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To hope Amber Heard is lying?

192 replies

roadsweep · 06/05/2022 13:31

Otherwise it's just another abused woman that's not believed.

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OnlyHippyInTheVillage · 12/05/2022 18:11

Actually, it's nothing to do with verbal or emotional assault. She accused him of physical and sexual assault. That's what she has to prove.

HRTQueen · 12/05/2022 18:13

There is injuries a Bruised faces

and his assistant (or someone in his team) acknowledging that

what more do you want

so it’s not the right pictures now we didn’t see any of her injured vagina

Newrunner29 · 12/05/2022 18:20

HRTQueen · 12/05/2022 18:13

There is injuries a Bruised faces

and his assistant (or someone in his team) acknowledging that

what more do you want

so it’s not the right pictures now we didn’t see any of her injured vagina

All of the photos have not had metadata on them, as heard team has refused to hand it over to the court. There is a legal document explaining it. This will show date if its been edited etc , why if these are real are they hiding that? Also the injuries are not 100% with that she says. She talks about head and face and then there is picture shown of her arm?

Newrunner29 · 12/05/2022 18:22

She explains in details her injuries then shows picture of depp sleeping? Why? Why not her face ? She takes multiple photos Why not of her.

HRTQueen · 12/05/2022 19:17

so what injuries do you want to see

a member of his team acknowledged his outburst

maybe she didn’t want to take photos and just wanted to hide the injuries she still wanted him to change that’s why she took photos of him

as for sexual violence much can be explained away by rough sex (as we are aware of) not all women after a sexual assault/rape will be examined the shame of an examination is too much to emotionally deal with

not the right type of victim not the right type of acknowledgment from someone in his team him lashing out in the kitchen video is just angry behaviour nothing concerning and now not the right type of photos

there will never be enough as many have made up their mind

OnlyHippyInTheVillage · 12/05/2022 19:25

Maybe someone here can answer this riddle. None of her fans on Twitter will. Strangely.
In Australia when poor JD got his finger chopped off.
AH claims to have been sexually assaulted with a bottle, choked, beaten leaving a swollen nose and bust lip, thrown onto a ping pong table that broke, dragged across broken glass leaving cuts on her arms and legs. And in her own words her feet were "sliced up pretty good".
She then claims to have gotten upstairs, taken 2 sleeping pills and went to sleep.
She woke up. Saw a lot of paint and blood and mashed potatoes, meat etc.

Found JD, made him coffee? one of them called security and their private nurse and doctor.
There is audio tape after they arrived on which you can hear the Dr and Nurse and AH, saying she is sorry and she didn't mean it. She's in a complete state. They speak about giving her a sedative which they do.
Meanwhile they're trying to find JDs fingertip.
Remember this is merely hours after the alleged incident.

There are a few of things that could have happened here.

  • The injuries she sustained were far less than what she said and were not visible to the medical professionals.
  • The medical professionals completely ignored the fact that she was severely injured. So we're looking at medical negligence.
  • She lied about the whole thing.

There are no medical records. Just a whole lot of pictures of walls, mirrors, lamps.

Two security guards, a house manager, a doctor and a nurse all said they saw no injuries on AH. Oh and Nurse Erin when she got back to LA.

We have the evidence, what actually happened?

You can get this info from her day two testimony.
The audio is online, it can't be submitted into evidence as it has Jerry Judge (security) speaking on it and he died a few years ago.

stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou · 12/05/2022 19:27

HRTQueen · 12/05/2022 19:17

so what injuries do you want to see

a member of his team acknowledged his outburst

maybe she didn’t want to take photos and just wanted to hide the injuries she still wanted him to change that’s why she took photos of him

as for sexual violence much can be explained away by rough sex (as we are aware of) not all women after a sexual assault/rape will be examined the shame of an examination is too much to emotionally deal with

not the right type of victim not the right type of acknowledgment from someone in his team him lashing out in the kitchen video is just angry behaviour nothing concerning and now not the right type of photos

there will never be enough as many have made up their mind

None of the team have confirmed any violence between them.
The night she claims to have been beaten she was on TV the next morning without a mark (claiming hse used make up to cover up that hadnt been made yet).

Your desperation to protect her because she is a woman is clear.

As for not wanting to be examined out of shame, she wrote a book and is talkin about it on national TV!

OnlyHippyInTheVillage · 12/05/2022 19:34

For those who need independent nonbias research. This makes for a VERY interesting read.
www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/24732850.2021.1945836

stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou · 12/05/2022 20:09

LaLaKickSticks · 12/05/2022 11:05

she was abusive in past to her partners

No, she was not. She was arrested once for supposedly hitting her girlfriend, but the girlfriend herself said it was just an argument that was blown out of proportion by a homophonic cop who saw them arguing. She wasn’t charged with anything.

Neither was, or is, Johnny.

HRTQueen · 12/05/2022 20:16

She has talked about it after I was talking about shame just after the incident happened the shame is often unbearable the person you love does that do you think many women want to take photos or want to be examined they feel the pain they feel shame they feel hurt they want things to go back to what they were (as stated in the text it does for a while)

I believe her because to me JD is carrying this on and on he wants to punish her he doesn’t take any responsibility for his actions it’s always someone else’s fault his money issues, he plays down his drug and drink issues, that he choose AH over his daughter was not his fault

i believe her. It’s been to court once in regard to him taking The Sun to court

I’ve worked in DV it’s complex she isn’t the type of victim many believe but why isn’t he the type of person many don’t believe could be abusive ?

misssatan · 13/05/2022 05:59

"'Most women' aren't interested in feminism? What else have you got in your big bag of sweeping generalisations and made up statistics?"

