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So sick of walking on eggshells but can't deal with the fall-out if I don't. Advice please!

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DWofMN · 09/06/2022 11:43

I'm using DH's account, I'm not a MNer so please forgive me if I mess up the terminology - and apologies that this is long.

DH posted recently about an issue I'm having with my family and the general advice was either to go NC or to stand up to them - I don't feel like I can do either because DM has a temper but I love her dearly and treasure her in my life. She's an amazing GP to DS.

There are a few incidents playing on my mind and I don't know how to handle them:

DH and I are moving house to a new location, just over two hours from where we live. DM messaged me a couple of weeks ago to say that DSis was going on holiday to "nearby" the new house and, because DSis wanted to do an "adult only" activity with her DH, they had asked DM to come along and babysit DN. DM suggested we take this opportunity to show her our new house (I don't see why she needs to see it tbh) and I said I'd speak to the agent. The agent said it basically depends how busy they are - the owners won't allow us to just have free access to the house (it's vacant) which is fair enough so the agent said he'd do a viewing for DM if he has a slot available on the day but that he'd be prioritising people viewing properties who are actually going to purchase them (which is also fair enough). It also tied in well because I'm in my third trimester now and DSis still has my 0+ baby seat from when DN was little - and I need it back. So, I could tie in getting that back from her, I asked her to take it with her so I could get it back and she said she would. I've been anxious to get it back because DSis isn't the most reliable and I'm worried it'll be broken or missing parts and I need to know ASAP because it's part of our whole travel system.

On the day, the agent said that, unfortunately, he's fully booked up and there's no way he can do a viewing of the house for DM but that the vendors have said they have no problem with us going onto the property to look at the gardens and things - and we could also show DM the local area. I relayed this to DM, who was annoyed but ok, and I suggested we do an activity that's right next to the house that DS and DN would enjoy - DM agreed and we said what our ETA was and I sent a link and Google Maps location for the activity. When we arrived, about two hours later, there was no sign of DM and a few minutes later, DH got a text from DM that said "that's too far away..." (even though it's right next to the house she wanted to go and see) so DH replied asking her what she'd like to do. She replied "well, you could suggest somewhere closer for a start" - we don't know where she even is, all she's said to us is that she's staying "nearby the new house" (which was the entire reason she wanted us to book the viewing). She sent us her location, which was almost an hour away (and, by this point, we'd left the house three hours earlier, with a toddler and me being sick the whole time). DH drove the extra hour down and we met DM, DF and DN. DM was in a bad mood the whole time and told us she couldn't stay long (we met at a pub) because they needed to check out by 4pm (it was now gone 2pm) which I thought was odd because they were staying with DSis on her holiday so didn't need to "check out" but whatever. So, at 3.30pm DM went to the bathroom, I checked the time and said to DF we'd better head off to check out - at which point he said there's no rush because there's no check-out time. He said that just as DM reappeared, and she then had a big strop because she'd clearly been caught in a lie and just didn't want to spend any time with me. DF then wanted DH to help with lifting luggage so we went back to their accommodation to help, DSis came back at that point and said that she hadn't brought the car seat because she couldn't fit it in the car... So, I'd spent a day of my bank holiday driving for almost 8 hours to sit with my mum for 2 hours whilst she sulked, have DH sent rude text messages and not get my car seat back! It feels like I did nothing but try to appease her (by trying to get the viewing, by driving the extra hour to her, by pretending to accept she never said they had to check-out, by DH helping them pack, by not responding in kind to her rude messages etc) and all I got in return was her showing that she doesn't care at all.

