To be shocked that in the 21st century there's still a staggering amount of women who rely entirely on their husbands?

[EllieRosesMammy]

I see it far too often on MN, women saying their husbands have been cheating on them for years or treating them absolutely terribly, but saying they can't leave because they are entirely financially dependent on their husbands.

Is it just me who finds this mad in 2022? Or is it still normal for men to be 100% the provider of the household?

I just couldn't imagine being stuck in a rubbish situation simply because of money

I am absolutely in no way slating stay at home mums, or house wives here either. I just believe all women should be self sufficient enough that if they're in a bad situation they can walk away

Well, if it's so obvious why do so many young women think that men earn more than them at every stage in life, when women actually earn more for the majority of their working years?

Not the majority actually, but around half.

I don't know. I have a friend who is very very unhappy in her marriage. Her husband basically leaves her with the kids and he carries on like his living a bachelor life and his emotionally abusive.I told her many times to leave him, she tells me that she cannot as he financially supports her and she relies on him for money (but.... she recently told me that her mum is going to gift her 10,000 for her put a deposit for a house...). Don't know whether it's just an excuse...

A sexist patriarchy where women earn more than men right up until the stage where they go permanently part time and leave the hard graft to the man? 😂

Deluded pretend feminists?

Maybe?!And pretend academics as apparently those that find any evidence to support the idea is a shit a academic anyway 🤷🏼‍♀️

Read this thread.

Opening post is a bit confusing as OP has said women 'prefer a female boss' when she actually clearly means a male boss.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3080265-Women-prefer-working-for-male-bosses

@TruthHertz

We're using mumsnet threads as an evidence base now?

Cause its not clearly hugely sexust either?

Maybe, like, have a look and there might just be some studies posted within. 😉 (which you'll no doubt disregard if they don't fit your agenda).

The debate about the gender pay gap is multi faceted.

One issue is the motherhood penalty- we know this has an impact. The biggest reason is women returning to work part time. This again isn't as straightforward as it seems.... why do more women work part time?
-choice

-partner earns more ( when we look at earnings when reporting the gender pay gap we look at like for like with regard ages but in many relationships men are older and therefore more established in their career )

• societal expectations around caring responsibilities.

• women working in more family friendly sectors . We know that women consider the family friendliness of a sector and organisation even before they have children. Men don't list this as a reason for a particular career choice

The research on this was done by a team of data analysts looking at the career choices of university graduates with the lead researcher being male before I get accused of bias again.

@TruthHertz

The studies say people prefer a male boss? And think men are better?

Yes

I would expect that to be the case.

Unless the studies acknowledge the inherent sexism in these beliefs they're useless

Who cares what feminists think anyway. They're like what 7% of UK women nowadays anyway. It used to mean something but now it generally means a big old McCains chip on the shoulder and a unequivocal dislike of men.

I gave up my career to be a SAHM.
I took a 5 year career break which was offered by my then employer and my husband thought it was a wonderful idea.

It was difficult at times as money was tight, ( interest rates went through the roof and many folk were in negative equity... might be sounding familiar now!)
We managed and when our children went to school I decided to not return to the City as wrap around care was not available then, so I took a lower paid but term time job to bring more money in.

My husband retired on a great pension a couple of years ago and a year later he suggested I resigned so that we could enjoy ourselves together. He was feeling lonely.
So I did.
So yes, I'm totally supported by my husband as I don't get a pension until I'm 60. ( two years time)

No regrets. No acrimony. No guilt.

@TruthHertz

Given how annoyed some folk are on this thread, I'd say quite a few care what feminists think..

They're fully convinced having an opposing view is a personal affront and demanding others do as they say

Ada Lovelace was just a secretary now?

I hope you never have daughters.

@TruthHertz

Have you ever worked with women or men?

I don't know if it's testosterone related or due to men's evolutionary tendency towards conflict, but they don't seem to do the petty passive aggressive thing so many women do. They seem to be much better able to agree to disagree and move on without drama.

When you have half a million women surveyed and categorically preferring male bosses you know something is up.

I doubt he ever leaves his bedroom.

Never. Only animals.

TruthHertz
Hmmm it's a shame that study didn't give any insight into why more people stated they prefer a male boss.
I'd be interested in that and I think it would be interesting to break down into sectors.

The report did state that most people didn't have a preference - which clearly isn't a snappy headline!! and that younger people were more likely to fall into that category with older people preferring a male boss.
That would be interesting to unpick .....

I actually work with builders mainly, and they're a hell of a lot easier to work with than my 80% female team in last job, despite the stereotypes.

Lol. Let the mumsnet feminist bingo begin. 😂

(disagrees with me ergo must be a man)

How long before somebody uses the term 'the menz' I wonder.

Or maybe they just realise that there are lots of women that love to snipe, bicker and hold petty grudges like in this thread.

You don't like women very much do you?

@TruthHertz

Are you one of those women that says things like God, women are such bitches

Men are so much easier to get on with

(Excluding themselves from the bitchy, hard to get on with camp, natch)

This is getting silly now. I dont think men colloborate and agree to disagree at a higher rate than women. When they disagree its more likely to end in actual agression than passive agression. All those pub brawls, hooligans and wars even.