Boris has survived the vote. Anyone pleased ?

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And do you think he can survive in the long term ..

New poll here -

@ BritainElects
Jun 6
Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 38% (-1)
CON: 34% (+1)
LDEM: 11% (-1)
GRN: 7% (+1)
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@ RedfieldWilton
05 Jun
Chgs. w/ 01 Jun

I used to like Boris, I liked him as London mayor. But I just want him to go now.
I’m sick of the elitism and corruption in government and the VIP contracts he’s given to all his mates.
I’m fairly central in my politics so would vote labour if they had a better alternative to Kier.

Several people I know actively think he has done an amazing job especially with the vaccines.

The husband of the woman who actually ran the vaccine programme doesn’t agree with them.

mobile.twitter.com/Jesse_Norman

I wouldn’t count myself as an avid ‘Boris supporter’ but I think he handled the pandemic and the Ukraine war as well as any.
I do accept that his idiot partygate means he has to go, however I also don’t want any of the current candidates as my PM.

I don’t know anyone who is pleased, even my elderly parents who normally vote Conservative. They are appalled and embarrassed by him.

I'm delighted. Now we get to sit back and watch them eat themselves for the next 6 months until they finally get rid of him.

126 FPN's but yeah let's keep pretending this is about a piece of cake

'And now that he won the vote posters are saying they’re glad that he won because now he’s signed the tories’ death warrant. Would these same posters have been posting that they were sad he’d lost the vote if he did? '

You'll see multiple posts from yesterday saying it's a win-win either way.

'And now that he won the vote posters are saying they’re glad that he won because now he’s signed the tories’ death warrant. Would these same posters have been posting that they were sad he’d lost the vote if he did? '

Yeah, I said quite a lot yesterday (not on MN I think?) that my ideal result was for about 150 to vote against him.

It wasn't an uncommon view during the day yesterday.

Another 6-12 months of psychodrama in the lunatic lying wing of the Tory party until it finally destroys itself is a pretty good result.

Alexandra2001
Corbyn would not have been so gung ho over Covid nor had parties in Downing street

2 Oct 2020
Jeremy Corbyn will not be fined after breaching the ‘rule of six’ limit on social gatherings by attending a dinner party with eight other people.

Scotland Yard confirmed the MP will not be fined, saying police will not retrospectively enforce coronavirus laws.

Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer said Mr Corbyn should have obeyed the rules, but stopped short of calling for his predecessor to be fined.

metro.co.uk/2020/10/02/jeremy-corbyn-wont-be-fined-for-breaking-rule-of-six-at-dinner-party-13360046/

26 Feb 2021
Jeremy Corbyn has been accused of breaking lockdown restrictions again.
The former Labour leader was spotted among a group of 12 outside a café during a wake, which did not appear to be following social distancing rules.

metro.co.uk/2021/02/26/jeremy-corbyn-seen-breaking-lockdown-rules-again-14149007/

I think it's safe to say that most if not all of the MPs who voted against him last night are not on Mumsnet.

I know people who rated him, people who accepted him as the best of a debatable bunch and people who couldn't stand him. Now, everyone I know sees him as a liability to the Tories and to the country. They are a very mixed bunch too, from every walk of life.

The tide has been changing over the last couple of years or so.

I live in a white affluent area. It voted remain and has a Labour councillor 🤷🏼‍♀️

It doesn't matter what I or anyone else on here thinks , the Conservative party will get rid of him, if and when they see fit, the electorate won't get any say in the matter.
There are two years until the next GE. Interesting times ahead for Boris.

They massively jumped the gun. They should have waited until the middle class lot start feeling the pinch from the increase in bills etc (first quartlery bill time would have probably done it, if not the next hike in October)

If they had done that, the mps would have more of their voters calling for some sort of change but they were too impatient.

