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Just shouted at partner's client from hell

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Dygger · 20/05/2022 13:26

Name changed for this, as my partner knows my usual posting name. Sorry, this is a massive post.

My partner runs a company in an area of the construction industry. The work is usually for high-end new builds, usually on sites with professional project managers supervising. However, he was persuaded by one of his friends to quote for a local renovation project. He was quite pleased when the clients phoned and told him he hadn't got the job because he was so expensive (he's not). They later came back to him, unapologetic, and asked him to do the work. He initially said no, but he was cajoled back into the project by his friend.

It's been a nightmare. The project has been very poorly run and the clients have changed their minds about everything time and again. He is used to a certain degree of this, and can normally take the pressure, but they've got a particularly emotive, distrustful attitude that drives him mad. He's off-loaded much more than normal onto me. He's also fallen out with the friend who got him involved in the project and that's brought him down. Every bill is queried, with the implication that he is ripping them off. Every solution and product he recommends is questioned and queried and other, inappropriate, options suggested.

The project has finally limped to an end. Two months ago my partner took over the last, hard-to-get-hold-of component which will allow them to control the heating, lighting and ventilation remotely. The wall where they wanted the control panel and a one of the sensors still hadn't been plastered (their last plasterer walked out on them) so he left the two unfitted components in their boxes with the client. When they called him back after the plastering had been done, the parts couldn't be found. They accused him of taking the parts away with him. He didn't. None of the team ever remove paid-for components from a secure site. My partner says he gave them the boxes and they put them on a windowsill. The client denies this. They want him to pay for replacements. £600. My partner said no. They've phoned him several times, whinging and moaning and he has said stood firm and sent them an email telling them to order and pay for replacements and that until they confirm they've done this, he won't be answering their calls.

The wife just turned up on our doorstep, wanting to speak to him. He isn't here and I told her this. She then started on the 'We need to come to an agreement on this, we don't see why we should have to pay twice for parts your partner lost. He needs to replace them.'

At which point I exploded. I told her that he hadn't lost them, they had. That the job has been a nightmare but he's continued because he's a professional with a first class reputation. That their delays and unreasonable demands and the hundreds of hours of time they've spent on the phone mean that he's already lost money on this job and won't be laying out a penny more. She stood there and said 'It's been very hard for us' and I heard myself yelling 'I don't care! Go away, buy the components yourselves and he'll finish the job for you and then we can have nothing ever to do with each other again.' She argued for a while and I told her I had nothing more to say and I was going to shut the door on her.

After she'd gone I called my partner expecting him to say thank you and to have a laugh about it. Instead he said he should have just bought the replacement components and said nothing to me about it. It might have cost him £700 but at least it wouldn't have ended up with me shouting at her.

I now feel nearly as angry with him as I do with her. Practically every day for the last year I've had to listen to him complaining about her or her husband. They've phoned in the evenings and at weekends. He's had innumerable sleepless nights. He nearly lost one of his employees, who was so upset by the way he was treated by these people that he wanted to leave in order not to have to go back to the property.

AIBU?

OP posts:
Maëlys · 20/05/2022 13:45

I don’t blame you at all for losing it with her. It sounds like an extremely stressy situation with the hassle they’ve caused your DH and then for her to show up on your doorstep and harangue you, it might not have been ideal for you to respond the way you did but it was an understandable reaction.

spuddy56 · 20/05/2022 13:46

Definitely not unreasonable. If he doesn't want you to be involved he needs to make that clear to his clients. They turned up at your door and wouldn't leave!!! He should make sure they have only work based contact numbers and offices, as well as moan less about them at home if he wants that boundary.

JuneOsborne · 20/05/2022 13:46

Turning up on your doorstep and then trying to talk to you about it was what was wrong. So you reacted.

Here's an idea, nightmare client, don't go round to the home of your contractor and start telling the wife of the contractor all the woes. What did she expect you to do? Say ok, I'll make sure DH orders those parts? As if.

But maybe next time op (if there ever is a next time!) Just say that you'd prefer it if they kept to emails/phonecalls in business hours.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 20/05/2022 13:47

I dont think yabu. She turned up uninvited (and this being MN is a clear violation of the 11th commandment) at his HOME and involved the mans dp! Op has no obligation to her.

Dygger · 20/05/2022 13:47

DDivaStar · 20/05/2022 13:40

I completely get why you did it, but you shouldn't have got involved. In all honestly it would probably been better to make clear he hadn't lost the items but just bought them to get rid of the nightmare clients !

But he runs a business. He has to make a profit to pay salaries and NI and pensions for everyone. He's not a charity.

I honestly think some of you here are due a wake-up call. The days of any kind of construction worker being easily available and prepared to give you hours and hours of advice and suggestions for free is over. If you want good people, you treat them well. You don't go looking for freebies.

OP posts:
Chica10 · 20/05/2022 13:48

Ok, you shouldn’t have shouted at her. But, she absolutely shouldn’t have gone to your house to sort out her husband’s issue with your husband. Sounds like you came to the end of your patience with whole thing and just snapped. I don’t condone it but I guess you just reached your breaking point.

Topgub · 20/05/2022 13:48

Yanbu.

