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AIBU?

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To think dp should contribute to my dc?

201 replies

Cocopogo · 07/05/2022 19:36

Been together three years, don’t live together, recently got engaged, DP recently bought his own place.
Since we got engaged I’ve been talking about us being more like a family. DP is avoiding this. He clearly doesn’t actually want to get married but proposed as I was considering walking away through his lack of commitment. Today he’s made a big fuss that started because he drove me to my house and I’d forgotten my key so had to drive me back to his and started moaning about fuel costs and I reminded him that I do all the driving except for Saturdays when he drives and he then went on how when we go out for meals he pays for 3 people (me and dc) and I pay for 1 (him) even though we both pay for 4.
Basically see’s my dc as not his responsibility. I pointed out that he earns over twice as much as me and we have similar outgoings except I pay for everything else for my dc except you be meal a week which we alternate.

Even as I write this it all seems petty to me but he was so annoyed. Should he contribute to the DC or should it always be separate?

OP posts:
TiddleyWink · 07/05/2022 21:01

He’s not remotely committed to you, or your children, sorry OP. I’m also astounded that you accepted a proposal from a man who has never lived with you and your children. You can’t marry (or agree to marry) someone and THEN see what happens when you bring him under the same roof with your kids! Sorry but this is going nowhere. Why has he bought a house which he’s living in alone if he’s engaged to you…? He’s not planning a future with you and if you end up together it’ll be under duress - you deserve better.

CheesusWept · 07/05/2022 21:02

Fucks sake.

Yes, he’s not responsible for them and not their father, but I certainly wouldn’t marry a man who grudged paying for a meal for my kid.
This is a sign of worse to come.

ButtockUp · 07/05/2022 21:02

Walk away dear.
Your kids, your problem.
You sound like you want someone else to prop you and your kids up.

Not a great way to start with a new partner.

Searchfornessie · 07/05/2022 21:02

I’m not fussed about marriage either but I am fussed about being a family unit regardless of our living arrangements

I don’t understand what you mean by this? How do people become a family unit if they don’t, and never have lived together. Or do you just mean that you want to share finances (aka you want him to pay for your children)?

Superbabe64 · 07/05/2022 21:03

Good Luck with finding that bloke who is happy to pay for your DC, especially if there is no dad contributing. Quite honestly... I wouldn't .

sst1234 · 07/05/2022 21:03

I don’t get it. Your children have a father. Their own. So they are not some other man’s responsibility.

Lovemypeaceandquiet · 07/05/2022 21:06

It’s obvious he doesn’t want much to do with your kids. It’s his right of course but I cannot see how you’d like to build a family unit with this man.

LeaCFBC · 07/05/2022 21:06

Would OP expect her independent , childfree female friend who lives on her own to pay for her boyfriends' DCs? is a girlfriend of the father of the DC expected to pay for meals for him and his DC every other week? If not, why not?

I don't think the DC meals out are the real problem here, and OP is trying to force this man into fulfilling her dreams, even involving her DC, but has no idea what his are.

Most importantly, YABU to yourself and your dc, OP. Abort mission.

Needanewadventure2021 · 07/05/2022 21:07

As much as he has no duty to contribute towards your DC, if he is truly committed he wouldn't view them as your responsibility. If he wants to be with you he would accept all of you.

I'm sorry but I really could not be in a relationship with someone who viewed my child as separate to me. What sort of person gets into a relationship with someone who has children and begrudges them a bloody meal. I'm shocked!

Darbs76 · 07/05/2022 21:07

so the OP should always pay the children's meal when her partner decides to pay for the meal. I don’t think that’s right, I agree he shouldn’t pay for their general costs but if he can’t pay for an odd meal then I’d walk away. By the sounds of it he doesn’t want to commit. Perhaps part of this is due to financial reasons. Whilst he might not be wrong it’s not the kind of relationship I’d want. When I was a single parent and started seeing DS2&3’s father he always paid for meals for my son and I. Without question. Holidays I paid for his share but a meal, drinks; ice creams, he paid

AnnaKorine · 07/05/2022 21:08

He doesn’t have to pay for them but I wouldn’t want to be in a relationship with someone who was clearly so uninvested. When I first moved in with DP I earned more than him and helped pay for things for his DC including medical expenses and school fees. I didn’t really see it as paying for his DC but helping him out because I considered us to be a unit. I didn’t begrudge it at all because to have to completely separate finances where I was flush and he was struggling didn’t make sense to me. It’s more an indication of his position than about the money IMO.

Diverseopinions · 07/05/2022 21:09

In fairness, if a relationship is about soul mates, and the love between you blossoms and flourishes, then, when you are kids are grown up - at university and in their jobs and relationships, the two of you will remain. Perhaps he likes the bit about being with you, and likes the kids, but wants to set controls over what he is letting himself in for.

If he's ever read Mumsnet, lol, he might be thinking about those kids in their mid- twenties who won't move out and who bring their partners round all the time to stay over. He might think is that what his new home will be. If he's not, as an adult, used to family life, it might seem like a commune.
You'd probably be better continuing in separate homes, as that is the bit he's probably perturbed about. Apologies if you have explained, and I haven't read the whole thread, but what were you thinking married life was going to be...living in his new place? He rents it out and lives with you?