@Clavinova i can play this game as I also had a mid June birthday in 2020 with 6 people in my yard and it was pretty shit as happened to be quite cold and the messaging around whether or not anyone could go to the bathroom inside was NOT clear at all. We did it with much performance of hand washing and darting around each other in the kitchen. I didn’t invite the group into the fucking house for a quick drink and bit of a cake because I have the reading comprehension skills required to understand that it was ILLEGAL and I didn’t want anyone to catch covid because we had gone inside for 10 minutes (as we understood at that time - plenty of time to catch covid). I brought blankets out and offered the coldest people a hot water bottle.

indoor social gatherings were not allowed full stop. I cannot fucking believe that ‘oh he’s too stupid to have realised it was illegal’ or ‘-I guess he didn’t think it mattered because they’d all been ignoring covid regulations and working really close to each other anyway’ is the actual defence people are coming out with.

If I could teach online the office staff at no 10 could get on bloody teams like rest rest of us and call each other.

@orwellwasright
I like Boris because hes libertarian in his philosophy, personally I hate the nanny state so that fits with my values. He's polite, a decent communicator, very bright. I read his autobiography and he reads the Greek epic poems, in Greek.
I think he genuinely wants to please others and do a good job. Also he's just got a personality. People like Starmer or Theresa May... Just nothing there, trotting out shit they think they want you to hear.
He did a decent job with the brexit deal and not a awful job with Covid. For me he's far from perfect, but good enough.

He's a mere celebrity, a puppet. He doesn't actually do anything. People should be more interest in who controls boris.

He did a decent job with the brexit deal and not a awful job with Covid.

Yes, I'm very much enjoying having one of the most sluggish growth rates and worst export recovery in Europe. Makes it so easy to pay for the massively expanded state.

daimbarsatemydogsbone
The Brexiteers have been driven away totally

Driven away by boredom - several prominent remain posters left the Brexit board at the same time as me. I looked in on them about two weeks ago - they were still arguing about the validity of the referendum - haven't moved on at all. I didn't have the heart to tell them that the screenshot quotes (supposedly from a parliamentary briefing paper) were fakes. The reference number/section numbers were quoted so I checked the briefing paper myself (easy to view online) - one section stated the complete opposite to the fake quote.

I think Boris is awful but unfortunately he has the political X factor. Like Blair before him. I was at a Jubilee party and plenty were defending him (he’s making us look good abroad apparently 😯)

There is NOONE either side of the house who has the X factor. Thus he shall remain until his position his untenable.

(and there is no point trying to unpick why someone has the X factor. They just have it and you can’t bottle it).

eatingapie
@ Clavinova i can play this game as I also had a mid June birthday in 2020 with 6 people in my yard and it was pretty s...t

To be fair - Boris Johnson said his birthday gathering in the cabinet room was pretty rubbish as well - he didn't even have any birthday cake.

he’s too stupid to have realised it was illegal’ or ‘-I guess he didn’t think it mattered because they’d all been ignoring covid regulations and working really close to each other anyway’ is the actual defence people are coming out with

These female leaders all broke their own Covid rules: Nicola Sturgeon (twice) - and the prime ministers of Denmark, Norway and Finland:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nicola-sturgeon-apologises-after-breaking-face-mask-rules-at-funeral-tkqw9d05z
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61142777

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/09/norway-prime-minister-erna-solberg-fined-breaking-covid-rules-birthday

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59577371

www.france24.com/en/live-news/20211204-danish-pm-sorry-for-breaking-covid-mask-rules

@Clavinova I don't think even you can compare 2 extra people turning up uninvited with dozens of parties held in no10 and by the PM of the day?

BJ wouldn't have faced a no confidence vote had he had just one party.

Will people please stop saying that PM Johnson has done a good job on Brexit. BREXIT ISN'T DONE! It has been knocked off the front pages by Covid, war in Ukraine and the fact the PM broke the law, lied to everyone and isn't sorry.

But it isn't done. It's not even close to being done. Currently PM Johnson's government are discussing whether to throw away an international agreement that they negotiated and signed or just break international law in "limited and specific ways".

BREXIT IS NOT DONE.

I just hope he goes very soon. The corruption and law breaking Johnson presides over is absolutely terrible and will only increase as MPs realise they can basically behave how they like and it’s apparently totally fine.