Boris has survived the vote. Anyone pleased ?

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And do you think he can survive in the long term ..

Agree with this. I'm gutted things will still be shit and chaotic with nothing actually getting done, but I think they would be with whichever Tory MP that replaced him. I want a change of ideology as the party's current ideology is fucking bonkers and self destructive. I think that will only change when they lose a GE, so hoping that they continue to underperformed spectacularly until then.

It's shit we have to suffer in the meantime, but as I said, it wouldnt have changed if we had got a new Tory leader.

Perhaps people against Boris should read the trapped in China thread, could easily been us.

The Brexiteers have been driven away totally - there were a few Tory apologists but they seem to have gone silent. Was this an attempt to flush them out and then vilify them as with any mention of Brexit?

They have done their job, not needed until the next stormy period needs twisting.

But under Boris we could all have parties and lie about it

I despise and detest Boris, and Tories in general, but if I had to choose between him and the unhinged Truss, then he's a lesser evil.

A caller to lbc radio earlier on was very pleased : he thinks that people getting their knickers in a twist over a few '' porkie pies '' was ridiculous and we should all move on.
Words fail me , but many people do feel this way. They obviously feel Boris Johnson is ' getting the big calls right ' and let it drop.
I don't think it will go away that easily, not for a while.

So we want starmer, who spent several years telling us corbyn would be a good pm and thinks women can have penises, do we?
boris may be bad but I’ll take him any day over that sanctimonious fool.

I'm not pleased but I'm not unhappy either. My main worry is more authoritarian government and I think Boris has been ok-ish when it's come to covid regulations. We've been more free than a lot of other countries and I'm very thankful for that. We could have done much better too.
If there was a better more prominent choice right now, then obviously I'd want them in.

He is awful, but seems to be a prerequisite for the job.

Think we are long overdue a good PM.

@AliceAbsolum Sorry to bother you, but would you mind explaining why you are of the opinion that a few drinks a few years ago don’t matter? I completely agree there are far bigger things going on in the world. But I know people personally whose parents died alone in care homes with them not being allowed to visit. It’s truly not just a few drinks is it? We all made so many sacrifices, I cried so many times over lost moments with relatives who passed shortly after. I am not looking to dig at you, but I just do not understand this opinion and I would like to.

So continually lying to everyone about everything is preferable to being sanctimonious?

OK then.

I will never ùnderstand heynowhey WHY? Farming and fishing haven't benefited from Brexit or Boris. Do they still believe the lies that obviously will impoverish them further? How on earth can anyone, other than Rees Moggs and mates who have moved cash around to massively benefit themselves, believe Brexit n Boris will improve their lives? I don't get it. From down here in the South it looks like a massive 2 fingers to years of Labour, fair enough, but at the cost of making things immeasurably worse for farmers and fishers.

I couldn't care less about drinks during lockdown it's in the past and there's more important things going on. I had a vulnerable parent who I couldn't visit for weeks during lockdown and has since passed away but I still can't get worked up about whether BJ had drinks and a cheeseboard. Who else is going to replace him? They are all just as bad as one another.

I'm pleased the Conservatives have no-one credible in place in the run-up to the next election. I'm not pleased that we are going to be subjected for several months more to Johnson's incompetence, lies and corruption, to say nothing of the dire performance of most of his cabinet.

I want him to stay long enough that the damage he inflicts on the lunatic wing of the Conservative party is more or less terminal. The longer the current acolytes bind themselves to him, the more toxic they will eventually be to the electorate.

Just as Tory remainers were electoral poison in 2019, let's hope the Boris bootlickers (who would never have a job with a moderate, competent or ethical PM) end up being electoral deadweight in 2023/24, and the Conservative party can rethink itself back towards a semblance of economic competence and the occasional pretence that they give a fuck about honesty.

I'm delighted, but not for the Conservative Party.😆

Its under Boris's leadership that we have rape allegations ignored, men in women's prisons and refuge's.... we we would have them in refuge's but the Tories closed most of them down.

Corbyn may have over promised on Broadband but even his policies wouldn't have given us the highest taxation rates in 60 years and JC would not have been so gung ho over Covid or given billions to the pub landlord for PPE nor had parties in Downing street whilst most of us obeyed Johnsons laws.

Starmer was loyal to Corbyn, a trait sadly missing in todays Con party.

So you believe starmer was telling us the truth when he said we should vote for corbyn, then.
thats not a recommendation.

That's going to be the official line, is it? 14-18 months is "years", 18 parties is "some after work drinks", and let's totally forget the fact that all that happened when it was against the laws made by Johnson and while the rest of us weren't allowed to visit our dying spouses, parents and relatives.

Fortunately the electorate isn't as stupid as CCO thinks.

No they are not, plenty of Tories are nothing like that irresponsible idiot.

Who else in the Tory party has fathered umpteen kids from 4 or 5 different women?

Sorry but that alone makes him unfit for high office.

Can’t believe the clown is still hanging on in there. However, had no idea who would have replaced him.

Shy Tory is a thing. Lots of people don’t want to step up and announce they quite like Boris, he made a sensible comment about women and not wanting men in women’s sport, or that he can win landslide elections. They don’t want to be torn to shreds on here. Obviously a lot of people voted for him for loads of different reasons. If Mumsnet majority opinions were truly representative, we’d still be part of the EU and Labour would be in Govt. But it isn’t. So we’re not…

So, where every other government in the West was putting in place restrictions that kept numbers under control, you think we shouldn't have bothered? You cn see from the statistics that the lockdown worked from that point of view. Do you think he should simply have allowed the bodies to pile up even more than they did?

What exactly has Boris done in that context that any other Western leader hasn't done?