It not too much of a stretch to think he's bought a place of his own to keep something separate that is his, and a safe depository for his money. It seems to me that there is s disconnect in his head. Engagement to you equates to a romantic notion which pleases you and keeps you sweet and committed to him. Blending homes equates to losing his money. He obviously hasn't thought about marriage being a legal contract to share all that you have.

If he does well at work, he might go on to earn five times what you do. He might not feel it's satisfying to put it into saving accounts for your kids and to fund higher education for them, as they mature.

I'd say to stay engaged and see if the love he has for you is enough. Ask yourself what one poster postulated - and be brutally honest with yourself: Are you looking for someone to financially support you and your children?

Notmyyearthisyear · 07/05/2022 21:11

thistimelastweek · 07/05/2022 20:27

He's not your DP. A true partner doesn't weigh and measure every transaction for their own benefit. A true partner looks at the relationship as a whole. You know, we're all in this shit together.
He's just a tight bastard.

This ^^^

PJsAndRainyDays · 07/05/2022 21:11

Of course he doesn't HAVE to pay for them. But the fact he doesn't WANT to pay for them suggests he views them as entirely yours.

I absolutely wouldn't be marrying someone who begrudges paying for the odd meal for my kids.

LoisLane66 · 07/05/2022 21:11

What he earns is nothing to do with his contribution to your outings. He was pushed into proposing and you're trying to push him into accepting that he should pay for your (2?) DC when you go out. If he's not doing it without being asked, then I can't see a future for both of you.
Be realistic, you're doing all the pushing and it will not end well.

Viviennemary · 07/05/2022 21:12

I think if you got married, lived in the same house it would be different. You would be a family. Only you can decide what the bigger picture is and if that's going to happen in future. He doesn't exactly sound over generous though.

Evilcountspatula · 07/05/2022 21:14

He sounds miserly but tbf I think YABU just from your thread title - there is no reason why a dp who doesn’t live with you and shows no sign of wishing to do so should contribute to your dc. You clearly want a family unit but it doesn’t sound like he does - I would seriously consider moving on if I were you, trying to play happy families with an unwilling party will only lead to upset for you and, most importantly, your DC. And to be fair, whilst an expectation of contributing towards DC who are not his is, IMHO, unreasonable, it would of course be nice and the sign of a decent person if, after three years, he wanted to treat them occasionally.

Nsky62 · 07/05/2022 21:14

He got engaged with no intention of marrying, dump!
very simple

Superhanz · 07/05/2022 21:14

MarJau26 · 07/05/2022 19:43

Why are you so keen for this man that doesn't treat you well. You had to force him into proposing, he is actually complaining about your DC and yet you still choose him? Come on, you're a mother. Why put your DC second best here? He bought his own place, intentions for what? He has an issue for paying for their meals, you really think you made a good choice for their stepfather?

Yeah, I'd bin him. I couldn't be with someone who begrudged paying for my child's dinner, not because they couldn't afford it but because they just didn't want to.

Your children should always come first and I'm sorry if I sound blunt but I don't think you are putting them first.

Itsmythreadandilldeleteifiwantto · 07/05/2022 21:14

Thinking further, OP. You want to create a blended family, and he doesn't. There's nothing wrong with either of those things, but it means you are not compatible. You need to find a man who is positively keen to take on someone else's children, and your boyfriend needs to be single or to find a woman with no children. How much he "loves" you or you "love" him is not relevant here: what matters here is that you have children and they need to be your primary focus. You need to think a bit more pragmatically. Either remain single, or find a man who wants to have stepchildren.

Grotbag81 · 07/05/2022 21:16

I was engaged to a partner for 2 and with him 6 years. Lived together about 5 years. He lived at my house and I supported him through tough financial times.

First, the fridge freezer went lived together 5 years by then, I was told my house my responsibility. He pointed out the neighbour had put one on her garden. When I said hang on I supported you, with food, payed the bills, even lunches for work, he was a big eater.

Few weeks later I asked if he'd contribute £15 pounds to a uniform (not his DC) because I was really struggling and still subbing him, food and bill wise. He was giving me a tenner occasionally. It was like I was the cheekiest money grabbing cow ever, when it was him fleecing me.

I was pregnant to him at the time I knew there and then I couldn't have a child with him as he'd never change.

Get rid.

PrisonerofZeroCovid · 07/05/2022 21:19

Neither of you are necessarily wrong but you want different things so you need to either accept what he's offering or split up. He's not interested in parenting your children.

Horcruxe · 07/05/2022 21:20

YABU for staying with him

He doesnt want to make a family unit, and its obvious from his actions. If you're not happy with his behaviour it idnt going to improve if you're married, and if you being another child into this it'll just complicate it further.

I'd quit while you're ahead and not tied longterm to him

KermitlovesKeyLimePie · 07/05/2022 21:23

You want to marry a man who begrudges 2 kids a meal every fortnight?

Give your head a wobble.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 07/05/2022 21:25

He didn't propose because he wanted to marry you and form a family unit. He proposed because he wanted to continue shagging you. Your instinct is right - dump him; he's never going to want anything less than you paying 75% of all expenses, which means if he did eventually allow you to move in, you wouldn't have a penny, as he's 'providing the house'. And he'd likely be counting the days until he can go on about how a teenager can't behave 'like that in my house' and try to get them to move in with their father if he's around.

Just get rid.

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