Control Your Kids

[Time2ChangeName]

Children running around in pubs. Personally I never let mine as you have people walking with drinks and food. The pub I’m in has a massive park opposite, take them there to burn off their excess energy after you’ve finished your meal instead of them zooming past me at 100mph. AIBU?

[orchidsunrise]

Yes

[ghostyslovesheets]

no

[youdothemaths]

Are those who are voting YABU doing so because they think children should be allowed to behave like this? Apart from being unpleasant for other people, it's unsafe as the OP has pointed out.

[AccessibleVoid]

The real issue here is that controlling kids is not a one off thing if a family are in a bit of a discipline rut it seems a bit unreasonable to say their entire life needs to be put on hold until they've figured it out. Nor are all kids as easily controlled as others, some children are just inherently extremely stubborn, oppositional or impulsive - again, seems a bit unfair that just because someone ended up with a naturally impulsive kid they should never get to go out. Running in a pub isn't the best thing for a kid to be doing of course but certainly they could be doing a lot worse - the "bad behaviour" you see might be a kid on their best behaviour. If you don't want to deal with pretty benign child behaviours go somewhere not frequented by families or go out in the evening when children are in bed.

[ProclivityForPyrotechnics]

There's a pub near us that does amazing food. Last year a child ran into a waitress and she poured hot gravy all over him. She was also burned and she broke her leg in the fall. There are signs everywhere saying 'control your kids we serve hot food'

The family are suing the pub for injuring their child. It's a massive thing in the village. No one is in support of them.

It was their fault their kid got hurt

[AllThingsServeTheBeam]

Yeah it really annoys me when people let their kids run riot in pubs. Mine were never allowed to leave the table unless to go to the loo with an adult.

[Mrsjayy]

I voted wrong 😕 but you are right letting kids run about in a busy place is annoying and dangerous!

[Ikeptgoing]

@ProclivityForPyrotechnics

There's a pub near us that does amazing food. Last year a child ran into a waitress and she poured hot gravy all over him. She was also burned and she broke her leg in the fall. There are signs everywhere saying 'control your kids we serve hot food'

The family are suing the pub for injuring their child. It's a massive thing in the village. No one is in support of them.

It was their fault their kid got hurt

The family are lucky pub hasn't done a child safeguarding report for neglect of their child, taking to pub failing to supervise child such that the child got hurt.

Now pub has bane abs details of pub, hoping there's enough witnesses what could do multiple safeguarding neglect reports to local CSD. Just a thought...

[toastofthetown]

@AccessibleVoid

The real issue here is that controlling kids is not a one off thing if a family are in a bit of a discipline rut it seems a bit unreasonable to say their entire life needs to be put on hold until they've figured it out. Nor are all kids as easily controlled as others, some children are just inherently extremely stubborn, oppositional or impulsive - again, seems a bit unfair that just because someone ended up with a naturally impulsive kid they should never get to go out. Running in a pub isn't the best thing for a kid to be doing of course but certainly they could be doing a lot worse - the "bad behaviour" you see might be a kid on their best behaviour. If you don't want to deal with pretty benign child behaviours go somewhere not frequented by families or go out in the evening when children are in bed.

I disagree with this. Yes not all children are as compliant as others, but no child should be running around pubs and restaurants. If your child can't cope with that environment then it's not fair for anyone for the child to be put in that situation. It's also a safety issue, as most parents aren't happy for their children to have heavy plates or hot drinks dropped on them if they are charging around underfoot.

[Hospedia]

YANBU.

No one expects kids to be seen and not heard, sitting at their table or walking sensibly to/from any play areas is fine, noise and chatting is fine (I'd expect that in a family pub), running around is not fine as they could injure themselves or someone else.

[nearlyspringyay]

Running around is not fine.

[Ikeptgoing]

... grrr MN formatting glitch loses the end too...
I wrote "Just a thought..."

