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to be upset my friend hasn’t paid me ?

213 replies

Germanpandalover1987 · 02/06/2022 21:46

I’m a nanny for my friend’s little girl and she was due to pay me yesterday on the 1st but she hasn’t so I think she will pay me next Monday (because of the bank holidays+ weekend) and I’ll get zero apology for the lateness. I won’t ask her because I don’t want things to be awkward between us but I’m upset with her. Its not the first time she doesn’t pay me on time. Would you also be upset or just let it go because she is a friend ? Thank you

OP posts:
yaweeshite · 05/06/2022 18:49

@Chocolateismyfavourite tell her that, moving forward, you will expect to be paid weekly after your visit. She can set up a weekly standing order to prevent "forgetting" piss taking

sootysmum · 05/06/2022 21:20

You should ask your friend to pay you on a regular basis as you have commitments that you have to meet. Your friend is taking advantage of you and your friendship to delay paying you and that isn't fair. Once you have worked for her for 12 weeks then she has to give you a written agreement as an employer showing your conditions including when she pays you. Talk to the CAB.

EinsteinaGogo · 05/06/2022 23:00

OP

Why do you have to invoice your friend if you are an employee?

Your terms, conditions, tax etc should be set up by them.

EinsteinaGogo · 05/06/2022 23:01

Oops -
Ignore me,sorry.

Got mixed up with @Chocolateismyfavourite 🙈

whattodo2019 · 05/06/2022 23:04

You have to tell her that you need paying on time. She should have planned ahead ...

IndyMamaRex · 05/06/2022 23:14

Might be worth having a conversation about her setting up a standing order to pay you? That’s assuming the payment is always the same. Takes away any chance she might forget & everyone understands what is expected

Chocolateismyfavourite · 06/06/2022 08:08

IndyMamaRex it is mostly except when it's a five week month. And say if one of her kids falls I'll and doesn't want me to go type thing

MinnieGirl · 06/06/2022 09:04

Chocolateismyfavourite · 06/06/2022 08:08

IndyMamaRex it is mostly except when it's a five week month. And say if one of her kids falls I'll and doesn't want me to go type thing

Maybe time to look at your contract with her..

I would want to be paid weekly and have the money transferred before I left the house. Also, if she doesn’t want you because the kids are ill, what happens about payment? I would want that all set out very clearly. And definitely a late payment clause….

Chocolateismyfavourite · 06/06/2022 15:25

@MinnieGirl Yeah good idea. I will sort it all out properly. Because, despite all the talk she gave it yesterday, about sorting it out then for me, I still have not got the payment 🤬😩 I've tried ringing again but can't get through so sent yet another message. I've told her I'm not coming for the next clean that's due until I get the May payment..thoroughly p*** off with the whole thing

wentworthinmate · 06/06/2022 15:50

If you get paid for doing something then I’d expect to get paid on time unless by prior arrangement this needs to change.

WombatChocolate · 06/06/2022 20:00

Yes, definitely no further cleaning before payment received. And vital to set up a mire regular and automated payment and to not go again until payment for last clean received.

To be honest, I’d seriously consider binning this client. My next correspondence would be;

’So disappointed that after repeated requests you have still not paid the outstanding monies. As mentioned, I am out of packet and have had direct debits leave my account and have been relying on your payment.
I will not be able to attend gain to clean for you until payment is received and you have set up a standing order to be paid to my account weekly on a Friday. Please arrange this to be avoid to Acc Name, Sort Code, Acc No. This is necessary going forward to to avoid the ongoing difficulty with payment. If you are unable to arrange this, I am afraid I will not be able to continue offering cleaning services. I have other people interested and I hope you understand that I need clients to be reliable about payment. Please confirm when you have paid my outstanding invoice and set up the standing order, with the date you have set it up to start. Thank you.’

I know you’re worried you aren’t going to be paid for the work already done. This is a risk and this person clearly isn’t reliable. That’s why I would insist on a standing order payment and also decide in your own mind that you will walk away and not clean again unless this is sorted out. It is ridiculous and outrageous. They need to realise that it isn’t acceptable.

