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To say parenting is boring?

205 replies

BoredYummyMummy · 22/04/2022 20:05

I’m bored of; the shitty nappies, the crying, the whining, the coaxing to do absolutely everything, the cheery ‘well done’s’ as they do the same fucking thing agaiiiin, the infinite laundry, the tantrums, the streams of snot and oh my god I’m bored of fucking BING

Any sane human has to find the repetition bone achingly boring?

OP posts:
Waxonwaxoff0 · 23/04/2022 12:48

Comedycook · 23/04/2022 12:44

Thing is you rarely hear men say this kind of stuff do you? Yes I know loads of men who truly love their kids and would do anything for them... including my DH but you don't really hear them say that their life was meaningless before they had kids or gush that their kids are their world....it is social control. Women are conditioned to believe that their lives are worthless without children and that they must love every single moment and if they don't, they're a bad mother. Keeps us in our place

I think that used to be the case but it isn't any more. There are tons of blogs, Instagram influencers, etc who discuss the reality of parenting nowadays and that it isn't always great. No one on Mumsnet says you must love every minute of parenting, no one I know in real life believes that either.

Sofiegiraffe · 23/04/2022 12:48

@Comedycook

No one has said their life was "meaningless" or "worthless" prior to kids. Well, I certainly haven't. My life was fine before kids - I enjoyed lots of aspects of it. But I didn't know then what being a mum would add to my life. Now I know that, I can confidently say being a mum is the most fulfilled I've ever been. I still enjoy other things, of course I do. I've spent 15 years studying for a building a career that I still do now because, despite how hard it is leaving my youngest to work (she's only 1), my job also makes me feel fulfilled in very different way. So... I don't think anyone is using terms like worthless or meaningless in relation to their pre child life. Just that they recognise it as the most fulfilling aspect of their lives now.

bellebeautifu1 · 23/04/2022 12:53

I agree about the chores, and also when I was a solo mum it was just the lack of adult conversation, my work kept me sane even if I wasnt wild about my job because I got to work with adults.

I liked the 'fun' things of parenting, teaching her to ride her bike, building snowman etc, watching her play sport. The benefits far outweigh some of the drudgery. I am pretty lucky in that aside some physical health issues my DD was a laidback kid / teen (obviously there were the teenage meltdowns and toddler tantrums but broadly speaking she wasnt hard work to raise).

GoFishandChips · 23/04/2022 13:00

It's just not acceptable to say you can't be arsed teaching colours to the child you decided to have. It's not cute, it's not funny, it's awful.

This! I've got one, it's all I can handle. I thought I'd have more but the reality is that I can only be a good mum to one. I'm sure people think they are being helpful when they bring out that old chestnut about how two are easier because they play together but if someone is finding one thing difficult you don't double the workload on the off chance that it might get easier at some unforeseeable point in the future.

OP I feel you, I hope it gets easier for you, I have days like this as well. We need to stop guilting each other for the choices we made and start supporting each other, it's good to be honest. I've waived recently imagining a picture-perfect life with another but this thread has given me a jolt I needed of reality.

Purspectivepulease · 23/04/2022 13:07

It’s definitely interesting to hear the questions people ask when returning to work.

man returns after 14 fucking days: hey, how was it, awh are you tired, best thing ever isn’t it etc

woman returns after 180 days: gosh that’s early, who has got the kids, that’s a long day, what about their bonding and attachment, you look good considering, your grandma stayed off for years why aren’t you, awh the nursery will be good for them.. eventually.

😂😂😂😂😂
There is something in this social control, whether you want to believe it or not. I don’t think that’s the only reason women enjoy their children. There’s a lot of hormones at play too.

Giraffesandbottoms · 23/04/2022 13:10

@Waxonwaxoff0

i fully agree with everything you’re saying and appreciate it, thank you. I think it’s absurd that people are calling my point of view depressing or insisting I must be lying because I enjoy something that I’m fairly sure im biologically designed to do (and it’s totally fine if people don’t enjoy it or don’t want to - but pretending that enjoying mothering is a social construct for everyone is as nonsensical as it is patronising and offensive).

im sorry that not everyone enjoys parenting. I have sympathy for those who have 1 and thought it would be different; or have had a chance oF circumstance. Having one and disliking it and having more is not something I have sympathy for and I think @pixie5121 your attitude is fantastic and I which more people thought things through as you have done, so that children don’t feel like an annoyance or a burden.

Giraffesandbottoms · 23/04/2022 13:10

*wish, not which

Comedycook · 23/04/2022 13:12

Agree with @Purspectivepulease
It's a combination of hormones and social conditioning. Motherhood is objectively shit...lack of sleep, housework, exhaustion, loss of freedom and spontaneity, worry, stress etc. If we didn't love our DC, we'd walk away but no matter how bad it gets we continue to do it because of love and expectations.

