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'Escape from it all' holiday gate-crashed

393 replies

Ismellspring · 08/05/2022 06:54

After a very traumatic and emotionally draining 18 months that have pushed us to the brink, my partner and I plus our 6 year old daughter have rented an apartment in a European city for a month this summer. We just need somewhere to escape to, to regroup and unwind. We absolutely need this 'getting away from it all' opportunity to allow us to heal and begin to move on. The looking forward to it is already beginning to have a positive impact.
Now, there is a child involved and that child has adoring grandparents. You probably know where this is going...
Doting grandparents don't live near us (4 hours away) and we typically visit each other every couple of months for a weekend. Come visit us in * instead, we say. The usual 3 days, we say. Remember, we're getting away from everything, we say.
10 DAYS THEY'VE BOOKED.
Don't worry, we won't intrude, they say. We know you need space to recuperate so we'll keep a low profile, they say. You'll never know we're here, they say.
Their apartment is round the corner. She is very demanding and needy. She thinks there's a life rule book and she wrote it. Everyone around her dances to her tune - it's easier as she is a sulker and stropper. We have all been guilty of pandering to her in the past as we are never in her company long or often enough for it to be worth challenging.
I've hit rock bottom. We were so looking forward to a whole month of a different normal and the space and sanctuary to begin to live again.

OP posts:
PorpoiseWithPurpose · 08/05/2022 07:34

You invited them?!!

Remainiac · 08/05/2022 07:34

They haven’t gate crashed your holiday. You invited them, and from what you have said, you didn’t specify for how long. It doesn’t make sense- why invite them at all?

AllThatFancyPaintsAsFair · 08/05/2022 07:34

Ismellspring · 08/05/2022 07:24

@Momicrone Yes, you're right. I'm just trying to do the best by everybody.

Impossible to know as you haven't given any background info but why would doing the best by everyon involve inviting people you clearly don't get along with on such a vital trip in the first place?

Is this part of some much wider problem with not being able to set boundaries?

Ismellspring · 08/05/2022 07:35

All such reasonable and kind responses, thank you. Of course, with hindsight, it was ridiculous of us to mention a visit. However, they do travel a lot and a 3 night trip abroad is the norm for them.
I think we were just trying to soften the backlash when we told them we'd be away for so long. Big mistake.

OP posts:
diddl · 08/05/2022 07:36

So just make arrangements to see them for 3days?

If they have booked their flights & accommodation you can't dictate how long they stay there-but you don't have to see them for all of that time.

Turmerictolly · 08/05/2022 07:36

Can you arrange to go to a different place for a few nights whilst they're there ie, spend 3 days with them as usual then take off to another part of the country for a few days until they've gone?

Mosaic123 · 08/05/2022 07:36

Might one of you have suspected Covid a couple of days after they arrive?

You can still go out but you wouldn't want to pass it on to them....

Mulhollandmagoo · 08/05/2022 07:42

diddl · 08/05/2022 07:36

So just make arrangements to see them for 3days?

If they have booked their flights & accommodation you can't dictate how long they stay there-but you don't have to see them for all of that time.

Agree, can you just say 'oh sorry, we have plans today' for the majority of their stay! Then remind them you did only say 3 days. Just set boundaries and stick to them. Will it really he absolutely terrible I'd they're there for that long? Are they hard work?

BlueberryPuff · 08/05/2022 07:43

This is the sort of dilemma that ensues when you give mixed messages. You are telling us that she’ll be a nightmare but you told them to come to visit.

It is done now but maybe now you will find the resolve to become more assertive, to line up thoughts with the messages you give.

You can’t cancel and go somewhere else, that would be a huge drama and they would be rightly hurt and offended.

And I cannot see it being acceptable for you to allot them 3 days out of their 10. They can’t read your mind and as you say they are adoring and we’re invited.

I think you need to face that this is what has happened and to make the best of it. Start making plans and be clear with them. Maybe you will see them for half days or 6 out of the 10 days. Maybe they could take the child out for a few of the days.

Try to make the most of what it is and start preparing rather than burying your bed in the sand then having a meltdown when you’re away.

user014852 · 08/05/2022 07:44

This is clearly stressing you out an awful lot. Can you message/email them with your thoughts to try and avoid confrontation, if you are worried about the upset and your tendency to appease them?

can you book to go somewhere else for 7/10 days they are visiting if you don’t feel able to say you are only available for 3 days?

