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DS Bullied By Child with SEN

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ellie21 · 03/05/2022 21:11

My son who is at a mainstream Primary School is being bullied by another child who is undergoing assessment for ADD.
Initially this was low level bullying ( name calling etc) but has developed into threats of violence. In the last two weeks he has been physically assaulted three times by this child. The school have confirmed that this is one sided and is happening to other students too.
I have been into school a number of times to talk to staff and whereas they are sympathetic they say they have a duty of care to the child with SEN as he is struggling to cope at school.
AIBU to think that this is separate issue? I am absolutely furious my child is being hurt.

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Morph22010 · 05/05/2022 16:57

@Wouldyabeguilty thanks for posting that I don’t know why but it’s just made me cry (in a good way)

Smurfsareevil · 05/05/2022 17:01

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blinkybilll · 05/05/2022 17:03

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Seriously. Fuck off.

blinkybilll · 05/05/2022 17:03

Wouldyabeguilty · 05/05/2022 16:38

This thread has really opened my eyes. In my anger and worry about my own child being attacked I honestly didn't factor in the other child who attacks. I didn't factor in the absolute nightmare it is for the parents of that child who are seeking help and getting nowhere. I didn't factor in that these parents DO care and care very much but they need to fight for their child too like I am fighting for mine. I didn't factor in that it is not a matter of sides and every family affected is fighting a war that cannot win until something changes.

I am glad this thread exists because it has educated me. it is very hard to see another side when your child is coming home injured and terrified and you tend to get defensive and blinkered. My frustration and judgement was directed in the wrong direction. When you know better, you do better.

What a lovely response ❤️

Smurfsareevil · 05/05/2022 17:05

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Zigzog · 05/05/2022 17:07

Obviously trying to get a rise but what an arsehole. I feel sorry for its kids.

blinkybilll · 05/05/2022 17:08

Zigzog · 05/05/2022 17:07

Obviously trying to get a rise but what an arsehole. I feel sorry for its kids.

I suspect they have hairy fingers 🧌 but if not, they need to be banned.

Smurfsareevil · 05/05/2022 17:09

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Overthebow · 05/05/2022 17:09

@Smurfsareevil that’s just offensive, no need for that language.

blinkybilll · 05/05/2022 17:10

Language says it all..exactly the kind of kids I want my children to stay away from!


That language is mild compared to what you deserve.

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blinkybilll · 05/05/2022 17:14

Laters 👋🏻
@Smurfsareevil

Wouldyabeguilty · 05/05/2022 17:19

@Smurfsareevil thank you indeed for your comments, I have been educated AGAIN today on the level of actual abuse and disgusting viterol that parents of children with SEN are subjected to. Your nastiness has been most enlightening and an absolute shining example of all that is wrong in the world. So not only are these parents fighting the government for funding, they are up against bigots to boot. Double bloody whammy. Thanks for the eye opener hun!

jellybeansandthings · 05/05/2022 17:31

To be honest, if there's one thing for sure is that if a system is not working then the whole of society will pay the price and it's important for all sides of a discussion to speak out about what difficulties they face so that hopefully things can improve in the future.

Autienotnaughtie · 05/05/2022 17:45

@Overthebow sorry if I misinterpreted your post. I see what you re wheelchairs. Thank you for explaining.

DixonD · 05/05/2022 18:44

ihmlsnwidhks · 03/05/2022 21:22

But how ? My child has a 1 to 1 and the violence still continues. What's the answer?

Then the violent child should not attend the school.

blinkybilll · 05/05/2022 19:00

Then the violent child should not attend the school.


How about considering that something has gone wrong they need to look at what instead of just deciding they can't go to school.

If a child has round then clock 1-1 and has managed to harm another child then something has gone drastically wrong.

Morph22010 · 05/05/2022 19:08

Words · 05/05/2022 15:59

Utterly appalled at this thread. I had no clue. It's so shocking and I can entirely understand the entrenched and bitter positions on both sides.

There should be better, properly funded specialised provision for these children to protect themselves and others, and so they can benefit as much as possible from their time in school.

For those children who have uncontrollable violent outbursts, do meds not help? Or in some cases is it a question of them not being administered correctly ? Or maybe a case of seeing what works, and in the meantime things get worse?

Flowers to you all, on both sides of this. It is an appalling situation. I will look at the green paper.

Just a word of warning if you are looking at the green paper as it all sounds very lovely and cuddly when you read it support being given right time, right place etc. However the existing code of practise is perfectly adequate if it was applied properly. As someone who’s been involved in Sen system for a number of years already i can see how it’s going to go. The first section on recognising the problems is good and spot on, the solutions however my main issues so far and I haven’t yet read it all in full

  1. talks a lot about early intervention but no mention of funding for this. What will happen is that instead of early intervention actually being done it will be used as a reason to turn down support. Ie. Parent applies for ehcp to get funding for support, la turn down as school haven’t done enough early intervention yet, school won’t/can’t do early intervention as they don’t have funds. Things continue to escalate, maybe child becomes violent.
  2. mandatory mediation, currently parents have right of appeal to tribunal and 98% of parents win as decisions made by la are flawed in first place. Green paper proposes mandatory mediation, will just drag things out even longer.
  3. currently parents can name a school and the la have to consult. Proposed to change this to the la providing a list of schools for parent to pick from. From experience this will be based on availability of places and cheapest placement rather than actual schools that can meet need. Just moving Problem on somewhere else and escalating issues
Belle96 · 05/05/2022 19:11

ihmlsnwidhks · 03/05/2022 21:22

But how ? My child has a 1 to 1 and the violence still continues. What's the answer?

The right assessments and the right school environment for them, perhaps mainstream isn't the best place. You're responses are pretty sharp and you are going to get worse replies on here than what you have had already.

AdultTractorContent · 05/05/2022 19:35

For those interested in the Green Paper, Special Needs Jungle is a good place to get some insight beyond the DfE spin. I've linked to the 2 relevant to those who have strong feelings on moving a child elsewhere and also to funding as that will also be relevant to mainstream. www.specialneedsjungle.com/

www.specialneedsjungle.com/what-does-the-sendreview-green-paper-say-about-funding-the-future-of-send/

www.specialneedsjungle.com/sendreview-chapter-2-national-standards-ehcp-choice/

Whatafustercluck · 05/05/2022 20:10

To those who have pointed out the obvious that driving my daughter without her seatbelt was dangerous, of course it was and i think those who read the thread were aware of how much it distressed me. We needed something that would work while we did some research and tried to find the right harness. Not having been in that situation before we needed advice and support, not judging. It was a hopeless situation and we felt destroyed by it.

As it happens, once we finally got professional support we were finally able to learn more about her anxiety triggers and keep her calm enough so as not to need the harness for too long. She now reliably wears her seatbelt as we've learned how to better support her needs.

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