Dad in women's loo .

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I have been to the loo in Mc Donald's and was mid flow when a dad walks in with his daughters aged about 4 and 6.He stands waiting while his daughters are using the toilet. I came out and said you are not supposed to be in here.
He said he had to take his daughters to the loo and I told him that he needed to either wait outside or take them the mens. He said they don't need to see that and I told him that he shouldn't be hanging round in women's toilets for any reason. His sense of entitlement gave me the rage so I told a member of staff. I can only imagine how triggering that could be for some women. Intrusive fucker.

Whatever. Luck has nothing to do with realising that the needs of children, in this case, two little girls come before any woman’s “feelings”.

Oh wow. Your ignorance is huge but it makes you very fortunate never to have suffered the trauma many women have experienced.

@Bebbanburg sorry but you really shouldn't be doing that and I would be really annoyed.

Trauma is a very valid and real ‘feeling’.

And this post illustrates perfectly why women don’t want female toilets repurposed as gender neutral toilets so that skanky men can piss on every toilet seat in the nation not just the ones in mens toilets.

At 4 and 6 they are old enough to go to the toilet alone with him waiting at the door. How does he think they cope at school?

Tricky one, but given the young age and sex of the children, I personally wouldn't have had an issue with it. I would have been less happy if he had been taking them into the men's toilets.

God you probably made his children feel so uncomfortable. He immediately explained whilst he was in there and it’s a much better option than the young girls having to so into the men’s and see random men using the urinal. It’s not like a changing room where people could be in a state of undress so I think YABU on this one.

Family toilets are needed, it will stop people using the disabled ones and would be perfect in such situations.

When my DC were young, thirty years ago, a dad with young daughters would ask a nearby mother to take his DD into the Ladies, while he waited outside. It was a fairly rare event, as dads then were less likely to be divorced and on their own with a young child, but they wouldn’t have dreamed of intruding in the women’s loos themselves.

If it was a dad with 2 little girls in the women's toilets then it wouldn't bother me and I wouldn't say anything to anyone about it but if it was just a man on his own with no children, then I would be concerned.

Total over reaction

His poor daughters having to listen to that!

Assuming they don't need assistance, have needs etc .... we don't know

I personally wouldn't have an issue with the dad in this scenario but I understand why some people would. So no, he shouldn't have been in there as some women would have had issues with it.

We do need better family toilets in this country. What I think he should have done (as my dad used to) was wait outside the ladies until a women with kids went in and then asked her to help the 4 year old. I'd have no issue helping a small child use the loo if I was taking mine there already.

Please, you know nothing about the trauma I have suffered. I’m just an adult and won’t use past trauma as an excuse to punish two innocent little girls who need to use a toilet.

Besides probability that a dad with his 4 and 6yr old little girls by his side would attack a woman in the loo is well fucking zero. He’s not a “random man” he has no ill intent. He is there to keep his girls safe. So if I can get a grip, and apply logic to the situation, so can other women.

I would think it’s different at school, there aren’t a lot of random strangers about.

You are utterly unreasonable! Mens toilets have urinals, womens have cubicles. What do you want him to do? To take Little girls to see men urinating? What exactly are you exposing outside of cubicle?

I really don’t get what would be so traumatic for a child to see men using a urinal. We’ve got 2 dd’s and it wouldn’t even cross my oh’s mind to enter a womens toilets with them. I take my ds into the womens. None of my children are scarred from using the other toilets. Men generally are discreet when using a urinal. They’re not just wondering around with their knobs hanging out

Get over yourself! He was there to see to his daughters. 4 and 6 are too young to send them in alone.

Your male privilege is showing.

My DH took our daughters into the mens, he would never have gone into a ladies loo.

Total overreaction OP
He was with his young daughters ffs. Perhaps their mother couldn’t be there due to being unwell or something.
And even if she could, you must’ve really made him feel awkward.

Personally, if he was just waiting for his daughters in a respectful manner, and not leering at women as they came out of the toilets, it wouldn´t bother me at all. Unfortunately, it´s become a sad fact of life that you can´t take it for granted that your kids will be safe when they´re out of your sight.
Some might say the guy´s being a little over-protective, but I don´t think so.

Where do men take a dump if there’s only urinals ? Of course there is a toilet cubicle 🙄

Not ideal, but I can understand why he didn't want to take them in the men's, and they probably are too little to manage alone. He could have asked a woman going in to keep an eye but that would probably have pissed some people off for getting a woman to do his job. If I were him I'd have probably nipped in the disabled loo, but can understand why he might not have felt comfortable doing that. Men should be able to take their young daughters out and be able to find a toilet they can use.

I would never ask someone I didn't know to take my child to the toilet and I wouldn't do it for anyone else's child either unless I knew them and their parents. Opens people up to false allegations.

I think YABU. I have 5 year old twin boys and wouldn’t send them into the mens toilets alone. He most probably didn’t want to be there anymore than you wanted him in there but he was doing the best he could for his children. Your reaction was disproportionate to the situation. If he has been in there on his own it would absolutely make sense but he was supervising his very young children.