BlueberryPuff · 08/05/2022 07:45
  • head!

Also, there is no need to wait until holiday to recover, you can start now. Lots of ways to improve your well-being in small steps which will ultimately make your time away more valuable.

carefullycourageous · 08/05/2022 07:46

Ismellspring · 08/05/2022 07:18

@carefullycourageous You are so right. And once, in a previous life, I would be doing all of that. But now, my family need peace. And yes, these people are taking advantage of that.

But you are choosing to stop your family getting peace by having no boundaries. You are choosing this dynamic, you're not an inanimate object but a person with agency.

You (meaning you and your DP) are the issue I think. As hard as it is, sometimes we have to put our foot down, even when exhausted, because the other option is worse.

cantyfunt · 08/05/2022 07:48

Have you asked them
What their intentions are?

Maybe they're planning 3 days with you and then a week to themselves.

If you're very anxious are you sure you're not catasrophising this?

Why tf invite them if she's a toxic sulk any way.

Ismellspring · 08/05/2022 07:49

@carefullycourageous Thank you for that message. You are absolutely right.

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PineMartenPeanutbutter · 08/05/2022 07:49

Just tell them you have e plans most days and won’t be available to meet up. It’s your fault for inviting them!

Billandben444 · 08/05/2022 07:50

I think how you feel is being ignored a bit on this thread as what's done is done and can't be changed. What was going to be a wonderful recuperative month for the 3 of you - something to look forward to - has become another weight on your mind and now looms in the future as something else to drag you down.
I do think the only way to get your head round this and get back the feelings of optimism rather than doom, is for one of you to set the boundaries now by having 'the conversation' that will leave no ambiguity or confusion over their involvement in your trip. Tell them that you are really looking forward to sharing the first 3 days of their stay with them and would they like you to plan stuff beforehand? Then say 'Unfortunately, we will be unable to spend more time with you than that as we need time on our own to recharge our batteries'. Do not leave the room until you know they've got the message and they know what to expect. Telling them now gives them a chance to make/change their plans and seeing them at the start of their stay gets it over with for you early on.
Then, try and put it from your mind and sit back and look forward to your visit.

ANUsernam · 08/05/2022 07:51

You can't invite them to visit you in a foreign country and dictate how long they stay in that country/city.

They haven't gatecrashed - you invited them and they've arranged and are staying in their own apartment.

I'm sorry, but this is on you for inviting them.

JuneOsborne · 08/05/2022 07:51

Book a week away in your month long holiday. See them for the three days you'd imagined and then go to the coast for a week.

Ismellspring · 08/05/2022 07:52

@Billandben444 Thank you

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carefullycourageous · 08/05/2022 07:52

Ismellspring · 08/05/2022 07:49

@carefullycourageous Thank you for that message. You are absolutely right.

If it helps - I have had a similar issue. It was awfully scary but in the end I learnt that no one dies when I say no, I just get the space I need. My issue was also after a period of high family stress.

Sally090807 · 08/05/2022 07:53

Day one and 10 will be travelling so that only leaves 8 days and I’d use that as an opportunity to do things that maybe a 6 year old wouldn’t want to do and let the grandparents take care of your daughter. Also, your daughter might be thrilled to have her grandparents there too.

Ismellspring · 08/05/2022 07:53

@ANUsernam Is that something you would do, then? I certainly wouldn't.

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AllThatFancyPaintsAsFair · 08/05/2022 07:54

I think we were just trying to soften the backlash when we told them we'd be away for so long

Do you live with them? What blow are you softening? You're going on holiday not emigrating to Timbuktu. I'm finding the family dynamic hard to relate to, is that the reason for your struggles in the first place? How have you got to a situation where you seem almost scared to go away?

MeridianB · 08/05/2022 07:54

Really feel for you, OP.

I know you’re a team but surely the onus is more on your DH to ensure his mother is not intrusive and overbearing, both on this trip and in day to day life, too?

does he stand up to her and protect you? Does FIL help? 💐

rocketfromthecrypt · 08/05/2022 07:55

You still have almost three weeks when they won't be there. A month away is a huge luxury most people don't get. I really don't think it's that bad.