Id be raging at your oh too.

Knittingchamp · 20/05/2022 13:48

You're human OP and I'd draw the line at a year of moaning followed by said difficult client literally turning up ON MY DOORSTEP too. Something's got to give sometime. It's ridiculous. Someone has to tell them sometime that enough is enough.

Badbadbunny · 20/05/2022 13:49

Flopisfatteningbingforchristmas · 20/05/2022 13:29

I think you were unreasonable to get involved with your husband business unless ai missed the bit were it is a joint business?

The client's wife started it by turning up at the OP's home and wanting to talk business, rather than dealing directly with the husband. She got what she deserved to be honest.

Johnnysgirl · 20/05/2022 13:50

After she'd gone I called my partner expecting him to say thank you and to have a laugh about it
Seriously? You really thought he'd find it amusing?

torquewench · 20/05/2022 13:50

If someone turned up uninvited at my house, not my partners business address, with her sort attitude, I'd do the same tbh. Some people are pisstakers and need putting back in their place.

Dailywalk · 20/05/2022 13:50

I get why you did it but I can see why your DH is annoyed too. Clients sound very U too but some clients are. My job sounds similar job to your DH and have same issues. And working for friends is ALWAYS harder. They always expect a lot more and it does ruin friendships.

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 13:50

Dygger · 20/05/2022 13:47

But he runs a business. He has to make a profit to pay salaries and NI and pensions for everyone. He's not a charity.

I honestly think some of you here are due a wake-up call. The days of any kind of construction worker being easily available and prepared to give you hours and hours of advice and suggestions for free is over. If you want good people, you treat them well. You don't go looking for freebies.

You really don’t get this do you?

No-one’s saying you were wrong because the client was right, they are telling you that you are wrong because you were emotional, impolite, unprofessional but most importantly because it is not your client.

To he honest, from how you are reacting to polite disagreement on here I can see why your husband doesn’t want his clients speaking to you. Even when they are in the wrong you need to do better than you did.

orangeisthenewpuce · 20/05/2022 13:51

A bit unreasonable but it serves the stupid cow right.

LynneBenfield · 20/05/2022 13:51

YABU, annoying as clients may be it was nothing to do with you and was between your partner and his customer. It was none of your business and made your DH look unprofessional in front of a client. You should’ve just taken a deep breath and told her that she needed to discuss any issues directly with your husband and you’d let him know she’d called.

Ihatethenewlook · 20/05/2022 13:53

Yanbu. She came to your house expecting to start a fight, and she got one. All I’d be worried about now is what proof do you have that the parts were left? These sound the type to take you to court over it

Stompythedinosaur · 20/05/2022 13:53

I think the way you've acted is probably professionally embarrassing for your dp.

Of course you should have behaved in such a way to a client!

luckylavender · 20/05/2022 13:53

Wow! I would be FURIOUS in your partner's shoes. You could just have fatally damaged his reputation.

Maëlys · 20/05/2022 13:54

To he honest, from how you are reacting to polite disagreement on here I can see why your husband doesn’t want his clients speaking to you

@SlightlyGeordieJohn What’s wrong with the way OP has responded? 😕

GoldenPineapple88 · 20/05/2022 13:54

Yikes. I understand your reaction to this awful client, but really and truly OP you should have stayed out of it.

I fully understand why your husband is so upset, I would be mortified if my husband shouted at one of my clients like that - even one of my horrible clients!

But then I suppose she had no business turning up at your home. She sounds like an absolute nightmare.

coffeecupsandfairylights · 20/05/2022 13:55

Badbadbunny · 20/05/2022 13:49

The client's wife started it by turning up at the OP's home and wanting to talk business, rather than dealing directly with the husband. She got what she deserved to be honest.

Then OP should have said "This is nothing to do with me - you need to speak to DP" - and shut the door - not shouted at the client!

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 13:55

Maëlys · 20/05/2022 13:54

To he honest, from how you are reacting to polite disagreement on here I can see why your husband doesn’t want his clients speaking to you

@SlightlyGeordieJohn What’s wrong with the way OP has responded? 😕

She’s telling people that they “need a wake-up call” if they disagree with her. It’s the partner I feel sorry for here.

ComDummings · 20/05/2022 13:55

See usually I would say YABU - my partner runs a business and I keep out of it.
However, the client turned up at your home. So the fact you ended up involved is totally
on her. She crossed a huge line there and got what she deserved.
I do also see why your husband is unhappy with you. All in all, everyone needs to cool off and when it’s all calm a resolution can be reached.

Youseethethingis1 · 20/05/2022 13:56

Nope, you choose to come to my home and start laying in to my husband don't be surprised when my temper flares and you get an earful back.
You can't be "unprofessional" if it's not your business/client/job.
You can't have been "unreasonable to get involved" if you were minding your own business in your own home and trouble literally came to your door.
Personally, I regard it as a form of public service when people like this get a good old dose of harsh reality.

CupidStunt22 · 20/05/2022 13:56

grapewines · 20/05/2022 13:32

You had no business getting involved like that.

When the customer comes to OP's house, she's already involved.

I would have told her to fuck off.