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So sick of walking on eggshells but can't deal with the fall-out if I don't. Advice please!

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DWofMN · 09/06/2022 11:43

I'm using DH's account, I'm not a MNer so please forgive me if I mess up the terminology - and apologies that this is long.

DH posted recently about an issue I'm having with my family and the general advice was either to go NC or to stand up to them - I don't feel like I can do either because DM has a temper but I love her dearly and treasure her in my life. She's an amazing GP to DS.

There are a few incidents playing on my mind and I don't know how to handle them:

DH and I are moving house to a new location, just over two hours from where we live. DM messaged me a couple of weeks ago to say that DSis was going on holiday to "nearby" the new house and, because DSis wanted to do an "adult only" activity with her DH, they had asked DM to come along and babysit DN. DM suggested we take this opportunity to show her our new house (I don't see why she needs to see it tbh) and I said I'd speak to the agent. The agent said it basically depends how busy they are - the owners won't allow us to just have free access to the house (it's vacant) which is fair enough so the agent said he'd do a viewing for DM if he has a slot available on the day but that he'd be prioritising people viewing properties who are actually going to purchase them (which is also fair enough). It also tied in well because I'm in my third trimester now and DSis still has my 0+ baby seat from when DN was little - and I need it back. So, I could tie in getting that back from her, I asked her to take it with her so I could get it back and she said she would. I've been anxious to get it back because DSis isn't the most reliable and I'm worried it'll be broken or missing parts and I need to know ASAP because it's part of our whole travel system.

On the day, the agent said that, unfortunately, he's fully booked up and there's no way he can do a viewing of the house for DM but that the vendors have said they have no problem with us going onto the property to look at the gardens and things - and we could also show DM the local area. I relayed this to DM, who was annoyed but ok, and I suggested we do an activity that's right next to the house that DS and DN would enjoy - DM agreed and we said what our ETA was and I sent a link and Google Maps location for the activity. When we arrived, about two hours later, there was no sign of DM and a few minutes later, DH got a text from DM that said "that's too far away..." (even though it's right next to the house she wanted to go and see) so DH replied asking her what she'd like to do. She replied "well, you could suggest somewhere closer for a start" - we don't know where she even is, all she's said to us is that she's staying "nearby the new house" (which was the entire reason she wanted us to book the viewing). She sent us her location, which was almost an hour away (and, by this point, we'd left the house three hours earlier, with a toddler and me being sick the whole time). DH drove the extra hour down and we met DM, DF and DN. DM was in a bad mood the whole time and told us she couldn't stay long (we met at a pub) because they needed to check out by 4pm (it was now gone 2pm) which I thought was odd because they were staying with DSis on her holiday so didn't need to "check out" but whatever. So, at 3.30pm DM went to the bathroom, I checked the time and said to DF we'd better head off to check out - at which point he said there's no rush because there's no check-out time. He said that just as DM reappeared, and she then had a big strop because she'd clearly been caught in a lie and just didn't want to spend any time with me. DF then wanted DH to help with lifting luggage so we went back to their accommodation to help, DSis came back at that point and said that she hadn't brought the car seat because she couldn't fit it in the car... So, I'd spent a day of my bank holiday driving for almost 8 hours to sit with my mum for 2 hours whilst she sulked, have DH sent rude text messages and not get my car seat back! It feels like I did nothing but try to appease her (by trying to get the viewing, by driving the extra hour to her, by pretending to accept she never said they had to check-out, by DH helping them pack, by not responding in kind to her rude messages etc) and all I got in return was her showing that she doesn't care at all.

DS has a birthday coming up and, because people insist on buying huge plastic toys that we have no space for despite us asking multiple times for them not to, we made an online list of gifts we think DS would like that are either activities or very small (a range of prices and no pressure to get anything). The online list is like a wedding gift registry where people say what they've bought so you don't end up with duplicates. For previous birthdays/Christmases, people have asked us for gift ideas and, regardless of what we suggest and even when we say "anything that isn't huge because we have no space", certain relatives insist on purchasing the biggest imaginable toys. I don't mean to sound ungrateful. One of DS's relatives purchased an activity gift from the list to take him to do. The next day, I got an irate message from DM asking why it's no longer available because she wanted to do that one. I asked around and found out, but explained to DM that DS would definitely enjoy doing the activity more than once so she can do it too if she likes - but she said no, she didn't want to do what someone else was doing. So, I had to ask the relative to give that up so DM could do it. Then, on a video call to DM later that day, DS showed her his new toy that he loves that he'd seen whilst we were out shopping (a small toy about £7). DM then got upset because she'd bought him the exact same toy for his birthday (how were we supposed to know that?) and couldn't return it because she'd bought it many months ago. I resolved that by saying we could return the one she has (still in packaging) as if it's the one we bought (they're identical and bought from the same store) and that DS can have the one he currently has a birthday gift from her - so she eventually, and grumpily, accepted that solution.

