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Booing Boris. AIBU to say he deserved it?

662 replies

newnamethanks · 03/06/2022 15:04

I'm not a boo-er, it doesn't come naturally to me. Yet thinking of the photo of the queen, alone, at her husband's funeral contrasted with his snivelling 'apology' for tolerating depraved behaviour in his workplace together with his other contemptuous behaviour over the course of parliament, I'd have found it hard to resist. His presence just seems like adding more insult to injury.

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itsgettingweird · 05/06/2022 17:04

But suggesting someone doesn't bite to obvious wind up posts isn't insulting them or name calling.

Yet you seem to think it is.

And the issue with name calling is you call posters up for doing it and then do it yourself.

I couldn't give a monkeys toss what your position is on this. I do care that you have double standards.

Notonthestairs · 05/06/2022 17:10

"it's all handbags at dawn"
I bet Waitrose Women respond really well to this sort of belittling.

Anyway phrasing is always a choice. Whatever is going on you have a choice how you respond.

I suppose as this week unravels - Standards Committee Investigation and a likely VONC - insults and name calling will increase. There will also be a surge in new posters/name changes to argue in Johnson's defence. It will be a busy summer.

AmaryIlis · 05/06/2022 17:15

badhappening · 05/06/2022 13:00

YABU
Which of the other shallow egotistical twats would you have in power then??
He's a good intelligent leader and there's no one else with a patch on him.
Yes he's not perfect but ffs how long is the news about party-gate going to go on for.

Boris has got the message, we've got the message , let's move on and let him lead.

Well, that would be nice, if he'd shown any trace of leadership ability in the last three years. Leading does not entail breaking the rules your government has made, repeated backtracking only after the batshitness of your policies has been pointed out numerous times, giving fat government contracts to your mates, repeated lying to Parliament and the monarch, to say nothing of constant lies to the electorate.

mbosnz · 05/06/2022 17:18

For me, the more I despise a politician, the more formal I get in what I call them. The 'right honourable' Mr Johnson.

I used to fall into the trap of using diminutives, but realised I just sounded like a maladjusted dickhead. So I try very hard now, to cease and desist. Not always successful, but I do try!

I am very impressed with the British people who took the opportunity to voice their opinions of those who have so much power, and use far too much of it to avoid the consequences of their misuse of it.

RuthsAndEsthersSpindles · 05/06/2022 17:20

According to Petronella Wyatt today, Johnson isn't even capable of leading a conga line.

newnamethanks · 05/06/2022 17:22

Andrew Neil is gently skewering a Tory MP on c4 just now. Andrew is not a bit. Andrew is a Tory.

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AmaryIlis · 05/06/2022 17:23

Thatcher resigned because her Cabinet refused to support her any longer. So she was left with no choice but to resign.

Which is a major factor behind Boris's decision to appoint a cabinet-full of incompetents, nonentities, the barking mad, and those with lots of skeletons in the cupboard. They will none of them withdraw their support, they know it would be the end of their own political careers.

TossCointoYerWitcher · 05/06/2022 17:26

He's a good intelligent leader

Zelenskyy is a good intelligent leader. If Boris had been president of Ukraine, he wouldn't have stayed in Kyiv and lead by example. He'd have hidden in a fridge somewhere over the Polish border, used the charitable donations to decorate said fridge and given the foreign aid to his mates in exchange for military gear that didn't work.

newnamethanks · 05/06/2022 17:28

Paul Scully MP. Doing his best, if you need a laugh, try him out.

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AmaryIlis · 05/06/2022 17:33

SueSaid · 05/06/2022 13:35

'The funny thing is Downing Street and CCHQ don't seem to be able to read the mood of the country. As one can see from their representatives on here.'

The funnier thing is you and your pals on here don't seem able to understand that many people can see through the media smear campaign. The 'Sir Beer Korma was at work you fools!!' story, BJ was at a party < at work with a few work colleagues and a few sad sarnies>.

BJ was the best person to steer us through the last couple of years we all know it. If Sir Beer was running the show we'd be locked down still, wearing masks and bowing and scraping to the EU.

How much time did you spend bowing and scraping to the EU when we were in it? I didn't spend one second on it.

AmaryIlis · 05/06/2022 17:48

TossCointoYerWitcher · 05/06/2022 17:26

He's a good intelligent leader

Zelenskyy is a good intelligent leader. If Boris had been president of Ukraine, he wouldn't have stayed in Kyiv and lead by example. He'd have hidden in a fridge somewhere over the Polish border, used the charitable donations to decorate said fridge and given the foreign aid to his mates in exchange for military gear that didn't work.

Well, quite. This is the man who doesn't even dare to face the likes of Kay Burley or Naga Munchetty on daytime telly.

