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To expect my husband to have a basic understanding of how the female body works?

182 replies

Noeggsinmybasket · 23/04/2022 23:13

I’ve suspected for the last year or so that I’ve been going through peri menopause. I’m 38, my mum started the menopause at 40.

My dh mentioned Ronaldo this evening and how horrible it was that he and his partner had lost their baby. I agreed, it is awful. I said to him that it was an emotive subject for me given that I lost our dc2’s twin during pregnancy. This in itself is something that dh has admitted to having forgotten about in the past (dc2 is only 6)… despite having been fully aware that I was miscarrying at the time and attending the scan and subsequent appointments at which we were told the baby was gone. I’m not really sure how someone can forget having lost a child.

Anyway, long story short… I mentioned to dh that I suspect I have a history of ovulating twice a month/releasing multiple eggs and that is why I am experiencing peri menopause at quite an early stage in life. He didn’t understand this at all. He said oh yes, you thought you were going through menopause when you were pregnant with dc1 (I most certainly did not). He just doesn’t seem to understand the concept of women having a finite amount of eggs, and that if indeed I have been releasing two a month on a regular basis they are likely to be expended at a faster rate, leading to menopause. Is this really such an alien concept? I’m not sure if I’m expecting too much? He got the hump at my exasperation and the night has ended on a sour note. It’s upsetting because I wasn’t looking for an argument, just a conversation and some acknowledgment.

OP posts:
Kat1953 · 25/04/2022 20:05

NeverDropYourMooncup · 25/04/2022 19:29

Why would a man know about ovarian reserve if a) it's not his job and b) it's not related to seeking fertility treatment?

Girls aren't even told about it - probably because schools are far more focused upon giving them the information they need to not get pregnant at an early age - classes saying 'by the way, your eggs will run out and you could be unable to have children if you leave it too late' would lead to at least some thinking they'd better get on with it.

If men were taught it in school as boys, you just know they'd end up mansplaining it women in their 20s....

EmpressoftheMundane · 25/04/2022 20:11

My husband thought women could hold in their menstrual blood. He has a mother, a sister, two teenaged daughters, and has lived with me for over 20 years.

Maydaysoonenough · 25/04/2022 20:18

My periods are quite floody the second day. (Dh has commented previously that despite having had dc I am still quite tight.. 😳..) Last month he said it was lucky I am as I would flood more if I wasn't!
I give up. Truly.

bellac11 · 25/04/2022 20:28

Kat1953 · 25/04/2022 20:05

If men were taught it in school as boys, you just know they'd end up mansplaining it women in their 20s....

I used this phrase earlier in the thread as a tongue in cheek. But I hate the phrase, its a nonsense attack on men and as can be seen from the need to correct knowlege bases of women, a lot of explaining is needed.

Hmm1234 · 25/04/2022 21:27

Leave him alone. Speaking as a women with 2 dc experienced 3 miscarriages. I don’t thing anyone understands the menopause until it’s then going through it. How you explained it doesn’t sound easy to understand

StarCourt · 25/04/2022 21:28

My ex husband thought that All womens periods only lasted one day. I didn’t know this until he got really shirty about having no sex for a week every month, he’d assumed I was lying about period pain and flooding to get out of it. He was 36 at the time. Mind you he also claims The Holocaust never happened.

ittakes2 · 25/04/2022 22:08

I am sorry I am not sure your idea has anything science about it. My older sister had 7 rounds of ivf and I had 3 rounds of ivf. So for each round we were triggered to produce lots of extra eggs but I went through menopause in my early 50/51/52 ahead of my sister who went through it about 53/54.

ittakes2 · 25/04/2022 22:11

When we had ivf I was telling my m’n’law my husband thought babies were created when the sperm developed a head and legs - a bit like a tadpole turning into a frog. As I laughed myself hysterically my m’n’law rather tentatively admitted to me she thought that’s what happened too - and she had given birth three times! So I am sorry I am not surprised that your hubby is not up to knowledge on menopause.

