Boris has survived the vote. Anyone pleased ?

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And do you think he can survive in the long term ..

You really like to recycle your whataboutery links

Durham police let this 100th birthday party go ahead on the 10th May 2020 (earlier date than the Number 10 parties) - organised by a Labour Mayor and attended by Labour MP Kevan Jones

Did Boris ask the Police if it was ok to have Wine Fridays? leaving drinks and parties? Did BJ tell us all that there was a mistake and that ALL these things were actually allowed under Covid emergency law?

Anyone recall Kevan jones or Frederick Herron telling us over and over again that we must obey the LD rules... and save lives?
Or telling children that they shouldn't celebrate their birthdays.......

Anyone who thinks Brexit is Done, has their head in the sand or doesn't care.

No need to say “unfortunately” as it’s not true. There is data to prove he’s disliked far, far beyond this forum.

Good to see another “let’s turn the thread into Starmer whataboutery” poster log on, by the way. I guess they swap with each other for the evening shift.

Vikki69 Labour policies are on their website for anyone to read.

And the gathering Johnson was at was unlawful. So how is any of that relevant?

And now that he won the vote posters are saying they’re glad that he won because now he’s signed the tories’ death warrant. Would these same posters have been posting that they were sad he’d lost the vote if he did?

Well, probably not. Because those posters were mostly, rightly, saying it was a win-win situation: if he lost the vote, great, we would no longer have an incompetent, venal and lying Prime Minister; if he won, great, the Conservatives would be saddled with him as leader in the run-up to an election.

Decent job with the Brexit deal when he wants to renege on one of the most important elements? And have you noticed how poor our growth rate is? Did you think the way he handled care homes and PPE was "not awful"?

Does wanting to please others and having a personality make up for repeated lies to Parliament, and giving lucrative government contracts to his mates? Or the Paterson saga?

It doesn't matter whether he attended a party, does it? The relevant legislation was about attending gatherings, which he undoubtedly did - on his own admission.

You can dredge up as much as you like about individual leaders attending single gatherings. None of it remotely compares with presiding over an organisation which attracted 126 FPNs. Can you imagine that being allowed to happen under the likes of May or Thatcher?

@Clavinova

…and? Did you have a point?

Only more whataboutery.

It actually could be a good result in the long run. I’m hoping that at the general election the whole party gets voted out based on him being PM which is better than another Tory taking over and people deciding to keep them in.

i know we all have cognitive biases but it is interesting that some people are SO biased over Boris Johnson. As in, I’d like to vote for Keir Starmer but if it came out he’d been growing weed in his garden shed or something I’d be like - ok yeah that’s illegal and he can’t do that and be PM, so I’d expect him to resign. If he did something super un Labour like voted for this right to buy for HA tenancies I’d be really disappointed and I wouldn’t have any qualms about expressing that. I wouldn’t spend a lot of time online saying - oh well Keir was just taking advantage of a business opportunity when he started growing weed, I can’t blame him and really I think it’s backwards that other people hadn’t got round to doing it yet and loads of people are doing it anyway so it’s fine; or defend extending right to buy by saying, oh yeah it’s actually really good to see them doing something that needs to be done even though it’s the opposite of their political
philosophy yeah cool I love it.

it feels like that’s where we are with people defending BJ.

this is the calibre of the scumbag Tory voters put into power, and a majority of Tory MP's support. We all knew this before he was ever PM.

mobile.twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1534059039994298368/video/1

It's really revealing that the best Johnson's defenders can do is to recycle the old cut and paste reports of individual instances of other people breaking rules in a way which simply comes nowhere near presiding over an organisation that attracted 126 FPNs. They can none of them come up with a real defence, and even the "Look over there" tactic simply goes to point up how egregious Johnson's behaviour has been.

amaryllis

and the ‘NHS and school staff were having work drinks’ bollocks

i find this is particular disgusting but its a very handy way of double checking which politicians are complete twats

I just don’t care about the 126 FPNs. Could be ten fold and I still don’t care. I don’t give it a thought. I would vote for Boris again. That makes people criticise me vociferously on here but I’m not unusual amongst people where it’s come up in conversation. But it is a cross party don’t care. If all Parliament, every SPAD, researcher and MP had a massive knees up daily during lockdown AND LIED ABOUT IT, I still wouldn’t care.

I appreciate that’s very annoying for everyone who cares to tell me I’m a stupid immoral scumbag or whatever but I find that quite entertaining, as most haranguing on MN tends to be.

I can’t imagine getting that het up about any individual politician from any party. Nicola Sturgeon probably annoys me the most and it’s not much but she was miles the best in her responses to questions pre election so I see why people do like her and vote for her. I can see why people thought Corbyn was brilliant - in lots of ways he was. I can see why people love Jess Philips and also why they don’t. I can’t imagine ever hammering away at my phone insinuating that GCHQ has formed some sort of Mumsnet alliance to mention you don’t mind the prime minister actually when the reality is, in the big wide world, he did win a landslide election based on his personality.

@Morte Luckily your in the minority and if the UK did vote for Johnson based on his personality, the we deserve all we get... though of course just 43.6% of the electorate voted Tory, which is barely more than May got in 2017 - 42.4%

Not a landslide in democratic terms.

he did win a landslide election based on his personality

He wouldn’t now. I don’t care about personality. I want a decent PM with integrity who cares about their country. If I had to have a Tory PM I’d take Major any time.

"he did win a landslide election based on his personality"

No he didn't. Tory focus groups correctly determined that 'get brexit done' was a winner and built their entire campaign around it + most peole were allergic to Corbyn.

Johnson's personal ratings in 2019 were nothing special - they only seem great in hidsight because the current ones are abysmal.

"he did win a landslide election based on his personality"

OK. a liar and a cheat and a significant number of the electorate say it's fine by them.

No he didn't. Tory focus groups correctly determined that 'get brexit done' was a winner and built their entire campaign around it

absolutely

That was fun while it lasted:

POLL: Westminster Voting Intention

LAB: 40% (+2)
CON: 32% (-2)
LD: 13% (+2)
GRN: 5% (+2)
SNP: 4% (-)
RFM: 4% (-)

Via @RedfieldWilton
, 8-9th June
Changes w/ 5th June