Then, last night, DM sent a link to our group chat to a holiday home booked for 2 days after my due date this summer. It's five hours drive from where I live, and mine and DH's share would be almost £1000 just for the house. The message accompanying the link said it was so that we could now go on the holiday. DM has been trying to book a family holiday abroad but we pointed out that we couldn't get a passport for the baby (and obviously can't leave a baby that's a day old with a sitter or anything) so obviously we couldn't go - so that was cancelled, with a lot of stropping and angst directed at me. DBro hasn't spoken to me since that was cancelled and DSis has only spoken to confirm she'd bring the car seat and then, when I saw him, to say she hadn't brought it. DSis then responded to the group chat with a pointed and sulky message about "oh, so this is instead of going somewhere nice abroad then?". I feel like I've ruined everyone else's summer holiday plans because I wouldn't go abroad so I feel like I have to agree with this holiday in the UK. But, in truth, we can't afford to pay thousands for a holiday right now and I don't want to book something for two days after the baby is due! I didn't reply in the group chat because I didn't know what to say so then I got a message late last night from DM saying that she's going to phone me today to "nail down my plans for July and August". I can't "nail down my plans" - the baby could come at almost any point in July/August (due date is the very start of August), so my only plan is to be prepared for that.

I feel like the stress of appeasing her is just too much - but it's so much less stress than either confronting her or ignoring her. So, there's no option which isn't stressful. I'm so ill, I have HG and I'm over a stone lighter than my booking-in weight and my weight is going down again. I just want to curl up in a ball, ignore everybody and cry - but that won't resolve the issue. She's going to phone me and I just don't know what to say, I don't even want to answer.

What do I do? I think I just needed to write all of that out.

OP posts:
DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 21/06/2022 11:45

Hope you are feeling a bit better now that you are getting some rest @DWofMN. Your DH sounds lovely and very caring. From now on

YOUR DH MUST BE YOUR GATEKEEPER WHILE YOU ARE ILL

He reads and if necessary responds to these texts. All communication goes through him and he filters out the bad stuff and whether he even needs to tell you. DH - "I am not going to worry OP with messages ATM, doctors orders" You won't be hearing any more stress inducing nonsense from them until you are better. Nor should give them any extra information unless asked because that just gives them an excuse to show their disdain with lukewarm or no response at all. He should advise midwife/doctor what is going on with family. He can make plans about who will look after DS whilst you are in labour and ask their advice and what support you can have.

You must focus on resting and reducing your stress levels. Their previous behaviour was upsetting but this behaviour could add to the current medical issues you and your child are experiencing.

FORGET, (as much as you can) everything else, your Sis and whether she's ignoring you (so what if she is - what does she actually expect or want that you are in a position to do something about?) DM's mind games... ALL of it. Because the only thing that matters now is the health of you and your baby

I know their treatment of you is heartbreaking, but distract yourself as much as you can from thinking about the current roar of nonsense. Plug your ears into some comedy shows, or podcasts, or nice films or find a binge-watchable series that has nothing to do with family drama and dream about the lovely time you will spend with your own little family. You can't turn the clock back, but you can look forward to how well you will treat your own beloved DC and DH.

Often the relationship with a parent we are grieving is not the one we actually have, but the one we longed for but will never get, no matter how hard you try and you have tried very hard. The current situation crosses a line and goes some way beyond it. But you don't have to stay trapped in that forever, you can lower your expectations of those who are unkind to you and decide to only engage fully with people who are actually good for you and treat you well. Wishing you a speedy recovery OP x

Twillow · 21/06/2022 19:48

I'm still curious about the ankle -is it a confirmed break and in plaster?? Or just a sprain?

timeisnotaline · 24/06/2022 11:34

One more point- having baby early does NOT free you up for the holiday dates. No = no = no.