Favourodds · 23/04/2022 13:12

I don't understand why this (and every conversation around parenting young children) has to get so intense.

It's possible to be a perfectly lovely loving mum and be bored and not....a disorganised slave to the patriarchy who is wasting their life because they're forced to by society. It can just be Friday night and you wish you weren't doing laundry.

I find my toddler endlessly interesting, I'm not mad at people who find their toddlers boring. I mean, I assume you're not going to come to my house and tell my toddler she's boring...? It's possible for me to enjoy this phase and have empathy for people who don't...

BobbinHood · 23/04/2022 13:16

It can be very, very repetitive and relentless. It’s getting less so for me now and we have one child so the worst of the monotonous stuff is definitely behind me.

I don’t really relate to people who lament the monotony/boredom/relentlessness and how hard it is and then have a 2nd/3rd/4th child expecting something different.

Purspectivepulease · 23/04/2022 13:25

I’m fairly sure im biologically designed to do

yep, and you’ll be getting a fisting from all the love/happy hormones every time they: look into your eyes, touch your skin, hug you, kiss you, get soothed by your presence etc..

Giraffesandbottoms · 23/04/2022 13:32

@Purspectivepulease

im very happy to be told I’m a slave to my hormones and a sucker for the oxytocin - I’m just not prepared to be told I’m
content due to social conditioning.

Youcansaythatagainandagain · 23/04/2022 13:37

BobbinHood · 23/04/2022 13:16

It can be very, very repetitive and relentless. It’s getting less so for me now and we have one child so the worst of the monotonous stuff is definitely behind me.

I don’t really relate to people who lament the monotony/boredom/relentlessness and how hard it is and then have a 2nd/3rd/4th child expecting something different.

In my case one was lovely, it was quite a special time. Thought having a second would be great and figuring DC2 might take a long time to arrive started trying as soon as DC1 turned one year. DC2 arrived very quickly. Nice enough child but we are completely overwhelmed and under awed by two children and I regret it terribly.
Nothing on earth would convince me to ever have a third child.
Perhaps three years plus age gaps, if time is on your side, should be obligatory. Perhaps having children in your twenties so you haven’t as many memories of freedom should be obligatory. I don’t know the answers.

A friend tries hard to say her city breaks are more frequent and better stringing two children along. Nothing she can ever say will convince me this will ever be too true.

Comedycook · 23/04/2022 13:49

Giraffesandbottoms · 23/04/2022 13:32

@Purspectivepulease

im very happy to be told I’m a slave to my hormones and a sucker for the oxytocin - I’m just not prepared to be told I’m
content due to social conditioning.

Of course social conditioning plays a part...it plays a part in everything we do without us even realising it

BoredYummyMummy · 23/04/2022 14:06

two are easier because they play together

They can fuck off with this.
This can go in the same box as BING, ‘drowsy but awake’, they’ll sleep better when they’re on solids and bottle fed babies sleep better.
Fuckety fuck off because it’s all lies that people just say.. like anything remotely related to cough/cold/diarrhoea/gnawing/crying and my Nans generation (all the ones I’ve met anyway) say awwww teething. Then when it comes to them actually teething they go awwwwww tired, they’re tired. K’in Ellllll

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Giraffesandbottoms · 23/04/2022 14:25

*two are easier because they play together

They can fuck off with this*

some of the aggression on this thread is extremely unreasonable. In YOUR experience this may not be the case. My 3 year old and 1 year old play together frequently. The 3 year old teaches the 1 year old to speak. Lots of their play is running around like hooligans but they are laughing and it’s nice. Again I’m sorry if that’s not the case for you but it does and can happen.

Perhaps three years plus age gaps, if time is on your side, should be obligatory

but again, some people enjoy a smaller gap.

honestly I’m sorry some people are having a bad time and not enjoying parenting but it’s not correct to just try to drag other people down with this sort of crap.

GoFishandChips · 23/04/2022 14:55

some of the aggression on this thread is extremely unreasonable. In YOUR experience this may not be the case. My 3 year old and 1 year old play together frequently.

It's lovely that yours do, the problem is so many people trot this out as fact as in if you have two it will be easier, and that's probably why the OP is so angry, she was probably told/is told that two is/will be easier and it's not helpful as it isn't the case for everyone, I'm not even sure it's the case for the majority!

Giraffesandbottoms · 23/04/2022 15:05

@GoFishandChips

thats fair, but I wouldn’t have children on the advice of others! The thing I definitely did feel tricked by was the “rocking them and putting them down and them staying asleep” though 😃 I’m sure some peoples did that but mine never did. I just had to mentally adapt to holding them for all naps for 6 months 🤪.

alwaysmovingforwards · 23/04/2022 15:28

Purspectivepulease · 23/04/2022 13:07

It’s definitely interesting to hear the questions people ask when returning to work.

man returns after 14 fucking days: hey, how was it, awh are you tired, best thing ever isn’t it etc

woman returns after 180 days: gosh that’s early, who has got the kids, that’s a long day, what about their bonding and attachment, you look good considering, your grandma stayed off for years why aren’t you, awh the nursery will be good for them.. eventually.

