To think this is actually great PR for Angela Rayner?

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61213711

I'm suprised the Mail article cause such a stir. And it's way more offensive to Boris than Angela. I think she's come off really well from this, raises her profile. I wouldn't be suprised if this was entirely made up by the journo and there is no leak.

Simply question can you answer why isn’t Labour further ahead in the polls ?

they really really should be

www.markpack.org.uk/155623/voting-intention-opinion-poll-scorecard/

11% in one, behind in all of them. Works for me. 🤷‍♀️

From +2 to +11

lets be generous and say +8

In last month one places them +3 point change most are no change and a some a drop (very small drop) -1 or -2

given this last month alone that is not good

I hope the party are not as pleased because they should have higher expectations for the party

Powerful words from Anne Marie Travaleyan to @SkyNews - tells @KamaliMelbourne “all of us women in parliament have been subjected to inappropriate language, to wandering hands.” She warns colleagues “if you’re a bloke please keep your hands in your pockets and behave yourself.”

Fairly obvious, Labours 2019 defeat was huge, we are just 3 years into the Tories landslide victory (in terms of seats) and that takes time to turn around, the Corbyn leadership has left a bitter test in many voters mouths.

National emergency and war are usually good for an incumbent Govt, yet the Tories are mired in scandal & economic woes, not too mention being completely out of touch.

I think Lab have done well to turn a 12pt deficient into an approx 8pt lead, thats quite a swing.

"if you’re a bloke please keep your hands in your pockets and behave yourself”

Hmm, they could still get up to mischief...Arms firmly at their sides I think. Maybe the Parliamentary Estate could invest in some clamps to do the job. A Scold's Bridle for perves.

As for Johnson being a political powerhouse he is it’s that simple he is very popular with voters he always has been. Hence why the Tory Party have a very large majority.

You deal in a lot of sweeping generalisations, but this is flat-out horseshit. Johnson is the second most unpopular cabinet member among voters right now - only Sunak is faring worse. Johnson isn't even popular with tory members.

She should have called it what it is "Sexual Assault"

This behavior from MPs who make our laws and represent voters, its completely outrageous, any MP found guilty should be sacked and charged by the Police.... but we all know that wont happen.

If you look at the polls Party Gate did huge damage. It emotionally resonated with people and in large part to DC who is good at this.

Re the idea they should be better in crisis I don’t think this correlates to say France where Macron (who probably more like on here) has been hit but not defeated.

I don’t know how the GE will go, it’s some time off and iirc Johnson is not standing.

re op - the story is irritating in this day and age, I’m annoyed we are subject to it but I did hear similar on both sides - eg Labour too. It sounds as if it’s a toxic work environment for women generally. It should be addressed.

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Oh I agree with you.

'wandering hands' and 'keeping hands in pockets' is like telling off a child.

As for Johnson being a political powerhouse he is it’s that simple he is very popular with voters he always has been. Hence why the Tory Party have a very large majority.

For the last election as it was a landslide, it’s obvious he was a popular vote

But I think the party is trying to work out the extent of damage and if he is still an electoral asset, or not. The local elections might give a steer but the GE is far away so it’s not entirely useful. I thought he had confirmed he wouldn’t stand, not sure if anyone else picked this up.

Johnson managed to get just 43% of the electorate to vote for him on a low turnout of 67%.

Hardly a powerhouse performance.

Thatcher got 76% on 44% of the electorate in 1979.

Our FPTP system often makes parties appear to get a landslide and hence portrayed as hugely popular but the reality is BJ, Blair and Thatcher all got in on around 43/44% of the voting electorate.

He got what? An 80 seat majority

I know this idea it’s low comes up but look at the majority landslide.

Blair did too.

I have no issue with recognising landslides, it makes sense

I think either party would be happy with that next time.

"Come 2024, the Party does not need to lose by a Major-style landslide to forfeit power: they can lose their majority while being ahead on votes. Under their current leader, they risk sleepwalking to electoral defeat.
There is one silver lining to all of this for Conservatives. Voters’ scathing commentary, at the moment, is reserved for the Prime Minister rather than the wider party. Without Johnson, it is possible to see a significant transformation to the Party’s electoral fortunes, especially with Labour still floundering to seal the deal with voters.

Article by James Johnson (cofounder if JL Partners) on Conservative Home
Worth a read.

www.conservativehome.com/platform/2022/04/james-johnson-the-polling-is-clear-johnson-is-now-a-fatal-drag-on-conservative-fortunes.html

Your missing the point, approx 43% of the vote can get you a 13 seat majority or a 179 one.
Of course any party would be happy with a 80 seat margin, but that doesn't make the leader of the winning party a "Powerhouse"

Our fptp system is rather odd, which is why hardly anyone uses it.

I didn’t use that term but a landslide is a useful one.

And a landslide is good for any party as a majority.

I prefer to consider whether someone is an electoral asset or not. I heard that the other day on the radio and it makes sense. I don’t know if he would be, the dithering from his party I would say is down to working out if he still is.

However as I said I thought Johnson had confirmed he wouldn’t be standing at next GE.

And we're still waiting for him to apologise for repeatedly lying to Parliament.

Oh look, Michael Fabricant apologises for his intemperate and inaccurate comments about nurses and teachers partying on after work during Covid. Any apologies forthcoming on here from pp's. No? That's what I thought.