. That's their personalities, not their veganism.

This is a really small organization who are stretched to the limit as it is.

Every parcel comes with a fabulous array of fresh fruit and veg so the woman won't be going hungry plus she was telling me last week she has family members who aren't fully veggie (sorry for the drip feed)

It was the way in which she was talking to the volunteers as if they'd messed up her takeaway order that I find really annoying.

I know those of us who need help with food are under immense pressure so aren't always at our best but this just smacked of entitlement which I can't stand

She was unreasonable to “go off on one” but I think it’s unreasonable to expect her to be happy with meat in her box.
my dp and ds are veggies and have never acted entitled in any way. I think you’re massively entitled

Was this woman kicking off or just asking for a parcel without meat? It's a bit shit to advise her to give the meat to someone else - she needs the food, that's why she is there! Giving away some of the food parcel would be awful when you desperately need food.

'Self entitled'

the VV bashing is tedious. After 33 years I'm over people like you.

I’m not a vegan or a vegetarian but your post is a massive generalisation.

Yes, some will want to lecture “meat eaters” about their choices. I don’t see how that differs from the ardent meat eaters who seem to view vegans as some kind of existential threat to their very existence and are quite keen to tell them.

Sounds like you can't stand your sister and BIL. Maybe stop inviting them over, it's a win win situation as you won't waste any vegan milk and you don't have to interact with the entitled pitas!

Or, you could just ask them to bring their own supply of vegan milk instead.

Nonsense.

Every food bank I know accommodates vegetarian diets. I'm not so confident about vegan.

They also help with managing allergies, halal needs and celiac disease.

No one should have to be grateful to recieve something that goes against their values. It's 2022, vegetarian food options, vegan, halal, etc., should be expected, then they can either say whether they can or can't meet the needs of those groups.

^ This

By the way the organisers this isn't the only instance users of the food bank are encouraged to share food that they don't particularly like from the parcels with others that they know this is about helping others and reducing food waste

Some vegans are like the Jehovah’s witnesses for food. Others are okay and bring their own substitutes

Fruit and veg aren't a substitute for a protein source. Not fully vegetarian might mean that they occasionally eat fish, or they don't check for gelatine in food, not that they'll happily eat meat.

Is it really so difficult to have some vegetarian/vegan subs for meat products?

Is my bias showing by feeling this way?

No but your lack of understanding and compassion is. Hth.