Volterra · 05/06/2022 17:54

He decided to speak to Justine with questions from MNetters. Did he expect a warm welcome ? If so it showed yet another error of judgment. Assumably he is guided by advisors on which interviews to do, they are clearly out of touch too.

My Stepmother summed it up earlier ‘he’s not sorry, he’s just sorry he got found out’.

AppleandRhubarbTart · 05/06/2022 17:56

Notonthestairs · 05/06/2022 17:10

"it's all handbags at dawn"
I bet Waitrose Women respond really well to this sort of belittling.

Anyway phrasing is always a choice. Whatever is going on you have a choice how you respond.

I suppose as this week unravels - Standards Committee Investigation and a likely VONC - insults and name calling will increase. There will also be a surge in new posters/name changes to argue in Johnson's defence. It will be a busy summer.

I expect you're right.

AmaryIlis · 05/06/2022 18:00

Fwiw if the tories get shot of BJ I won't lose any sleep over it. I just know we were lucky to have him in the last 2 years, we'd have been much worse off if not

Yet, judging from the polls, thousands of former Tory voters don't agree.

I rather doubt that the relatives of those who died in care homes feel very lucky. You only have to look at Johnson's performance as compared with those of most other Western leaders (barring Trump) to see what a nonsense it is to suggest he did a fantastic job and no-one else could have done better.

To recover from this he and his colleagues need to bring back into the fold the likes of my mother. Died in the wool Tory all her life, thinks Thatcher was close to a living saint. She utterly despises Johnson and most of the current cabinet, and nothing he has done in the last two years has improved her perception of him. Unless something radical happens they've lost her vote for ever.

SerendipityJane · 05/06/2022 18:24

To recover from this he and his colleagues need to bring back into the fold the likes of my mother.

Tories don't give two shits about people simply not voting Tory. That's why it's vaguely amusing all the shills on here.

What they do care about is people voting but not voting Tory because they have he power to unseat them. Luckily for them a complicit media pumping the idea that Keir Starmer not only eat babies but throws the bones out of the window can offset that for a bit.

generalh · 05/06/2022 18:24

Good enough for him. Boo!

Ferngreen · 05/06/2022 18:27

I'm hoping that the conservatives were holding back from ousting him until after the Jubilee - fingers crossed

AmaryIlis · 05/06/2022 18:34

SerendipityJane · 05/06/2022 18:24

To recover from this he and his colleagues need to bring back into the fold the likes of my mother.

Tories don't give two shits about people simply not voting Tory. That's why it's vaguely amusing all the shills on here.

What they do care about is people voting but not voting Tory because they have he power to unseat them. Luckily for them a complicit media pumping the idea that Keir Starmer not only eat babies but throws the bones out of the window can offset that for a bit.

Unfortunately for the Tories, my mother lives in a constituency where the Conservatives' main rivals are the Lib Dems, for whom she voted in the recent council elections and will again if things don't change radically. Judging from the council elections, there is definitely strong potential there for the local Tory candidate to be unseated.

Peregrina · 05/06/2022 18:37

Luckily for them a complicit media pumping the idea that Keir Starmer not only eat babies but throws the bones out of the window can offset that for a bit.

When did the Daily Mail start its Beergate campaign against Starmer? Was it after the Tory thrashing at the local elections, and was therefore a desperate response?

If it was before, it didn't work.

Blossomtoes · 05/06/2022 19:20

Peregrina · 05/06/2022 18:37

Luckily for them a complicit media pumping the idea that Keir Starmer not only eat babies but throws the bones out of the window can offset that for a bit.

When did the Daily Mail start its Beergate campaign against Starmer? Was it after the Tory thrashing at the local elections, and was therefore a desperate response?

If it was before, it didn't work.

Three days after polling day. So, as you say, desperate.

jgw1 · 05/06/2022 19:23

It is an important belief of some that everyone should know their place.
So it is that they expect that we will go around doffing our cap to the cabinet no matter what as they are just so much better than us.

Similarly they hold the belief that one should bow and scrape to the EU as they used to make the occasional law and therefore must have been important and better than us plebs.

SerendipityJane · 05/06/2022 19:25

When did the Daily Mail start its Beergate campaign against Starmer?

About a nanosecond after he seemed credible. However as Trump and ScoMo have show, the Mudoch Mastubatory death grip on AUKUS politics is loosening. Maybe there is such a thing as too much bias.

Alternatively, the creeping demographics aren't being kind to the sort of people that are like and support Boris.

jgw1 · 05/06/2022 19:27

Blossomtoes · 05/06/2022 19:20

Three days after polling day. So, as you say, desperate.

And its seen a massive change in Starmer's popularity...

newnamethanks · 06/06/2022 08:06

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Anon778833 · 06/06/2022 08:21

Which poster was it who said on here that ‘something’s afoot’ because their MP had not responded with any support for BJ in their last complaint?

Looks like they were right.