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Did ye aye?

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Flymetothezoom · 31/05/2022 09:21

Why do people post this? If you don’t believe a poster, report them. Troll hunting is tedious for everyone. It is as tedious as posters who fancy themselves as a trainee Miss Marple. Cross examining the OP to an absurd degree to try and pick holes in their post. People have the option to report and should leave it at that.

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BIWI · 01/06/2022 10:57

@Flymetothezoom Still not applied to join the MNHQ moderation team?

PAFMO · 01/06/2022 11:05

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 01/06/2022 07:22

Ah, so now you’re not only troll hunting in general, but having a go at me specifically - ironically, without actually saying anything specific.

I think I know all I need to know.

Not troll hunting at all.

The Oliver troll was one of the worst to ever hit MN. Women who had actually lost children posted to offer this piece of shit comfort. And anyone who stepped in to point out that it was a pack of lies was attacked relentlessly by the grief hags.

I don't think you're a troll. I've seen your posts. That's all I need to know. I didn't have you down as someone who thought not liking bereavement trolls was something negative tbf, but we all get our kicks as we see fit.

FlowersareEverything · 01/06/2022 11:07

Can we just say

Aye so you did

instead?

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 01/06/2022 11:36

PAFMO · 01/06/2022 11:05

Not troll hunting at all.

The Oliver troll was one of the worst to ever hit MN. Women who had actually lost children posted to offer this piece of shit comfort. And anyone who stepped in to point out that it was a pack of lies was attacked relentlessly by the grief hags.

I don't think you're a troll. I've seen your posts. That's all I need to know. I didn't have you down as someone who thought not liking bereavement trolls was something negative tbf, but we all get our kicks as we see fit.

The thing is, no one has said they like posters inventing bereavements. No one. All the OP, and anyone who has agreed with her, had said is that they find troll hunting a bit naff and that people who stick to reporting posts.

You have somehow transformed this in your mind into people supporting trolling, even the worst trolls possible - as well as using it as justification to ignore troll hunting guidelines on the basis of ONE thread in 2016. This is insane.

If you have anything to say about my posts, just say it. Otherwise I’ll just assume it’s a tacky, needless dig on your part because I didn’t fall for your ‘Why do you love people who tell lies about poorly little babies?!?!’ routine.

Flymetothezoom · 01/06/2022 13:16

@WomanStanleyWoman2 well said. No one is supporting trolls who invent dead children.

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Flymetothezoom · 01/06/2022 13:19

@MistyFuckingQuigley I was not calling out a troll. She called me mum, so I acted like a mum in an attempt at humour.

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Flymetothezoom · 01/06/2022 13:21

What happened in the end with the grief troll who invented a child?

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PAFMO · 01/06/2022 13:33

Flymetothezoom · 01/06/2022 13:16

@WomanStanleyWoman2 well said. No one is supporting trolls who invent dead children.

Where are you drawing the line then?

That's the thing. Every time (weekly usually,) that this "troll hunters are bad" thread gets started, it's pointed out that trolls aren't just harmless eejits who write about daft made up stuff (see: fat balls, elderly Korean ladies, Spangran, patio doors etc) that we can all spit our tea out at.

There are perverts. Tell us about your teenage daughter's periods/breasts etc.

There are scammers. There have been (in)famous ones over the years who've made a lot of money out of MNers.

There are sickos. Bereavement trolls (Oliver was an example- anyone who has been around long enough can remember at least 20 more) And some of us over the years got to be friends (also in real life) with some real women who lost real children, so saw at first hand the fallout. "I'm dying" trolls. Disabled MNer/children/husband trolls.

If any of the above get caught out by a troll hunter. Good.

PAFMO · 01/06/2022 13:33

Flymetothezoom · 01/06/2022 13:21

What happened in the end with the grief troll who invented a child?

Which of the many?

PAFMO · 01/06/2022 13:34

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 01/06/2022 11:36

The thing is, no one has said they like posters inventing bereavements. No one. All the OP, and anyone who has agreed with her, had said is that they find troll hunting a bit naff and that people who stick to reporting posts.

You have somehow transformed this in your mind into people supporting trolling, even the worst trolls possible - as well as using it as justification to ignore troll hunting guidelines on the basis of ONE thread in 2016. This is insane.

If you have anything to say about my posts, just say it. Otherwise I’ll just assume it’s a tacky, needless dig on your part because I didn’t fall for your ‘Why do you love people who tell lies about poorly little babies?!?!’ routine.

Try googling your username elsewhere in cyberspace.

KettrickenSmiled · 01/06/2022 13:39

Flymetothezoom · 31/05/2022 21:46

@ShirleyPhallus wow you really think you are helping and that you are more astute than all the other MN users.