All the details of the neglectful parents and child's details will be on solicitor letter to the pub

If everyone is cross about it, that's plenty of independent witnesses about how parents were sitting ignoring their child ... in an unsafe environment

[Ikeptgoing]

Sounds like waitress also could sue parents as she sustained burns and broke her leg on fall . Might be worth pub insurance company also taking that up as it will help them too

[VivaLaRaza]

No chance I’d ever let the dc run about in a pub or anywhere else that serves food. It’s very dangerous. Most of the family friendly pubs we go to have gardens and climbing frames for them to play on outside. They know they can run about as much as they want out there but once they’re inside, they sit in their seats and walk slowly if they need to go to the toilet.

[EeeByeGummieBear]

YANBU. I was once in Pizza Hut where a dad was letting his kids scoot around a set of tables while he was on his phone. They had finished eating and paid the bill, he was just letting them scoot around. He made some half arsed attempt to stop them when asked by staff to, but they continued. So staff asked him again, pointing out how dangerous it was, so he left.
Even my kids knew that kids on scooters in a restaurant isn't a good idea...

[Ikeptgoing]

Sorry don't know what happened

Meant to type
"Now pub has name and details if parents and child (from solicitor letter saying they are being sued) they can refer child to local authority for safeguarding for parental neglect , hoping there's enough witnesses what could do multiple safeguarding neglect reports to local CSD too.

[youdothemaths]

@AccessibleVoid

The real issue here is that controlling kids is not a one off thing if a family are in a bit of a discipline rut it seems a bit unreasonable to say their entire life needs to be put on hold until they've figured it out. Nor are all kids as easily controlled as others, some children are just inherently extremely stubborn, oppositional or impulsive - again, seems a bit unfair that just because someone ended up with a naturally impulsive kid they should never get to go out. Running in a pub isn't the best thing for a kid to be doing of course but certainly they could be doing a lot worse - the "bad behaviour" you see might be a kid on their best behaviour. If you don't want to deal with pretty benign child behaviours go somewhere not frequented by families or go out in the evening when children are in bed.

But surely teaching kids, however impulsive they are, that there are times and places when they have to rein in that impulsivity, is part and parcel of bringing up children and teaching them how to function in the world?

[BeanCounterBabe]

YANBU. One of my kids was impulsive abs couldn’t be trusted in restaurants. We just didn’t eat meals out as a family until she was calmer. It wasn’t exactly fun for any of us trying to eat and control her at the same time anyway.

[AccessibleVoid]

@youdothemaths

But surely teaching kids, however impulsive they are, that there are times and places when they have to rein in that impulsivity, is part and parcel of bringing up children and teaching them how to function in the world?

Yes but just because you're teaching them doesn't mean that they've listened, by the time you've told the kid to stop running they've already got a meter or two head start.

[VeryTrying22]

@youdothemaths

Are those who are voting YABU doing so because they think children should be allowed to behave like this? Apart from being unpleasant for other people, it's unsafe as the OP has pointed out.

There was a whole post created the other day saying children should be able to run riot in McDonald’s so these people walk among us.

[junglejane66]

@ProclivityForPyrotechnics

There's a pub near us that does amazing food. Last year a child ran into a waitress and she poured hot gravy all over him. She was also burned and she broke her leg in the fall. There are signs everywhere saying 'control your kids we serve hot food'

The family are suing the pub for injuring their child. It's a massive thing in the village. No one is in support of them.

It was their fault their kid got hurt

Seems a bit harsh the waitress poured hot gravy over the child just because they ran into her?

[AskingforaBaskin]

@AccessibleVoid

Yes but just because you're teaching them doesn't mean that they've listened, by the time you've told the kid to stop running they've already got a meter or two head start.

And then you pick them up pay and leave.

[EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall]

@junglejane66

Seems a bit harsh the waitress poured hot gravy over the child just because they ran into her?

What? You think she did it on purpose ? 🙄

[ProclivityForPyrotechnics]

@junglejane66 she was carrying a tray of food and the whole lot fell on the kid when he ran into her, the gravy went over them both. As well as meat and veg but I didn't think that was relevant.

I saw the whole thing. He ran into her legs and essentially rugby tackled her