To be totally gutted for American women?

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The US Supreme Court has reversed the Roe v Wade ruling. Millions of American women have lost their right to make decisions about what happens to their own bodies.

I have never had an abortion and personally, I'm not sure if I ever could, but I have always been passionately of the view that individual women should be able to make that choice for themselves. It's awful that this right has been removed for so many.

It will have a detrimental impact of every state that votes to outlaw abortion.

No female student will want to attend a university in a state that bans it. No sane woman will want to live in a state that bans it unless they are close to a border or have supportive family in a liberal state nearby.

Companies will move to liberal states to ensure their staff have access to abortion services.

I honestly never thought I'd see Roe vs Wade overturned. The US goes back to the dark ages. 🙁

I hope to god this crap doesn't cross the pond!
We have enough prolifers at clinics and campaigning as it is!

The right to bear arms was written into the constitution but the right to an abortion was not.

This was a LEGAL decision therefore the decision now returns to the 50 states. The USA is a big as Western and Eastern Europe combined. Within Europe there are a range of laws regarding abortion depending on the country. Many states already passed law so that if Roe was ever revoked at the FEDERAL level that abortion would be legal in their STATE.

The politicians of each state Congress can now write law depending on the will of the people in their state.

Members of Congress at the Federal level can also write law and pass it making it Federal law.

Agree.

Don't want an abortion? Don't have one. But don't take away the choice for others.

I am so fucking angry. Our country may be shit in so many ways, but at least I can get an abortion should I need one. And I did. Not having that availability would have tied me to a man who was an emotionally abusive gaslighting arsehole for at least the next 18 years.

This is a scary scary day for women. Unbelievable this has happened.

They're there benefiting from it, even the ones who don't agree with it benefit from it simply by being men. The majority keep quiet because when you're used to privilege, equality feels like oppression.

YADNBU

it’s shocking that womens rights are being eroded and going backwards by 50+ years

nobody is forced to have an abortion, if someone doesn’t believe it it they don’t have to have one. But they (should) have no right to stop anyone else having one.

You know, when I said this was nothing to do with trans issues, I may have misspoke.

A big round of applause to those self-proclaimed feminists who voted for Trump on a ‘at least he knows what a woman is’ basis, despite the warnings that this was exactly where his election or re-election might lead.

Some of them presumably didn’t believe Roe would really be overturned, but I’ve had ‘feminists’ on this site tell me that this was a price worth paying to ensure no further expansion of transgender rights. I hope you still feel like it was the right decision.

Absolutely horrendous. Abortion won't and will never go away, only safe abortion.
I'm appalled by this and my heart goes out to all the women and girls in the US.
I hope people in states where safe abortion is allowed pull together to provide help to those who need it.
If I lived there, I'd be driving those women across state lines myself if they needed and wanted an abortion and making sure they had the funds they needed for somewhere safe to stay to recover.

It really feels like we're going backwards. Its awful.

So awful.

I read just the other day (I had no idea) that in Malta abortion is not allowed under any circumstance. There is a woman currently there (from the US I believe) who is pregnant but the baby cannot survive, the umbilical cord is protruding through her cervix and the placenta has separated from her uterus - but she is not allowed an abortion unless she is so ill she could die or the baby's heart beat stops. She is just left there suffering, knowing she has lost her baby and is being put at risk herself.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-61898437

They haven't lost their rights to abortions though. They've lost their rights to SAFE abortions. Abortions will still happen and women will risk their lives to have one.

Disgusting.

They won't though because, according the majority of the dicks who support anti-choice laws, contraception encourages promiscuity. Banning abortion and limiting access to contraception not only keeps women in their place by keeping them at the mercy of pregnancy, it also serves as a handy red letter so you can spot the sluts. Pregnancy as a punishment for having sex.

Oh, I'm sure they won't, it would be far too risky. We'll be back to an era of secrecy and shame, where women will need to say things like they're "visiting Auntie Brenda" who just happens to live in a state where abortion is allowed. 😞

I can't comprehend it..

Why have things moved backwards?
It makes no sense.. Especially when people in the west are moving further and further away from religion.

There was a quote I once read about basically how outlawing abortion doesn't stop abortion, it stops safe abortion.. Or words to that effect.

So you get pregnant, and have the baby.

no maternity leave.
no free healthcare- you’ll have to pay at least part.
no or little social support.
no job, no healthcare for you or your child.

so these kids are being born to mothers who have to work from about 3 weeks pp.

but hey, they can own guns. Maybe women should take up their arms and force hospitals to perform terminations, give them medical care in pregnancy. Storm workplaces and insist on maternity packages.

after all, isn’t that what the right to bear arms is about? Forming a militia?

The American constitution really is a load of wank. The various amendments written in 1787 twisted to suit today's partisan point of view. Bullets didn't exist in 1787 but the founding fathers deffo wanted to protect an 18 year old's right in 2022 to walk about with an assault weapon.

People understand it wasn't a constitutional amendment so lecture not required.
But that legal precedent protected the rights of women nationwide. Now it, obviously, doesn't and the individual states can and will implement laws that are detrimental to women's health.

I read a news article recently where the reporter gained access to a religious activist conference where they openly discussed ending access to contraception. Already some red states have indicated that they are "looking into" IUDs (which they consider completely wrongly to be abortificants) and at this conference it became clear that ALL contraception is viewed as bad and against God's will. Sounds crazy doesn't it? These people are very serious.

At this same conference talk about the end of Roe v Wade was very celebratory and one attendee stated that now there would be more babies available to adopt from clean mothers. He mean't that as teenage birth rates will start rising again, there'll be healthy "problem-free" babies to adopt. Because of contraception and abortion, most babies and children in the adoption system now come from troubled home situations and have health and psychological trauma issues, so adopting has become more challenging more fail. Christians just want trauma-free white babies from teenage girls to adopt basically! These people and the society they want are scary as hell!

Let’s, for starters, stop using the term “carry” .
women do not carry babies - that implies a passive act where the baby is magically growing itself.
owmens Bodies grow a baby. The father contributes just 1 cell. Everything else, every cell division , every neutron, every bone, every muscle, every bit of fat the baby needs to survive comes form the womens body, the energy required for the baby to grow form 2 cells to roughly 7lb of flesh and bone comes form the women.
her body goes through massive changes as a result of that almost a parasitic relationship. Some women won’t survive that, or become seriously ill (preeclampsia for example). All women need time for their bodies to recover form that for months after despite what US Gov thinks in terms of maternity leave (hey are they going to up that now they’re forcing poor women to carry babies they can’t afford to give up work for? Nope),

pregnancy is seen by too many people as merely a passive period of 9 months of a baby hanging around inside the women developing and growing all by itself. Until that changes and the language changes to women “growing” not carrying babies, the anti choice bellends won’t begin to understand their untenable arguments

It is abhorrent and I am horrified for the women of the US.
It is a cesspit of a country and hopefully it will
implode eventually.

Your blaming women on this site, mainly in the UK for this being overturned.
Fuck right off with that.
If I said what I really wanted to say to you then I would probably get a permanent ban.....

Maybe American women should organise en masse, and march carrying assault rifles. Maybe they'd be shown some respect then.

Your blaming women on this site, mainly in the UK for this being overturned.
Did many women in the UK vote for Trump?

Oh and also, can’t pay for water because you’ve lost your job because you took time off for maternity complications*. So you have no running water and are walking every day to fill buckets.

*and if you don’t take medically advised time off, and you lose the baby, do you go to prison?

If abortion is murder, is miscarriage and stillbirth manslaughter? After all you technically are responsible for the baby dying.

where will it end?

and they say the US is a civilised country.