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Just shouted at partner's client from hell

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Dygger · 20/05/2022 13:26

Name changed for this, as my partner knows my usual posting name. Sorry, this is a massive post.

My partner runs a company in an area of the construction industry. The work is usually for high-end new builds, usually on sites with professional project managers supervising. However, he was persuaded by one of his friends to quote for a local renovation project. He was quite pleased when the clients phoned and told him he hadn't got the job because he was so expensive (he's not). They later came back to him, unapologetic, and asked him to do the work. He initially said no, but he was cajoled back into the project by his friend.

It's been a nightmare. The project has been very poorly run and the clients have changed their minds about everything time and again. He is used to a certain degree of this, and can normally take the pressure, but they've got a particularly emotive, distrustful attitude that drives him mad. He's off-loaded much more than normal onto me. He's also fallen out with the friend who got him involved in the project and that's brought him down. Every bill is queried, with the implication that he is ripping them off. Every solution and product he recommends is questioned and queried and other, inappropriate, options suggested.

The project has finally limped to an end. Two months ago my partner took over the last, hard-to-get-hold-of component which will allow them to control the heating, lighting and ventilation remotely. The wall where they wanted the control panel and a one of the sensors still hadn't been plastered (their last plasterer walked out on them) so he left the two unfitted components in their boxes with the client. When they called him back after the plastering had been done, the parts couldn't be found. They accused him of taking the parts away with him. He didn't. None of the team ever remove paid-for components from a secure site. My partner says he gave them the boxes and they put them on a windowsill. The client denies this. They want him to pay for replacements. £600. My partner said no. They've phoned him several times, whinging and moaning and he has said stood firm and sent them an email telling them to order and pay for replacements and that until they confirm they've done this, he won't be answering their calls.

The wife just turned up on our doorstep, wanting to speak to him. He isn't here and I told her this. She then started on the 'We need to come to an agreement on this, we don't see why we should have to pay twice for parts your partner lost. He needs to replace them.'

At which point I exploded. I told her that he hadn't lost them, they had. That the job has been a nightmare but he's continued because he's a professional with a first class reputation. That their delays and unreasonable demands and the hundreds of hours of time they've spent on the phone mean that he's already lost money on this job and won't be laying out a penny more. She stood there and said 'It's been very hard for us' and I heard myself yelling 'I don't care! Go away, buy the components yourselves and he'll finish the job for you and then we can have nothing ever to do with each other again.' She argued for a while and I told her I had nothing more to say and I was going to shut the door on her.

After she'd gone I called my partner expecting him to say thank you and to have a laugh about it. Instead he said he should have just bought the replacement components and said nothing to me about it. It might have cost him £700 but at least it wouldn't have ended up with me shouting at her.

I now feel nearly as angry with him as I do with her. Practically every day for the last year I've had to listen to him complaining about her or her husband. They've phoned in the evenings and at weekends. He's had innumerable sleepless nights. He nearly lost one of his employees, who was so upset by the way he was treated by these people that he wanted to leave in order not to have to go back to the property.

AIBU?

OP posts:
Maëlys · 20/05/2022 13:57

Wow! I would be FURIOUS in your partner's shoes. You could just have fatally damaged his reputation.

@luckylavender He’s a long established tradesman with a solid client base. He’s not reliant on private customers like this woman. The effect on his business will be minimal.

Iamnotamermaid · 20/05/2022 13:57

Understand your frustration and the need to vent. And the wife should not have turned up at your door. But you should not have shouted at her, as tempting as it would have been.

This is between them and your DP. If he was not at home to discuss the door and conversation should have been closed. If anyone is entitled to should at client from it is your partner as it is his business.

BritInUS1 · 20/05/2022 13:57

She was BU turning up at your door

However, it's not your client, you were very U to speak to her the way that you did. How would you feel if your husband went in to your work and shouted and screamed at somebody who had upset you?

I hope you are going to apologise to her

rnsaslkih · 20/05/2022 13:58

I think what you did was fine. The client has been rude and difficult so she more than deserved this.

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 13:58

CupidStunt22 · 20/05/2022 13:56

When the customer comes to OP's house, she's already involved.

I would have told her to fuck off.

I do wonder if the people responding like this are the same ones complaining at not having enough money to cover the bills.

TheHatinaCat · 20/05/2022 13:58

Whatever they have done and said, you didn't handle it very well. It's not your battle to fight. I would have been very annoyed if I was your DH.

HipsterCoffeeShop · 20/05/2022 14:00

I get what everyone is saying about he's a professional and you shouldn't speak to his clients like that but she turned up at your house and then wouldn't listen when you tried to explain he wasn't available.

That is crossing a line, big time. It might have been better to keep your mouth shut but honestly she deserved it after the way they have behaved. People behave like this because others allow them to. Good on you OP.