😂😂😂😂😂
There is something in this social control, whether you want to believe it or not. I don’t think that’s the only reason women enjoy their children. There’s a lot of hormones at play too.

Interesting.
Do you think this social control you mention is ‘society’ or the merely judgements of mothers by mothers?
Genuine question, not goading.

I’m familiar with those phrases when returning from work, but IME men and women without children don’t really give a fig who’s looking after your kids or how quickly you returned - that’s your decision you’ve made behind the scenes for your own reasons.
Focus is that you’re now back to work, things to do, so let’s crack on eh.

MangyInseam · 23/04/2022 15:46

Toloveandtowork · 23/04/2022 10:05

There is a lot of cognitive dissonance in mothering. If it's 90 per cent boring, you lose your identity and are basically a slave for many years, how can it be worth it? My guess is that carrying on regardless means you get to avoid the social stigma and shame that is piled on if you are a 'bad mother'. Social conditioning basically with shame being the tool which keeps us in line. It seems to me we get 'love them' shoved down our throats.
I've thought a lot about this and have read lots and my conclusion is that humans have not evolved to parent in couples, or even worse, alone. Our children are difficult to bring up and we need an actual village most of the time.
We haven't evolved physiologically beyond our hunter gatherer days when all adults were actively involved with the care and entertainment of children.
Our nervous systems haven't evolved beyond that system, so no wonder we find it so hard to have small family units.
Add a badly behaved child in the mix and mother's nervous system can go into shutdown (losing yourself). The same mother is expected to regulate her child's nervous system and bring the child up to be a functional well rounded adult, while being judged and blamed. A total shit show that isn't going away any time soon.
I find it boring and restrictive still and my youngest is ten.
Having said that, I enjoyed when my oldest was a baby and toddler, although it was very hard. Didn't enjoy the youngest as much as it's incredibly hard with two.
I'm still doing my best.

I think there is a real misunderstanding here that different kinds of work are not the same, even if both involve boring elements.

Lots of the work of everyday life, including related to kids, is boring, but it's also important. Something like research work in a lab can often be tedious and boring, but you know it has an important purpose. Managing that is totally different than working on a factory line making singing fish to sell for gags that waste resources and only enrich the factory owner.

People need meaning in their work.

While I'd agree totally that the isolation of modern society is bad for parents and mums in particular, there are also certain social attitudes we learn that also make it harder. One being the expectation we often have that we shouldn't be bored. This isn't so much a conscious thing anyone would say seriously, but there is a strong tendency for us to feel resentment at boring repetative work, and almost as if we deserve more. And society doesn't put much value on unpaid work. So it's harder for us to feel it's valuable and also to avoid feeling ill used when it is boring. The constant stream of innovation and entertainment probably doesn't help us deal with boring tasks either.

Herejustforthisone · 23/04/2022 15:54

It’s SO boring. I wouldn’t change it as that would mean erasing my toddler and I do quite like him but fuck me, it’s so tedious in the main.

MangyInseam · 23/04/2022 15:54

Favourodds · 23/04/2022 13:12

I don't understand why this (and every conversation around parenting young children) has to get so intense.

It's possible to be a perfectly lovely loving mum and be bored and not....a disorganised slave to the patriarchy who is wasting their life because they're forced to by society. It can just be Friday night and you wish you weren't doing laundry.

I find my toddler endlessly interesting, I'm not mad at people who find their toddlers boring. I mean, I assume you're not going to come to my house and tell my toddler she's boring...? It's possible for me to enjoy this phase and have empathy for people who don't...

I always wonder what kinds of jobs people who say stuff like that have. Because for a lot of people being in your own home doing your own laundry for yourself and your own family is probably a lot more satisfying than washing them for some other person, selling people stuff in a shop, or doing what a lot of women do and wiping other people's kids noses.

I find toddlers pretty interesting too, FWIW. Though I don't try and play with them or anything which helps with regard to being bored.

Herejustforthisone · 23/04/2022 17:21

Comedycook · 23/04/2022 11:55

driving with them asleep in the car, knowing I have them, is infinitely better than any holiday I ever took

Yikes...that's depressing.

😆

Favourodds · 23/04/2022 17:45

I don't understand what my job has to do with my enjoyment of my child, to be honest.

Favourodds · 23/04/2022 18:02

Because you can't possibly be suggesting that I should recognise that being at home to do your washing is a privilege. That would be utterly absurd.

You know working class women, those who wipe other children's snot up, find housework boring too, right?