DS has a birthday coming up and, because people insist on buying huge plastic toys that we have no space for despite us asking multiple times for them not to, we made an online list of gifts we think DS would like that are either activities or very small (a range of prices and no pressure to get anything). The online list is like a wedding gift registry where people say what they've bought so you don't end up with duplicates. For previous birthdays/Christmases, people have asked us for gift ideas and, regardless of what we suggest and even when we say "anything that isn't huge because we have no space", certain relatives insist on purchasing the biggest imaginable toys. I don't mean to sound ungrateful. One of DS's relatives purchased an activity gift from the list to take him to do. The next day, I got an irate message from DM asking why it's no longer available because she wanted to do that one. I asked around and found out, but explained to DM that DS would definitely enjoy doing the activity more than once so she can do it too if she likes - but she said no, she didn't want to do what someone else was doing. So, I had to ask the relative to give that up so DM could do it. Then, on a video call to DM later that day, DS showed her his new toy that he loves that he'd seen whilst we were out shopping (a small toy about £7). DM then got upset because she'd bought him the exact same toy for his birthday (how were we supposed to know that?) and couldn't return it because she'd bought it many months ago. I resolved that by saying we could return the one she has (still in packaging) as if it's the one we bought (they're identical and bought from the same store) and that DS can have the one he currently has a birthday gift from her - so she eventually, and grumpily, accepted that solution.

Then, last night, DM sent a link to our group chat to a holiday home booked for 2 days after my due date this summer. It's five hours drive from where I live, and mine and DH's share would be almost £1000 just for the house. The message accompanying the link said it was so that we could now go on the holiday. DM has been trying to book a family holiday abroad but we pointed out that we couldn't get a passport for the baby (and obviously can't leave a baby that's a day old with a sitter or anything) so obviously we couldn't go - so that was cancelled, with a lot of stropping and angst directed at me. DBro hasn't spoken to me since that was cancelled and DSis has only spoken to confirm she'd bring the car seat and then, when I saw him, to say she hadn't brought it. DSis then responded to the group chat with a pointed and sulky message about "oh, so this is instead of going somewhere nice abroad then?". I feel like I've ruined everyone else's summer holiday plans because I wouldn't go abroad so I feel like I have to agree with this holiday in the UK. But, in truth, we can't afford to pay thousands for a holiday right now and I don't want to book something for two days after the baby is due! I didn't reply in the group chat because I didn't know what to say so then I got a message late last night from DM saying that she's going to phone me today to "nail down my plans for July and August". I can't "nail down my plans" - the baby could come at almost any point in July/August (due date is the very start of August), so my only plan is to be prepared for that.

I feel like the stress of appeasing her is just too much - but it's so much less stress than either confronting her or ignoring her. So, there's no option which isn't stressful. I'm so ill, I have HG and I'm over a stone lighter than my booking-in weight and my weight is going down again. I just want to curl up in a ball, ignore everybody and cry - but that won't resolve the issue. She's going to phone me and I just don't know what to say, I don't even want to answer.

What do I do? I think I just needed to write all of that out.

OP posts:
Quitelikeit · 09/06/2022 12:20

Unfortunately your family won’t change but you can change your approach to your family.

you are not some little child who needs to do as her mothers says

you go to the group chat and say ‘thanks for this but we won’t make it this year, so if you guys want to go abroad or whatever you decide hope you have a great time’

SuperSange · 09/06/2022 12:20

This is all too hard. You know what you need to do. Cut them out. I literally couldn't be arsed dealing with all of that.

Moosake · 09/06/2022 12:21

You need to NC or lose your shit with them.

AlisonDonut · 09/06/2022 12:22

Buy a car seat and stop running around and arguing and appeasing and pandering and just start living.

The bit about getting the estate agent running round and then the vendors running round all after someone who isn't even actually in the fucking area! Come on. You need to just stop.

Howshouldibehave · 09/06/2022 12:22

So, I had to ask the relative to give that up so DM could do it.

No, you didn’t have to do this! Why on earth would you?!

stop enabling these people and live your life.

NotSorry · 09/06/2022 12:22

Hi OP - I recognise myself so much from your post - bending over backwards for parents who only cared about themselves - she is not an amazing person, she is manipulative and sulks when she doesn't get her own way. I can highly recommend this book - it changed my life - I did also have counselling in addition but this set me on the path to enlightenment.