TeaStory · 20/05/2022 14:00

Good one you. If someone came to my door, refused to leave and accused my husband of theft they'd get an earful from me too.

If the clients and your husband didn't want you involved, they shouldn't have involved you!

BorderlineHappy · 20/05/2022 14:01

You were not unreasonable to react like that.
She came to your door and wouldn't leave.

Also your DH should have your back.
He's the one that moaned for a whole year to you.
Tell him you don't want to know his work problems from now on.

Maëlys · 20/05/2022 14:01

She’s telling people that they “need a wake-up call” if they disagree with her.

@SlightlyGeordieJohn And? That’s pretty mild for MN.

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 14:03

Maëlys · 20/05/2022 14:01

She’s telling people that they “need a wake-up call” if they disagree with her.

@SlightlyGeordieJohn And? That’s pretty mild for MN.

Yes, there are some quite unpleasant people who post here.

ColadhSamh · 20/05/2022 14:03

YANBU. The woman turned up on your doorstep uninvited, invading your personal space and despite being told your partner wasn't there confronted you. What did she expect? How dare she! She knows nothing of you or your partner's home situation. Well done you. She might reflect on her own behaviour but somehow I doubt it.

Intrigueddotcom · 20/05/2022 14:03

You sound on a knife edge. Unable to control yourself.

some builds are bloody awful from start to finish. This was one. Won’t be the last.

you need to get yourself some tactics in place to draw on when you’re stressed, because if you behaved like this around children… bloody frightening

CousCousSalad · 20/05/2022 14:03

You seem to think that people saying you were being unreasonable are saying the client is therefore being reasonable.

They are wrong in how you say they've treated your husband - that does not make you shouting at her reasonable. You say he's not in, you shut the door, and if she doesn't leave you tell her you will call the police. You don't shout abuse at her.

Intrigueddotcom · 20/05/2022 14:04

Sounds like your partner’s business needs a complaints department

RaspberryChouxBuns · 20/05/2022 14:05

How bloody embarrassing for your DP, now he's going 5o have to apologise on your behalf since you decided to act like a fish wife.

DollyTots · 20/05/2022 14:05

If my husband’s client turned up on my doorstep, uninvited, unexpected and trying to force a resolution via me, I would have also been very unimpressed. Home and work life are separate, you don’t approach people there, especially to deal with a conflict.

I wouldn’t have gone into specifics about the situation or whether I agreed or didn’t but I would absolutely have made it clear that they weren’t welcome, were entitled to think that this is an appropriate way to deal with the situation and that they shouldn’t bring their issues to me or my home again.

They made this your problem when they crossed the line and turned up at your door.

gregdaviesiswonderful · 20/05/2022 14:06

Client was totally wrong but you were massively unreasonable to do this...and even worse to expect a thank you!

Being self employed comes with a lot of shit but a reputation is worth its weight in gold. And yes, even the best 25 year old reputation can be tarnished by the most up to date reviews mentioning being shouted at by someone's partner!

Oblomov22 · 20/05/2022 14:06

Losing your temper and shouting is not ok. Ever. You should've just remained calm and politely told her that your husband didn't lose the items they were left and that you suggest they look at the security cameras (which they obviously won't have one). But that your husband isn't here, but he will have to deal with it / you can't on his behalf.

pussycatlickinglollyices · 20/05/2022 14:06

YANBU

To quote a thread I read yesterday "she's mad as box of frogs, you might want to consider adding a twat tax, just in case, because I think we'll earn it"

Did your DP do this? ^

Oblomov22 · 20/05/2022 14:06

You should've very calmly and politely told her that you thought it was inappropriate that she turn up to your house unannounced.

AryaStarkWolf · 20/05/2022 14:06

Yes YWVBU, it's not your place to deal with his customers like that

Intrigueddotcom · 20/05/2022 14:06

*I now feel nearly as angry with him as I do with her.*flipping heck op. You are scary!

and he’s lost employees because they were “upset”

oh… diddums. Working in the construction industry and so “upset” they hand in their notice

Walkingthedog46 · 20/05/2022 14:06

I don’t agree that OP shouldn’t have got involved. (Maybe not lost her temper (easier said than done though in the circumstances)) but the client had no business turning up at her private address and trying to discuss the project with her instead of going into the professional’s office to discuss it with them. By doing so, she made it the OP’s business. Maybe the woman thought OP would be a soft touch.

Harridan1981 · 20/05/2022 14:09

You're both wrong tbh. The client was wrong for bringing you in to it, you were wrong to react the way you did. Can you not disagree with someone without shouting and swearing?

If you're happy you did the right thing, your husband is entitled to his opinion too. Which given it is his business is fine.

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