To enjoy Love Island

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I've watched every series, I really enjoy it. It's a great hour each evening.

I know people generally look down on programmes like this but don't actually watch them. I can't be the only one?

This is what my issue is and you put it much better than I did.

It is not the job of a television programme to set an example for kids or teach them right and wrong. It is the job of their parents. It’s also the job of the parents to teach and build self worth, self esteem and emotional resilience in their kids so they are better able to cope with and resist societal pressures that come from everywhere, including places like this and the people that post here.

Judgement is a nasty concept in modern society. It very often is not judgement in the literal sense because to make a judgement requires careful consideration of all of the facts and that really is not what people do. It is actually subjective opinion from a place of ignorance and is used to bring others down whilst elevating the one ‘judging’ to feel superior in their own mind. It is a weak trait in humans and has no positive connotations at all.

@ForestFae

You are so snobby! Not just your posts on this thread but your posts on others too.

I honestly don’t know how you’re gonna cope when your homeschooled kids get to a point where they start going out clubbing, drinking til they puke, getting tattoos/Peircing etc like so many young people do. It’s so far away from your life of foraging and folklore, arts and literature

Lol I’m heavily tattooed and pierced, why would I care if my kids are? And I don’t have an issue with drinking either - don’t make assumptions about people perhaps!

Everyone judges people to some extent. Otherwise no one would have any opinions on anything.

Absolutely this!

Everyone judges people to some extent. Otherwise no one would have any opinions on anything.
Having an opinion and judging someone are two different things.

It's possible to have an opinion on something and not judge others for having a different opinion.

Saying that you personally don't like reality TV because you feel it's unethical is not the same as saying people who watch reality TV are stupid.

Well, yes, of course. But the type of judgement that is often displayed on here is not really a judgement in the literal sense. It’s just opinion based on assumption, a sprinkling of knowledge and the “judger’s” interpretation of that. It’s never really a positive thing as it’s usually designed to make the “judger” feel like they’re better than the one they’re judging and make the one being judged feel bad about themselves. It’s a form of bullying to some extent. It’s not a good trait in people.

I am guilty of this also, but I don’t like it and work hard not to do it. I work especially hard to keep quiet if I recognise my judgement is the type described above.

I don’t get why people care that someone else “judges” them anyway. I said earlier in the thread that I watch anime, there are an absolute load of people who think anime watchers are sad basement dwelling neckbeards. I don’t really give a crap though. If you enjoy something, own it and stop giving a shit what strangers think.

Er, plenty of the contestants apply for love island just after they have completed their degrees

It seems university isn't a breeding ground for this show

Judging a person doesn’t define who they are, it defines who the judger is.

Using negative language to belittle someone and dressing it up as a judgement rather than ignorant opinion is really about the judger, not the one being judged. If you feel good about your parenting, you generally have no interest in judging other people's parenting choices. If you genuinely feel good about your body/appearance, you don't usually go around making fun of other people's weight or appearance. We're hard on, and judge, each other because we're using each other as a launching pad out of our own perceived deficiencies.

I do like watching it
yes I feel sorry for the contestants
as some will become hero’s and popular and do well after
man’s some will become villains and probably ruin their lives
I guess they roll the dice
I just hope they fully understand the risks !!

I “judge” people who watch reality tv because I think it contributes to a net negative to society, and makes the world a worse place. If you think that says something about me, that’s fine. You can think that. But the reason I dislike it is because I think the world doesn’t need more shallow, materialistic people in it and shows like this simply add into the shallow, materialistic culture that seems to be in fashion at the moment.

Well, yes, which is what I have been saying the entire thread.

I absolutely do judge people in certain scenarios though. I judge men who rape women. I judge people who abuse animals and children.

Yes. There’s a clear difference between judging someone for something they can’t help, like appearance or ethnicity or sexuality, and judging someone for their behaviour. The latter is fine, the former is not. Idk why people don’t get that.

I absolutely do judge people in certain scenarios though. I judge men who rape women. I judge people who abuse animals and children.

That is very, very different to judging someone for watching reality TV though isn't it? They aren't comparable.

Yeah, I've been judged on all sorts. I was judged for having a baby at 22 years old. Judged because I decided to stay on benefits for 4 years after having said baby instead of working. Judged because I have tattoos on my hands. Judged because I don't limit the amount of screen time DS has!

People do judge things, not much point in pretending they don't. People will say they don't judge people and then a tattoo thread starts on here and people fall over themselves to say how rough and common tattoos are. Humans are all flawed. I don't really care who judges me on what personally, I'm not going to bother wasting my time trying to get them to change their minds.

You are really patronising and snobby.

Telling me I need to look at my life 😂

It depends whether you believe the behaviour is harmful doesnt it? If you think it’s unethical, and that by watching to it people are contributing, then you don’t see it as something harmless and benign.

If you view it as “just entertainment” then obviously that will seem like an overreaction.

They're different, but I'm just pointing out that anyone who says they don't judge people is probably lying.

I'm not pretending I'm a perfect holy person who doesn't judge anyone, because I'd be a liar and hypocrite if I said that. Just as people probably judge me for all sorts. If you're comfortable with your choices why care if someone is judging you for them?

I have tattoos on my hands as well, I find it funny someone said earlier they thought I’d be upset if my kids ever got a tattoo 🤣 People judge others. What we should be teaching our kids is that if you are happy with yourself and your life, you really shouldn’t care. You shouldn’t need approval or validation from others, let alone total strangers.

I don’t care if someone doesn’t like my tattoos, or my hobbies, or anything really.

Not the case.

Well, the cynic in me would say that's probably because they can't be arsed to look for a real job and would rather choose the quick way to make money. Which is fair play, but a waste of time and money doing a degree that you're not going to use.

How is it not the case?

It is not the job of a television programme to set an example for kids or teach them right and wrong.

Of course it isn't. Nobody said it was. That doesn't mean we can't judge whether the content kids (or adults) consume has a positive, neutral or negative effect on them (or on society in general) or even what people's choice of content says about them. I don't think those are the kinds of judgments we should be trying to avoid making. They are quite important.