To think this is actually great PR for Angela Rayner?

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61213711

I'm suprised the Mail article cause such a stir. And it's way more offensive to Boris than Angela. I think she's come off really well from this, raises her profile. I wouldn't be suprised if this was entirely made up by the journo and there is no leak.

I dont think all of her hair is her own! I agree with a PP - MN often comes across as very left leaning and anyone who comes up with something different gets called names.

During the last run up to the election MN was rife with this and so what happened is people just quietly voted for who they were going to vote for. Some of the posts were complete nonsense regarding what Corbyn et al was going to and wouldnt listen to anyone who asked where the money would come from. I have seen people demanding that Amazon, Musk or another billionaires fund the cost of living crisis and they arent even UK residents.

If Amazon were hit with a tax then who would end up paying it? Yep - US!!

AR is my worst nightmare politically. But is it just me but is she not that bothered about the attention. The wearing trousers etc. I suspect she doesnt give a stuff.

I guarantee there are several male MPs whose hair isn't their own, how is that in any way relevant to anyone's post or treatment by colleagues?

This thread is a dog whistle for all the rabid Labour haters and Tory bots to have a go at Rayner by accusing her pretty much asking for it and loving it. You'd hope any decent Tory voters left wouldn't want to put up with this sort of victim blaming nonsense.
Wouldn't surprise me if Johnson is at the back of all this as another dead cat distraction. Unfortunately for the Tories we now have this to take our minds off poor Angela's fanny

twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1519264807798595584?s=20&t=rA-tD9ekpAfridYkkl8hdg

It just gets worse and it's not Angela Rayner who is thick as mince.

I dont think all of her hair is her own!

FFS! Really!?!?

Meanwhile a Tory front bencher watches porn on his phone in the HoC...

... But hey! A woman may be sporting a weave and she moves in mysterious ways. Burn the witch!

Thanks Samphire was about to write similar. The state we've been reduced to in this country. Playground name-calling and rampant misogyny. Grim.

Is that just women or 'women' too? I'm confused.

@Alexandra2001 - There is nothing inspiring about AR, and we all know why she has been elevated to her position. You and other people like you think the ‘working class’ are like AR - loud, mouthy, aggressive, single parents on benefits. Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of people like that, but I wouldn’t call them the working class, and I’d bet a million quid (if I had it) that they wouldn’t vote for AR. People like AR, or the image she projects, don’t vote for anyone.

If the Labour Party want to win back votes in the working class ‘heartlands’, AR is not the way to go about it. You need someone dignified and decent - her opposite in fact. Her gender is neither here nor there - NO ONE in the real world cares about identity politics.

That's rich...there are that many Tory haters, who come out the woodwork, at any opportunity. So it's a Tory bot now if you aren't Labour. Let's add that to the list of names we get called.

Poor tories. The country's so brilliant after the party's 12 years in power and yet people are still mean about them. It's not fair. 😩

That's rich...there are that many Tory haters, who come out the woodwork, at any opportunity. So it's a Tory bot now if you aren't Labour.

I didnt say that. I said I can't imagine decent Tory voters couldt be lining up to victim blame a woman just because she' as Labour politician. I can only think that Tory bots would do such a thing and there are plenty of them around on the politics pages. Always trying to excuse the inexcusable. However I'll stand corrected if its ordinary Tory voters who are posting the posts on here dripping in misogyny and classism and victim blaming.

Poor Labour...years out of power and still no re-election back in sight. Its not fair 😪

There is nothing inspiring about AR, and we all know why she has been elevated to her position.

Care to elaborate?

Only because the tories are too scared to call an early one. But hey, I'm sure after another two years of a cost of living crisis the incumbents will cruise back into office.

Only because the tories are too scared to call an early one.

They won the last early one

Misogyny..another ubiquitous word on MN. The whole article about Rayner should have been treated with a pinch of salt. The Labour Party have way more to worry about as do the Tories.

EYProvider but it better than I could. Look what happened when people wanted another early election. Labour supporters on here and there were loads in the run up to the election were not saying Corbyn and McDonnell couldnt win it for Labour. They were too far left etc. Labour were stuffed. Now going forward - lets say there was an election in the next month. I still believe Boris and co would win. They would have a reduced majority but Labour wouldnt get a majority. They still cannot work out what a women is etc.

So, by that rationale, they'll win all future elections in perpetuity? I doubt their strategists are so blase.

@JustAnotherPoster00 - I’ve already elaborated further up the thread.

AR is what the Labour Party thinks a working class voter looks and acts like. Having no understanding of working class values, they think working class voters will identify with Rayner. It’s absolute horseshit, but the Labour Party is full of arrogant kids who think they know better than anyone else (Mumsnet is run by them by the looks of it) and dismiss any point of view other than their own as ‘trolling’. This is why Labour is basically unelectable. As if the prospect of AR running the country isn’t horrific enough, you’re also sneered at by her minions, most of whom are spoilt, privileged brats.

Well thats time i'll not get back reading that tripe

NO ONE in the real world cares about identity politics

You keep on telling yourself that.

In a world that contains the Cass Review, House of Lords debates, EHRC and the many men and women who actually do.

'This is why Labour is basically unelectable

"Basically" doing a lot of heavy lifting there.

Labour have been leading in polls for 4 months straight, Starmer's personal ratings are double digits ahead of Johnson's, and Labour - for the first time in living memory - is more trusted on the economy, which will be one the defining issues of the next election. The next two years are going to be a disposable income clusterfuck.

This isn't Corbyn v Johnson round 2. Yet so many pretend it is.

So she slept her way out of poverty and to the top of the Labour party? thats quite an accusation as its the only way to take your post.

Also, what a slur on the '000s who have voted her in as an MP, she must have been very busy.

Whereas more rational people, whilst disagreeing with her politics, could at least accept that she worked very hard to "better" herself, got an education, got involved in first a union and then in Labour and pushed hard to be selected as a candidate.

IF BJ has achieved this but still been exactly the same in all other respects, i would have respected his hard work and determination.

I wonder why you cannot give her any credit... perhaps some deep seated hatred of women and/or teenage mums.

If Amazon were hit with a tax then who would end up paying it? Yep - US!!

The reason I would consider this as a good thing, would be that it if Amazon passed on the cost of tax it would be paid by the people using their service and the more someone used it the more they would pay.

That seems a reasonable way to work out who should pay tax. Not charging Amazon and instead spreading the cost across all taxpayers according to their income.

I don't actually know that much about her, which I'm afraid is what's wrong with the current Labour Party. Despite being basically left leaning and interested enough to read news pages most days, they're not getting their message to me.

That said, regardless of whether you like her or agree with her politics, surely to have achieved what she has from her beginnings is huge? I work with girls of similar background and that they can see this might be possible is tremendous.

@SleeplessInEngland that's not what I said, is it?

Where's the logic in repeatedly calling early elections when you don't need to?