Bluesparkled · 25/04/2022 22:11

Well. That cleared a few things up- thanks OP.

Kat1953 · 25/04/2022 22:27

@bellac11 also tongue-in-cheek but triggered by a guy 'mansplaining' to me earlier. I usually wouldn't be so flippant.

mathanxiety · 26/04/2022 04:14

@EmpressoftheMundane is it possible he believes women pee through our vaginas so should be able to hold in our mentrual blood just as we can hold in pee?

homemadecookie · 26/04/2022 05:36

Well done op for coming back and being so gracious. As a mum of twins I can only imagine how awful that must have been for you then and now. 💐
I'm not very good at adding links, but Google

'MEN... let's talk menopause by Ruth Devlin '

www.vitalsource.com/en-uk/products/men-let-s-talk-menopause-ruth-devlin-v9781788600828?duration=perpetual

Parentsofaprincess · 26/04/2022 10:00

bellac11 · 23/04/2022 23:20

Where do you think he would have learnt this stuff?

Biology lessons at school, internet, just bloody read and learn and support your wife. It is not hard!

Parentsofaprincess · 26/04/2022 10:00

bellac11 · 23/04/2022 23:20

Where do you think he would have learnt this stuff?

Biology lessons at school, internet, just bloody read and learn and support your wife. It is not hard!

ancientgran · 26/04/2022 11:51

me4real · 24/04/2022 22:46

@ancientgran Oooh that's very lucky by all accounts. So there's hope Grin

Yes there is hope and I think it is important to acknowledge how hard it can be but also that it isn't always like that.

AryaStarkWolf · 26/04/2022 11:56

YANBU about being disgusted that he forgot you'd miscarried one of your twins but the biology stuff yeah YABU about that tbf

gamerchick · 26/04/2022 11:59

Youdoyoutoday · 23/04/2022 23:22

You're trying to explain something to a man who forgot one of his own children died......

Wow!

This. He obviously doesn't give any thought to this sort of stuff at all. I don't know why you're surprised.

I'll.bet he thinks women wee out of their vagina as well.

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 26/04/2022 12:07

I had a hysterectomy at 40. A female friend who was 10 years younger asked if I would still have periods. 🤔

SleeplessInEngland · 26/04/2022 12:09

I don't know what boys are taught in school now but men over 25 almost certainly didn't learn the details of ovulation when they went. In fact most men and women only really learn about this stuff when trying to conceive.

MaryMcCarthy · 26/04/2022 13:40

Is this whole thread a wind up?

The OP clearly does not understand how ovulation works. Are we being lampooned?

bellac11 · 26/04/2022 15:24

Theres all sorts of health issues that all of us are not informed/educated about to some degree or another

Recently I was talking to my manager, we both have elderly parents, she was not aware of how dangerous urine infections are and how they can mimic the signs of dementia in the elderly

I know enough people that think that being cold, can give you a cold

Just a couple of examples that as a society there are all sorts of confusions and myths or old wives tales or general lack of knowledge that people have about the human body and how it works. Its therefore not terrible/neglectful/lacking in support for men not to know this stuff (when large numbers of women also dont know this stuff)

Iflyaway · 26/04/2022 15:37

I asked a group of male friends where they thought girls weed from and they all thought it was from the vagina.

OMG. That is shocking.

gamerchick · 26/04/2022 15:45

Tbf some wimmin think the same thing. Take tampons out so they can wee type of thing

Stravaig · 26/04/2022 16:05

Glad we got the biology untangled, OP!
To add another random data point - I'm 50, no breaks in ovulation due to birth control or pregnancy, and still bleed like clockwork every month.

Crumbler · 26/04/2022 17:16

The title of this thread is wrong. Knowledge is not the same as understanding. If nobody ever taught you something - eg the intricacies of the female reproductive system - you'll never know. As the OP ironically demonstrated.