LunaAndHerMoonDragons · 24/06/2022 12:07

DWofMN · 09/06/2022 20:35

"Angry" varies - I don't tend to anger her if I can help it. She's, most often, angry with DF - which involves a lot of screaming and shouting, sometimes throwing things. She used to be like that with DBro growing up because he'd talk back to her but the rest of us never really did. DSis was quite confrontational with DM as a teen, mostly she'd try to control her drinking which made DM angry. I know she hit DSis on a few occasions but DSis told me once that she hit her back and she never hit her again (but DSis is older than I am so I don't really remember this).

I don't think she's been properly "angry" with me since I lived at home. One time I was sick with a stomach bug and she was angry and accused me of being pregnant, called me a "whore", slamming doors and things. Another time, when I was on study leave, it was DBro's "turn" to clear the kitchen but he'd been out with friends all day. At the time, he was taking a lot of drugs. She was angry that the kitchen hadn't been cleared by me and so yelled at me about "sitting on my arse all day" and stormed out. I said "better than taking drugs all day", thinking she couldn't hear me but she could and she came back in and hit me - but that's the only time she's hit me since I was a young child.

I can't really think of any other times I've said or done anything that makes her angry. I tend to notice if she's getting angry and try to diffuse it so she's just grumpy or annoyed instead.

Your DM is abusive, physically and emotionally and your DF didn't protect you the way he should have. You're the scapegoat, you're to blame for everything wrong, you will never be able to get it right, because she won't let you. You can't change her, you can't fix her, you can't make it right.

Failure isn't realising the toxic way you were raised isn't ok, going low contact and setting boundaries in place to protect yourself and your immediate family. Failure would be beating your head against this rock for the rest of her life and doing harm to your DH and DC in the process. By that I don't mean you'd be directly harming them, but you'd be showing them that it's ok for their mum to be abused, that it's ok to treat people cruelly and with contempt, to manipulate and take no personal responsibility. You'd be wasting lots of energy and time trying to fix her, trying to get it right, time like that lost day driving around for hours pregnant with HG, all to appease your mother.

Can you imagine ever doing that to your daughter if she gets HG, not helping, not caring, berating her, demanding she drives for hours? I know you can't, because that is not normal behaviour, it is not ok on any level. The way she treats you is horrible, you do NOT deserve that in any way, shape or form. You and your DH and your DC (in the long run) will all be better off only having minimal contact with her. One day one of your DC could be scapegoated and desperately trying to appease their grandma because that's what they've grown up with.

CantGetDecentNickname · 28/06/2022 13:27

The more you say about your DM, the worse she sounds. She is very abusive. Please don't allow her anywhere near your DS or his sibling when they arrive. They need to be protected FROM HER. Never agree to a family holiday and please mute their chat or as many others have advised, give your phone to your DP. You are too involved in their madness and really need to walk away from it. Your only concerns should be your health and that of your immediate family. You don't owe her anything, including contact with grandkids, no matter how much money she throws at them.

Cantstandbullshit · 24/07/2022 17:57

DWofMN · 09/06/2022 15:33

This was really hurtful and upsetting to read - because it's absolutely true. You're completely right. I enjoy fixing the problems, I like that I can make her demands happen. I like that people acknowledge when I've done 50,000 things at once and pulled it all together and it worked and everyone's happy.

I don't know how to accept that I cannot fix this. If I knew the baby would come on a specific day and be healthy enough to not need hospital then I'd make it work - but I don't know that, so I can't commit to the holiday. Also, increasingly, I can't meet these demands on my own - I can't drive right now, I can't lift heavy things, I need DH to do those things for me. So, when my family require that I do them, he ends up having to do them by extension.

It feels like if I stop appeasing her then I've failed to make her happy. And I won't be happy if I've failed. I don't want to be a failure.

You sounds like you have a lot of issues to resolve and you need therapy.

really? If you don’t appease her you will feel like a failure?

Softplayhooray · 24/07/2022 18:25

Jesus OP your DM is a horror. She's treating you like a doormat and she is really nasty to you. Say you can't go on UK holiday, you're having a baby. Right now she's pressuring you and making you uncomfortable and she knows exactly what she's doing.

Stop giving in to her ridiculous behaviour. This isn't how someone who loves and respects a person treats them. And she is not a lovely DGM if she treats the mother of those kids like crap.

CaveMum · 24/07/2022 19:47

OP has started a new thread, the baby has arrived, but the family’s awful treatment of OP continues.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4596612-aibu-to-think-you-dont-announce-a-pregnancy-like-this?page=1

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