To be fair, Our @ShirleyPhallus IS a sharp-minded poster OP.

Plus, I agree it's helpful to see some cynical push-back on threads that are getting people frothing on what looks like an invention or pretext. That's free speech, not troll-hunting.

JaneJeffer · 01/06/2022 13:46

There was a bullshit thread with a very recognisable posting style the other day that could have done with a did ye aye. When it disappeared people were posting all worried about the OP who was probably reading along delightedly.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 01/06/2022 13:49

PAFMO · 01/06/2022 13:34

Try googling your username elsewhere in cyberspace.

Now you’re just sounding deranged.

CreamyBruley · 01/06/2022 14:00

The most ridiculous troll on here was someone who was blatantly lying about a load of illnesses she supposedly had. Even when it was completely obvious she was a troll MN were still deleting posts by anyone who called it out for the crap it was. Bonkers.

Flymetothezoom · 01/06/2022 14:17

@pafmo why can’t the hunter just report the thread? Why do they have to post how clever they are on the thread?

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BenCoopersSupportWren · 01/06/2022 14:50

CreamyBruley · 31/05/2022 09:43

The Mumsnet attitude of troll hunters being worse than trolls has massively contributed to its decline. The vast majority of threads are very obviously trolling bollocks.

Yep.

Begging threads, bereavement trolls, benefit froth-stirrers, wanking Herberts...the site is full of them and other trolls. If a few well-meaning but gullible posters are alerted that perhaps this is not the thread to share your own heartrending story of loss or your experience of your daughter needing a 36DD bra at age 13 (it's always 36DD 🙄) by a well-placed "did ye, aye?" while MN get round to checking it out, then so much the better.

KettrickenSmiled · 01/06/2022 14:56

Flymetothezoom · 01/06/2022 14:17

@pafmo why can’t the hunter just report the thread? Why do they have to post how clever they are on the thread?

Flyme, PP could just as easily say "why can't people just report the thread? Why do they have to post how clever they are by making their own separate thread?"

Why is it bothering you so much?
Can you not just report as you wish, & scroll past anything that annoys you?

Did ye aye?
WomanStanleyWoman2 · 01/06/2022 15:06

BenCoopersSupportWren · 01/06/2022 14:50

Yep.

Begging threads, bereavement trolls, benefit froth-stirrers, wanking Herberts...the site is full of them and other trolls. If a few well-meaning but gullible posters are alerted that perhaps this is not the thread to share your own heartrending story of loss or your experience of your daughter needing a 36DD bra at age 13 (it's always 36DD 🙄) by a well-placed "did ye, aye?" while MN get round to checking it out, then so much the better.

But if someone believes the OP’s posts are genuine, why do you think a random stranger’s cynicism will change their mind? You really think you can ride in on your white charger of truth and everyone will have a blinding flash of realisation?

I’ve spotted dozens of trolls in my time. I can’t remember even one occasion when I’ve believed a poster was genuine, but had my mind changed by someone else.

Flymetothezoom · 01/06/2022 15:08

@KettrickenSmiled or posters on Mumsnet could follow the rules of Mumsnet. You seem very against that. Do rules not apply to you?

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Ihatethenewlook · 01/06/2022 15:12

ShirleyPhallus · 31/05/2022 22:01

How on earth do you know who has reported a post or not, unless you work at MNHQ?!

Because I’ve seen loads of threads where people have posted ‘reported’ before it’s been taken down

KettrickenSmiled · 01/06/2022 15:13

Mumsnet rules? Nope - I don't recognise the "rules" of an organisation that survives on free content provided by PP but has a highly contradictory & selective approach to enforcing PP speech.
If MN need to ban me for calling someone a lying CF, so be it.

LoisWilkersonslastnerve · 01/06/2022 15:38

In my neck of the woods, Did ye, Aye? Means you think someone is showing off. A chewy face is for people talking pish.
Like this 🤨 anyhoo....
Trolls are fair game imho

grapewines · 01/06/2022 15:48

If MN need to ban me for calling someone a lying CF, so be it.

Absolutely this.

KettrickenSmiled · 01/06/2022 16:11

Flymetothezoom · 01/06/2022 15:08

@KettrickenSmiled or posters on Mumsnet could follow the rules of Mumsnet. You seem very against that. Do rules not apply to you?

I asked why it bothers you so much but you didn't seem to know.
You seem very against rules-sceptics. Do rules apply to a lot of your own life?

Flymetothezoom · 01/06/2022 16:24

@KettrickenSmiled I would
rather a hundred trolls were indulged than one person refused help because of over eager troll hunters.

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