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Just shouted at partner's client from hell

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Dygger · 20/05/2022 13:26

Name changed for this, as my partner knows my usual posting name. Sorry, this is a massive post.

My partner runs a company in an area of the construction industry. The work is usually for high-end new builds, usually on sites with professional project managers supervising. However, he was persuaded by one of his friends to quote for a local renovation project. He was quite pleased when the clients phoned and told him he hadn't got the job because he was so expensive (he's not). They later came back to him, unapologetic, and asked him to do the work. He initially said no, but he was cajoled back into the project by his friend.

It's been a nightmare. The project has been very poorly run and the clients have changed their minds about everything time and again. He is used to a certain degree of this, and can normally take the pressure, but they've got a particularly emotive, distrustful attitude that drives him mad. He's off-loaded much more than normal onto me. He's also fallen out with the friend who got him involved in the project and that's brought him down. Every bill is queried, with the implication that he is ripping them off. Every solution and product he recommends is questioned and queried and other, inappropriate, options suggested.

The project has finally limped to an end. Two months ago my partner took over the last, hard-to-get-hold-of component which will allow them to control the heating, lighting and ventilation remotely. The wall where they wanted the control panel and a one of the sensors still hadn't been plastered (their last plasterer walked out on them) so he left the two unfitted components in their boxes with the client. When they called him back after the plastering had been done, the parts couldn't be found. They accused him of taking the parts away with him. He didn't. None of the team ever remove paid-for components from a secure site. My partner says he gave them the boxes and they put them on a windowsill. The client denies this. They want him to pay for replacements. £600. My partner said no. They've phoned him several times, whinging and moaning and he has said stood firm and sent them an email telling them to order and pay for replacements and that until they confirm they've done this, he won't be answering their calls.

The wife just turned up on our doorstep, wanting to speak to him. He isn't here and I told her this. She then started on the 'We need to come to an agreement on this, we don't see why we should have to pay twice for parts your partner lost. He needs to replace them.'

At which point I exploded. I told her that he hadn't lost them, they had. That the job has been a nightmare but he's continued because he's a professional with a first class reputation. That their delays and unreasonable demands and the hundreds of hours of time they've spent on the phone mean that he's already lost money on this job and won't be laying out a penny more. She stood there and said 'It's been very hard for us' and I heard myself yelling 'I don't care! Go away, buy the components yourselves and he'll finish the job for you and then we can have nothing ever to do with each other again.' She argued for a while and I told her I had nothing more to say and I was going to shut the door on her.

After she'd gone I called my partner expecting him to say thank you and to have a laugh about it. Instead he said he should have just bought the replacement components and said nothing to me about it. It might have cost him £700 but at least it wouldn't have ended up with me shouting at her.

I now feel nearly as angry with him as I do with her. Practically every day for the last year I've had to listen to him complaining about her or her husband. They've phoned in the evenings and at weekends. He's had innumerable sleepless nights. He nearly lost one of his employees, who was so upset by the way he was treated by these people that he wanted to leave in order not to have to go back to the property.

AIBU?

OP posts:
Searchfornessie · 20/05/2022 13:29

Wow, yes you were unreasonable. Do you always step in and fight his battles for him?

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 13:29

I think so. She’s his client, not yours, and if word gets round about how you reacted it could negatively affect his professional reputation.

The right thing to do would have been to take a message and pass it on to him.

Flopisfatteningbingforchristmas · 20/05/2022 13:29

I think you were unreasonable to get involved with your husband business unless ai missed the bit were it is a joint business?

DenholmElliot · 20/05/2022 13:30

She shouldn't have come to your house how did she know where you live?

But yeah, looks bad standing on your doorstep shouting at a customer 😕

notanothertakeaway · 20/05/2022 13:31

I think you were unprofessional to shout at your DP's client, however difficult

Canyouengineerfreespeech · 20/05/2022 13:32

Losing your temper and ranting at somebody might be cathartic - but I have never come across a case where it has been helpful in the longer term.

MayorDusty · 20/05/2022 13:32

YANBU but neither is he.
Sometimes even though it isn't the fair thing you have to do the best thing.
You want to get rid of these nutters for good. It's going to cost you £700. It's worth it to him to be rid of the nightmare.

grapewines · 20/05/2022 13:32

You had no business getting involved like that.