I went very low contact with my parents as I didn't want my children around the toxicity - as a result my children barely know my parents and I am glad

Remember you can only control yourself so take some of the good advice above and start making changes with your husband's support

book link If you had controlling parents

Comtesse · 09/06/2022 12:23

You have got to be kidding me. You are heavily pregnant and ill and have a little kid. Honestly why are you jumping through hoops like this? You would be well within your rights to tell them all to shove off. And if you won’t do it, could your husband wade in? Honestly they are absolutely taking the piss. Do not stand for it.

cestlavielife · 09/06/2022 12:23

Dm dies not need to see house you buying unless she is funding it for you
Just say
I ll invite you when we moved in

The rest just stop

TheFeistyFeminist · 09/06/2022 12:23

At the moment your life is stressful and you're walking on eggshells because of their batshit craziness and the way they treat you is appalling.

I can picture a sunnier future where they are still batshit crazy and they would treat you appallingly ... but ... you have stood up to them and you spend less time with them and you're free to go on holiday where/when you want and you can raise your child in peace.

The standing-up-to-them might be hard but the other side of it is the life you want to live, not beholden to their aggression and abuse.

Crikeyalmighty · 09/06/2022 12:25

Ah, an eastenders family- like drama and all about 'family' - grow some balls between you and stop pandering to this needy woman who needs to get a life. What sort of woman gets her knickers in a twist about you not being around to go on holiday as you will have a newborn or insists on viewings of your new house before you have moved in. !! Imagine OP that you were reading someone else's post about this- I'm sure your response would be 'fuck that! Put some boundaries in and learn to say 'sorry that's not possible'

Mally100 · 09/06/2022 12:25

Comtesse · 09/06/2022 12:23

You have got to be kidding me. You are heavily pregnant and ill and have a little kid. Honestly why are you jumping through hoops like this? You would be well within your rights to tell them all to shove off. And if you won’t do it, could your husband wade in? Honestly they are absolutely taking the piss. Do not stand for it.

This! You cant complain because you are going along with it. I understand you don't want to deal with the fallout but it's either that or put up with it.

SarahProblem · 09/06/2022 12:26

OP - Are you prepared to actually do anything about this otherwise there is no point posting?

MissEDashwood19 · 09/06/2022 12:26

Your post makes very sad reading. You're pregnant, very unwell and have a small child and yet your mother's needs must come first. Your mother sounds an unpleasant woman. She has probably spent a lifetime bullying and berating you, which is why you so meekly submit to her unreasonable demands.

You have to ask yourself whether you want to subject your children to this level of dysfunction moving forward. This can't be good for you at this stage of pregnancy, particularly with HG. I also pity your DH who must be under huge stress supporting you with this constant appeasement of your parents and being asked to accept the emotional abuse of his pregnant wife. It won't be long before your son is aware of how poorly his grandparents treat his parents. Are you OK with him witnessing that?

My parents sound quite similar to yours. I was terrified of them for years and appeased my mother at all costs. Once I had children something snapped. I refused to accept the dysfunction and emotional abuse any longer. I couldn't draw boundaries with them for myself, but I could do it for my children. I didn't want the drama, outbursts or walking on eggshells to continue. My children have wonderful relationships with my DH's parents, so I don't think they're missing by having limited contact with my parents.

ShadowoftheFall · 09/06/2022 12:27

You can stand up for yourself and you should. What has happened in your life that makes you think everyone’s needs come before your own?

You deserve better. You are currently being unreasonable to put up with this ridiculousness. You are the one who has to put an end to this, you can do it, and you will never need to put up with this nonsense again.

You would not be remotely unreasonable to go NC. You and your husband and children deserve better.

Moosake · 09/06/2022 12:27

Howshouldibehave · 09/06/2022 12:22

So, I had to ask the relative to give that up so DM could do it.

No, you didn’t have to do this! Why on earth would you?!

stop enabling these people and live your life.

