AIBU to wonder why so many people assume Johnny Depp is the good guy and Amber Heard is the villain? ..

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People (from what I am reading in a variety of places on the internet) seem to have decided this even before the trial has been concluded. Presumably, we won't know all of the evidence until the trial ends.

The previous trial in the UK concluded that there was indeed evidence that JD was indeed a wife beater. How come everyone feels that they are sure previous trial had the wrong verdict?

I think people mean "walk away" rather than stand there and film. If you were scare of someone would you do that and risk further angering them? I certainly wouldn't.

Without this court case amber had positioned herself as the victim and the victim only and it is that action that has resulted in many changing their opinions (they may change back next week) as the trial progresses. That is on her, that has damaged domestic violence victims. Stretching the truth for your own narrative leaves the actual truths you have now then questionable. The toxicity of this relationship should have been resolved with them both seeking help and being better people.

But there are good reasons to say it wasn’t your fault, and many people would want to prove this. Why should abused people have to go through a no fault divorce?!

This!

I’ve already posted about living with my alcoholic dad and sometimes literally ALL you can do is stand there (moving away can anger them, and believe it nor not they can and will follow you), and desperately hope that it de-escalates soon. You stand there thinking “this can’t go on forever, it will stop at some point, bide his time u til you get to that point”. If you’re used to these violent temper, sometimes loooooong bouts of using calming words does actually work - you learn that quickly. Walking away saying nothing, or sticking up for yourself, can often be the absolute worst thing you can do.

if only I had you lot to tell me where I was going wrong, who knew I could just wALk aWAY

It reminds me of the thickos who say “Why didn’t she just walk away!” WRT domestic violence

Except it was Amber who would not let Johnny walk away.

According to JD - who apparently doesn’t require the level of evidence AH does

If u r scared if ur life and worried he is going to attack u , can I ask why u would constantly ask what is up ? Like why keep talking to him it was clear he didn't want to speak to her, have nothing to do with her , my guess is provoke because u know u r recording and hoping to provoke reaction that u can use in a court case. It's just so levels of wrong.

And also what about the recording of her saying tell him well goding him saying "tell the world, I johhny depp is a victim of domestic abuse and see who belives u?! , honestly does victims say that to their abusers? that sounds something a abuser says!

Also after admiting on recording she hits him and gasligting, telling him it didn't hurt what she did! Honestly it's insane !

@Newrunner29 - read my post above about calmly talking until it simmers down.

what SHOULD she have said anyway? Go on, seeing as you know exactly how people should and shouldn’t have behaved in these situations? And if the answer is ‘walk away’ - what if he follows her?

Eh? What do you think a no fault divorce is? What do abused people have to "go through" to get it compared with a divorce where you do have to prove fault??

I would say from the recording so evidence , he doesn't have a problem walking away, he actually did it quite a lot and it was her who would actively stop him . So I would say its fair to say he wouldn't follow her!!

*Multiple recordings

I’ve already posted about living with my alcoholic dad and sometimes literally ALL you can do is stand there (moving away can anger them, and believe it nor not they can and will follow you), and desperately hope that it de-escalates soon. You stand there thinking “this can’t go on forever, it will stop at some point, bide his time u til you get to that point”. If you’re used to these violent temper, sometimes loooooong bouts of using calming words does actually work - you learn that quickly. Walking away saying nothing, or sticking up for yourself, can often be the absolute worst thing you can do.

I bet you didn't stand there and film him though did you?

But she clearlywasn't using calming words trying to de escalate him at all! she kept asking him what the matter was! Doesn't sound very de escalating!

what SHOULD she have said anyway? Go on, seeing as you know exactly how people should and shouldn’t have behaved in these situations? And if the answer is ‘walk away’ - what if he follows her?

Id put my house and my life savings on him not following her.

He on the other hand is not allowed to walk away, he is told to 'stop being a baby' When he does walk away she follows him around to continue the argument. You don't just walk away from someone like that, it's a red rag to a bull. That is the difference.

Yes she should have shut up and known her place

man is angry the woman should be quiet to not anger him more otherwise who knows what he will be forced to do

🙄 ffs

Jesus, you are just making things up now. So you don’t have an answer for what she should have done - you just believe you know what she shouldn’t have done?!

Well camera phones weren’t around in the 90’s when I lived with him but if they were then absolutely YES I would have - to show someone, because they sure as hell don’t believe you when you tell them.

would that have been wrong of me, as a child?

Exactly.

How completely embarrassing to be an abuse apologiser just because you fancy a celebrity.

What am I making up?? What a ridiculous statament , you mentioned if he would follow her and I explained using evidence so not just my opinion that I would think he definitely wouldn't!

“your evidence” 🤣 are you his lawyer? Do you know him? You just do seeing as you’d know exactly what his actions would be in a particular situation. So, SO weird

The whole we must be fans of his to belive him is just so untrue! I've already said, I'm not a fan of his I haven't watched many of his movies think a few. I just belive him. And don't belive her from what I've heard and seen at the trial . Peopleton have to be fans of someone to belive they have been abused!

I'm talking about the tape recordings of his and her voice but u already know that that! 🙄

Well looks like I have the last post:

PSA:

Stop holding women to a higher standard than men for the same, or lesser, situation. It’s sexist and makes you look fucking stupid. Good night