To think 8am to 6pm at nursery/school+wraparound is just too much

[magicsoosh]

Apparently Mon-Fri 8am to 6pm childcare is normal.. AIBU to think that's a lot? That's more hours than most full time jobs

My kids normally do from 7.40-5.30PM in school /wraparound care, 3 days a week (sometimes 4.) They love it and always want to go. It works for some.

[quote BIWI]@Tillsforthrills

Can you see how utterly hypocritical you are? Unless this is some sort of joke you sound unhinged

What on earth about my post makes me hypocritical?!

I think women who espouse the sort of views that Fairy expressed don't deserve to have the vote. Or to other rights that have been so hard-fought for, for women, by other women.[/quote]
That’s different to the batshit crazy suggestions you made in your original post.

How 'batshit crazy'?

Oh I don’t know, maybe taking away women’s rights to vote that don’t agree with your opinion and turning them into a third entity of hand maids.

Well yes. (Although clearly it was a hyperbolic response - based on frustration with Fairy's posts!)

But why should someone who is so clearly disparaging of women's rights actually be able to benefit from them?

I somehow doubt fairy will be back, at least under that name.

@BIWI

Thankfully, women like her are in the minority!

[quote Tillsforthrills]@BIWI

Thankfully, women like her are in the minority![/quote]
Who knows who is or isn't a woman on here

@worriedatthistime

Why are you continuously telling me what I think?!

I was not offended by the OP, I disagree and posted an opposing viewpoint, with details of my personal experience.

I AM offended that you keep making false statements about my intent or my feelings.

My middle and youngest were in childcare full time from a year. There was no alternative. They both adapted to it.i guess in an ideal world they would have stayed home with a mumsy mum who loved every second. Instead they had a mum who frankly could not do that.
Luckily for us there was a solution.

I can’t comment on whether full long days are too much for nursery children because I don’t have much experience of that, but I work in KS1 and full time wraparound is too much for those children.

We have a wonderful after school club and children that only go one or two days a week love it, but others that go every day often don’t want to and it’s heartbreaking when they cry that they just want to go home after school. Especially when the prospect of going to ASC has them feeling deflated for half the day before it and they can’t concentrate on learning because of it. I’ve known a couple of children who weren’t coping well with full time care whose parents decided to reduce their hours at work so that they could be picked up by a parent every day, and it’s like their children have become different people afterwards. They were so much happier, better behaved and much more settled, and when you’ve seen transformations like that it’s hard to agree that wraparound care is in the best interests of children.

There are a few children that take it in their stride and cope with it no problem, but IME they are the minority.

It is long but perhaps a result of some people having no alternative to help ends meet. Or because of having a manager stuck in the last century who expects them in an office five days a week when the job can be productively done part at home, part in the office.

OP if you’re still interested, it seems a long day but it’s usually well set up for them at each age with naps, free play etc. My two both went 8-6, 5 days a week, they are very well adjusted, polite(ish) teenagers. No regrets here.

They went to a fantastic nursery in SE London that had wonderful staff who loved the kids and worked hard to make their days fun.

I agree I think it's really sad and awful. Poor kids. So basically away from their parent(s) the entire day apart from a couple of hours at bedtime? We've sacrificed every single luxury so I can be home and mother the children properly

Behave!

The kids will barely even remember. Or, in my kids' cases, look back fondly on the various people they met.

2 hours with ds in the morning (including a precious cuddle in bed), 2+ hours in the evening of "awake" time, plus every weekend plus 25 days holidays plus bank holidays, versus the childminder looking after him for 10 hours during the day, about 4 of which ds was asleep (he was always a good sleeper and had two naps a day until he was over 3 ).

Happy going in, happy coming out. Even at 21, he still has happy memories of his time at the childminder. And as far as I am aware , he is a secure, confident young man who loves his parents (and is loved by us).

I'm comfortable with my choices

I think it’s really sad and awful that you’re raising your children to have such outdated ideas.

Mine will see that women can have fulfilling careers as well as a family. They will learn that mummy’s job is just as important as daddy’s.

@Satsumaonaplate

im presuming your post is sarcasm

if not though…wow! I’m sorry, so much sacrifice must have been utterly miserable

Hoping you're being sarcastic 🤞🏻🤞🏻

Good for you. Other people mother (and father) their children properly while also sending them to nursery.

My older children are teenagers and they still remember their nursery which they absolutely loved. I still have their leaving diaries and they love looking at the photos and observations written by nursery staff.
In an ideal world I'd have loved to be a SAHM until they started school (I was a SAHM some of the time).
My son now goes to nursery and again ideally I'd like to stay at home but you know things like bills and food have to be paid.
Hasn't harmed my teenagers and pretty sure it won't affect my son either.