And I agree. How do you think the relative felt! This is so sad OP I feel really sorry for you. If you can't stand up to them I think you'll have to go NC.

Thehop · 09/06/2022 12:28

Reply in group chat.

“it’s a no from us, we’re having a baby and It’s way too close to my due date, even if I did want to go. You guys go abroad. We really don’t want to holiday this year and we don’t mind waving you off and seeing pictures one bit. Have fun!”

then distance yourself. Ffs your family are VILE

Wnikat · 09/06/2022 12:28

Mate, you don’t need this in your life. Any of it. Message the group chat saying you can’t book a holiday so close to your due date. Then leave the chat.

Ukholidaysaregreat · 09/06/2022 12:31

Your Mother is a fucking maniac. I have only read half of your OP and I am fuming with how she is treating you. Tell her to fuck off and get your car seat off your sister and then tell her to fuck off. Good Luck with your pregnancy and enjoy your own family.

bloodyunicorns · 09/06/2022 12:38

Your mum is used to everything being done her way and is a manipulative bully.

Tell her no. You're not going on the holiday. Ignore her reaction.

Ask your sister for the car seat back.

Then cut contact with all of them.

Some counselling might help you deal with them?

Reginaldina · 09/06/2022 12:40

I don't understand why your mum is contacting you, a grown adult with her own family and children, to 'nail down the plans for July/August'. She sounds like an absolute pain in the arse who expects the world to revolve around her.
Your focus should be on the fact you're expecting a baby and on your own health and family.
Buy a new car seat.
Ignore her calls and the family whattsapp for a bit. Focus on you. Massively reduce contact and don't get involved in their pathetic drama's.
Your summer should be spent with your husband, toddler and new baby, so you can recover from the birth, bond with your baby and enjoy your time together. If your mum/sis/brother want to go on holiday somewhere, anywhere, they can do. If they feel like they want to come to visit you over the summer, at a time that suits you, tell them they can do.

Whatifitallgoesright · 09/06/2022 12:40

You seem conditioned to obey her. It is going to be hard though to break ingrained habits but really, start rebelling, it's never too late. You don't seem to see how you accomodating her effects other people. Why should the person who bought the activity have to change it? That is rude to them. The estate agent could lose a purchase because he's showing your mother - a non-buyer around? Why on earth should he do that. They go on holiday without you. It's not difficult is it? Really? Would love to know the holiday dynamics - no, I don't actually. I'm already outraged on your behalf. Do you all take every single holiday all together? What a nightmare. Not normal.

Your pregnancy is now a brilliant opportunity to 'forget' to check countless whatsup/message/Fb group notifications. Turn everything off. Relax, you are growing a baby. You are an amazing baby-grower and they should be treating you like a queen. Bring out your inner queen who is an imperious woman who pleases only herself.

TedMullins · 09/06/2022 12:40

I think you need to grow a backbone and tell the lot of them to fuck off. If you won’t stand up to them or go NC/LC, what advice do you even want? Nothing will change if you keep pandering to their demands. Just because they’re family doesn’t mean they have to be in your life especially if they’re manipulative dicks

Hoppinggreen · 09/06/2022 12:45

What exactly do you treasure about her? She sounds awful.
She treats you like this because you let her and as for fallout well you get that anyway.
It sounds like your DH has your back so just reduce contact, I appreciate actually saying no to your mother may be too much for you at the moment but you can give 1 word or very brief answer and don’t engage with the drama
And never ever go on a family holiday with her

Imogensmumma · 09/06/2022 12:46

Your relationship with your family isn’t healthy. You should be able to disagree and not pander to their every demand.

alA simple no we are not making any holiday plans in July/August is all you need.

I feel so sorry for your DH, you may need to think how much your DH will put up with before he has had enough. Time for you to put your big girl pants on and just say no!

Fluffycloudland77 · 09/06/2022 12:47

You need to go NC, your dragging your dh and kids through this with you.