The only thing that would have me cleaning for them again would be an apology and details of the standing order. An alternative and probably better one, would to request payment by standing order IN ADVANCE. Lots of cleaning forms do this. You require the standing order 48 hours before cleaning is done. No payment, no cleaning. Be firm. If they don’t pay, don’t go. It’s the only way some people will learn…and if you lose them as a client, well a non-paying client is really more trouble than they’re worth anyway.

BorderlineHappy · 06/06/2022 21:38

Chocolateismyfavourite · 06/06/2022 15:25

@MinnieGirl Yeah good idea. I will sort it all out properly. Because, despite all the talk she gave it yesterday, about sorting it out then for me, I still have not got the payment 🤬😩 I've tried ringing again but can't get through so sent yet another message. I've told her I'm not coming for the next clean that's due until I get the May payment..thoroughly p*** off with the whole thing

I think in this case they would need to pay before I clean for them.
So this payment and next payment.

whynotwhatknot · 06/06/2022 21:42

Op maybe working fpor a friend isnt for you-youre to scared to ask and what happens next time shes late and you cant pay your bills

Chocolateismyfavourite · 06/06/2022 21:51

WombatChocolate thank you for all this advice! This is what I will be doing, yes worried I won't get the payment but I need to sort this out. BorderlineHappy yes before had is a very good idea.

HollowTalk · 07/06/2022 17:26

Have you sorted it with her today?

Chocolateismyfavourite · 07/06/2022 17:38

@HollowTalk I came on to ask how the OP is getting on and if you'd sorted it too. ( Also sorry for hijacking the post, it's helped me alot 🙂) I still haven't been paid and phone call unanswered.

SmartCarDriver · 07/06/2022 18:01

Chocolateismyfavourite · 07/06/2022 17:38

@HollowTalk I came on to ask how the OP is getting on and if you'd sorted it too. ( Also sorry for hijacking the post, it's helped me alot 🙂) I still haven't been paid and phone call unanswered.

WTF! So bloody rude!

Chocolateismyfavourite · 07/06/2022 20:11

SmartCarDriver yep, I know! 😞

Chocolateismyfavourite · 09/06/2022 13:04

Update - since I last posted here. I've called twice, no answer, and yesterday sent duplicate emails to both their addresses, where by I sent the invoice as a file and not an attachment, so it defo won't have been rejected, if that is infact what happened. After no contact from her since Sunday, she replied to me this morning apologising, had been off phone a few days, had trusted the husband to send payment, that he was sorry too, was just finishing a work call and would send it over. That was 830. It's now 1pm. No money has been sent 🤯

TheLadyDIdGood · 09/06/2022 14:23

I'd take her to the Small claims court and cancel all future childcare arrangements.

Lizzieismagic · 09/06/2022 14:31

All these cleaners who don't get paid tell them you need paid in advance or you won't be coming... I had one customer who I went to twice a week. After repeated non payment if the cash wasn't there I just left... She got the message. Was about 10 years ago before online was just normal!

Fraaahnces · 09/06/2022 14:37

I would leave it til late Sunday text her and let her know that you can’t afford to turn up on Monday as you rely on this income. You expect payment for services within 24hrs and you will be writing up a new contract that includes a late fee, starting on the date of your next payment due.

FlipFlopShopInHawaii · 09/06/2022 15:57

Chocolateismyfavourite · 09/06/2022 13:04

Update - since I last posted here. I've called twice, no answer, and yesterday sent duplicate emails to both their addresses, where by I sent the invoice as a file and not an attachment, so it defo won't have been rejected, if that is infact what happened. After no contact from her since Sunday, she replied to me this morning apologising, had been off phone a few days, had trusted the husband to send payment, that he was sorry too, was just finishing a work call and would send it over. That was 830. It's now 1pm. No money has been sent 🤯

Oh Chocolate, that's just awful 😖
They've had enough reminders and chances, I really think you need to write this one off and tell her you're firing her as a client.
Enough is enough!

Chocolateismyfavourite · 09/06/2022 17:39

She has paid! Finally! I've contacted and said that'll I'll need payment two days before each visit if I am to decide whether to continue to work for them or not, if money doesn't hit my account 48 hours before hand, I won't be going.

Chocolateismyfavourite · 09/06/2022 17:40

Oh and if they don't agree to it I won't be going