QuebecBagnet · 20/05/2022 13:34

I don’t think you were being unreasonable. It’s not as if you sought her out. She came to your home and started the conversation with you.

maybe your dh is just upset that you’ve been dragged into it.

Usernameismyname01 · 20/05/2022 13:34

Yes you are BU!

This is his job, his work. You dont interfer with that, as he shouldnt interfer with your work and clients.

As his partner, you are there to for him to sound off at, hear his woes and offer advise, you are not there to act on your own impulses regarding his work

Saying that - i do get it from your point of view, but you should have held your tongue and not engage - nothing to do with you.

Jeansgoals · 20/05/2022 13:35

Good on you!!! Enough is enough! She overstepped by turning up on your doorstep. Hopefully she'll fuck off now.

BlancmanegeBunny · 20/05/2022 13:35

I understand why you did it, you have been taking the heat from your DH and this tipped you over the edge.........BUT it wasn't your place to say anything to her, she is his client.

purpleboy · 20/05/2022 13:36

Your fine op, she came to your house. You told her your DH wasn't there, she then decided to involve you by continuing the conversation, and trying to get you to resolve it. They are twats and twats need to be called out on their twatty behavior.
Your DH wasn't prepared to deal with he was ignoring it, so you did, but only because she came to your door, you didn't go looking for it.

WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 20/05/2022 13:37

This thread is also incredibly outing which could also be very detrimental to your DH's business.

Of course you will say you have changed details, but it's obvious.

Dygger · 20/05/2022 13:38

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 13:29

I think so. She’s his client, not yours, and if word gets round about how you reacted it could negatively affect his professional reputation.

The right thing to do would have been to take a message and pass it on to him.

It won't affect his professional reputation. He has 25+ years of experience and gets work mainly via developers and architects. He's turning down projects all the time — more work than he can manage. Any of his professional contacts would just laugh.

I think the days of treating construction specialists like shit are long gone. If you want someone who knows what they're doing and will do a good job, you need to treat them like the professionals they are.

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JesusInTheCabbageVan · 20/05/2022 13:39

I disagree. If OP had gone round their house or even just bumped into her in the street, but this woman chose to bring her grievances to the DH's home, and persisted in badgering a family member who had absolutely nothing to do with the build. Her behaviour was completely inappropriate and it sounds like she would benefit massively from being told to fuck off once in a while.

Babdoc · 20/05/2022 13:39

That’s possibly the first time anyone has told the entitled twat some home truths!
It may be unprofessional, OP, but well done. I expect all your DH’s tradesmen will be cheering you on!

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 20/05/2022 13:39

If OP had gone round their house or even just bumped into her in the street it would be different*.

HerRoyalNotness · 20/05/2022 13:39

The client got the OP involved. Good on you for standing up for yourselves. They would like nightmare clients

DDivaStar · 20/05/2022 13:40

I completely get why you did it, but you shouldn't have got involved. In all honestly it would probably been better to make clear he hadn't lost the items but just bought them to get rid of the nightmare clients !

DoubleTweenQueen · 20/05/2022 13:40

I don't think you were unreasonable.
The client should not be appearing at your private home, and the situation sounds horribly difficult and stressful.

Both parties put you in a very difficult position. Not your fault.

Philisophigal · 20/05/2022 13:40

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Dygger · 20/05/2022 13:41

As his partner, you are there to for him to sound off at, hear his woes and offer advise, you are not there to act on your own impulses regarding his work

Did you just fly in from the early 19th-century or something? I think even Jane Austen might have something to say about that.

OP posts:
SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 13:43

Dygger · 20/05/2022 13:38

It won't affect his professional reputation. He has 25+ years of experience and gets work mainly via developers and architects. He's turning down projects all the time — more work than he can manage. Any of his professional contacts would just laugh.

I think the days of treating construction specialists like shit are long gone. If you want someone who knows what they're doing and will do a good job, you need to treat them like the professionals they are.

It seems your husband doesn’t feel the same way.If you can’t control yourself then you really need to just pass a message along to him.

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 13:45

Dygger · 20/05/2022 13:41

As his partner, you are there to for him to sound off at, hear his woes and offer advise, you are not there to act on your own impulses regarding his work

Did you just fly in from the early 19th-century or something? I think even Jane Austen might have something to say about that.

Why are you trying to make this a sexist thing? It’s the same no matter whose client it is, his or yours; no-one wants a ranting partner shouting at their clients. It’s unprofessional.