You really don't get out of your echo chamber much, do you?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47006912

misssatan · 13/05/2022 06:25

HRTQueen · 12/05/2022 20:16

"I believe her because to me JD is carrying this on and on he wants to punish her he doesn’t take any responsibility for his actions it’s always someone else’s fault his money issues, he plays down his drug and drink issues, that he choose AH over his daughter was not his faultI believe her because to me JD is carrying this on and on he wants to punish her he doesn’t take any responsibility for his actions it’s always someone else’s fault his money issues, he plays down his drug and drink issues, that he choose AH over his daughter was not his fault"

Has it never occurred to you that maybe he's carrying this on because he's really, really pissed off that she made up a load of lies about him and claimed he was the abusive one and she was the victim when it was actually the other way around?

Has it never occurred to you that her visiting his room while she had a restraining order out on him and getting into his bed and trying to seduce him was hardly the behaviour of someone who is fearful of him and has been constantly and very badly abused during their relationship?

Have you not noticed how ever more ridiculous her claims are? The attacks she pretends she has endured would have hospitalised her, with the repeated punches, kicks and hair pulling etc. And yet no-one saw any of this.

Why did no-one see her with the black eyes, cut lips, torn hair and broken nose? Look at her face during the Corden interview which was taped a day after the worst of the alleged attacks. It is perfect. It would have taken a lot more than makeup (of a brand that wasn't even available when she said she used it) to cover up the kind of injuries she is claiming she received, plus the makeup artist saw nothing wrong with her face. Several other witnesses said the same.

She started this whole circus when she wrote an article and broke their non disclosure agreement. He's just trying to clear his name and get the truth out there. Now, with the exception of the UK judge whose son works for the man who owns the newspaper Depp was suing and who refused to allow all the evidence to be submitted, the only people who believe her version are feminists and her few remaining fans. Everyone else recognises her as another Jussie Smollett with more violent tendencies.

CooooCoooo · 13/05/2022 07:15

Well there's leaked audio of when Johnny's finger was cut off in Australia which proves her horrifc 3 day hostage/bottle story is all lies. If she's gone as far as to lie about him raping her with a bottle then who knows what else she's lying about.

CooooCoooo · 13/05/2022 08:00

I think the reason people are so interested in this case is because there's leaked audio proving the relationship dynamics to be one way yet there's a person testifying on the stand to another dynamic of which there is no evidence. We're all watching someone commit perjury in real time and we're wondering if the justice system works.

Amber testified she had never hit Johnny and that people shouldn't hit each other. She then said she had only ever hit him once when she was trying to save her sister from being pushed down the stairs. So then why is she recorded saying she can't guarantee not to hit Johnny when he's asking her not to?

https://twitter.com/roaringrapids22/status/1523688495843524609?s=20&t=QSAMeEQB8sW1H1X725iZ4g

Newrunner29 · 13/05/2022 08:53

CooooCoooo · 13/05/2022 08:00

I think the reason people are so interested in this case is because there's leaked audio proving the relationship dynamics to be one way yet there's a person testifying on the stand to another dynamic of which there is no evidence. We're all watching someone commit perjury in real time and we're wondering if the justice system works.

Amber testified she had never hit Johnny and that people shouldn't hit each other. She then said she had only ever hit him once when she was trying to save her sister from being pushed down the stairs. So then why is she recorded saying she can't guarantee not to hit Johnny when he's asking her not to?

https://twitter.com/roaringrapids22/status/1523688495843524609?s=20&t=QSAMeEQB8sW1H1X725iZ4g

She also said in her testimony at one point I only hit him once and explains it, but it's shown that an incident that happened before she says she hot it then, that's on top of audio saying she cannot Guarantee that she cannot be physical again! In her testimony she claims he never let's her walk away but then on audios he is always one to try and walk away! It's crazy to me anyone listening to testimony and listening to audio and still saying they are believing her. I found a quote on twitter some idiot said I wonder if it would relate here ill find it

Newrunner29 · 13/05/2022 09:14

This is the tweet ironically I searched 'amber heard feminist '

To hope Amber Heard is lying?
stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou · 14/05/2022 00:36

HRTQueen · 12/05/2022 20:16

She has talked about it after I was talking about shame just after the incident happened the shame is often unbearable the person you love does that do you think many women want to take photos or want to be examined they feel the pain they feel shame they feel hurt they want things to go back to what they were (as stated in the text it does for a while)

I believe her because to me JD is carrying this on and on he wants to punish her he doesn’t take any responsibility for his actions it’s always someone else’s fault his money issues, he plays down his drug and drink issues, that he choose AH over his daughter was not his fault

i believe her. It’s been to court once in regard to him taking The Sun to court

I’ve worked in DV it’s complex she isn’t the type of victim many believe but why isn’t he the type of person many don’t believe could be abusive ?

But it hasnt gone tk criminal court. If she proves it he wonr be charged.

Nobody said he isnt abusive. He was a drinker, took drugs and their relationship was toxic. Both were vile tl one another.

But she is not a victim and he an abuser.

Tbe sole reason people want to say theh believe amber is because shes a woman and we have to be seen to believe women.

Are you familiar with the Roxanne Pallett please?

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