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To end a friendship due to his use of sex workers?

318 replies

Cornishjam1162 · 11/04/2022 11:45

It has recently come to light that a friend of 15 years is a regular customer of sex workers. We have always wondered why he never wanted to date again after getting a divorce and now it makes sense. I would have never had him down as the type and I'm shocked to say the least. I don't know the circumstances behind why the women do that line of work but there's always the risk that they're not doing it out of their own free will isn't there? I feel like he could well be exploiting vulnerable women.

Would you end a friendship over this? Am I being too judgemental?

OP posts:
Pennox · 20/05/2022 12:15

Haven't you got punters to see to?

Why are you so invested in getting people to believe all is fine in prostitution. They don't and it's not.

Would you want your daughter doing it if on OnlyFans?

misssatan · 20/05/2022 12:45

KettrickenSmiled · 20/05/2022 12:01

"You appear to be labouring under a misapprehension that PP owe you attention, Missy."

No, I don't care whether you respond or not. I will say what I think regardless.

I'm not the one trying to control the conversation and dictate who can speak and when. That's all you. Despite you saying you wouldn't speak to me again you are continuing to do to give me the 'attention' you say I'm not 'owed'.

KettrickenSmiled · 20/05/2022 12:56

Well, it is pretty funny how you can't let it lie, Missy.

You seem SO put out at being told that someone didn't want to speak to you.
Almost as if their wish to not communicate at that point was less important than your wish to hector them.

But now you're all put out that today, I decided to speak to you.

Are you usually this bothered by the comms habits of anonymous randoms? Because I'm sure there's help available.

Hawkins001 · 20/05/2022 15:08

Pennox · 20/05/2022 12:15

Haven't you got punters to see to?

Why are you so invested in getting people to believe all is fine in prostitution. They don't and it's not.

Would you want your daughter doing it if on OnlyFans?

I asked everyone's perspectives on onlyfans, still waiting for people's perspectives on it.

Hawkins001 · 20/05/2022 15:10

AdamRyan · 19/05/2022 22:35

In most industries the risk is assessed and minimised as far as possible.

There is a reason people argue for decriminalisation rather than legalisation. Because making it safe for the prostitute is only possible to the detriment of the punters experience.

Actually thought, not many professions cause foreseeable harm to the staff as if they did, the organisation would be sued under health and safety legislation

Do you have sources that you used to reach that perspective ?

KettrickenSmiled · 20/05/2022 15:23

AdamRyan: "the grass is so green today, & the sky a lovely clear blue"

Hawkins: "do you have citations for such an assertion? Kindly submit cross-references from at least 3 other sources. Also your credentials, in triplicate - & what do you mean by GREEN? Or for that matter BLUE? These things are open to statistical variance, & you need to provide a dissertation proving your academic perspective ..." cont p94 ...

To end a friendship due to his use of sex workers?
KettrickenSmiled · 20/05/2022 15:26

I asked everyone's perspectives on onlyfans, still waiting for people's perspectives on it.

& 'everyone' isn't answering you, so why not start your own thread?

Hawkins001 · 20/05/2022 16:19

KettrickenSmiled · 20/05/2022 15:26

I asked everyone's perspectives on onlyfans, still waiting for people's perspectives on it.

& 'everyone' isn't answering you, so why not start your own thread?

I appreciate your perspectives and I'll run the suggestion via the board and see what they conclude.

Hawkins001 · 20/05/2022 16:20

KettrickenSmiled · 20/05/2022 15:23

AdamRyan: "the grass is so green today, & the sky a lovely clear blue"

Hawkins: "do you have citations for such an assertion? Kindly submit cross-references from at least 3 other sources. Also your credentials, in triplicate - & what do you mean by GREEN? Or for that matter BLUE? These things are open to statistical variance, & you need to provide a dissertation proving your academic perspective ..." cont p94 ...

The board approves

Hawkins001 · 20/05/2022 16:26

KettrickenSmiled · 20/05/2022 15:23

AdamRyan: "the grass is so green today, & the sky a lovely clear blue"

Hawkins: "do you have citations for such an assertion? Kindly submit cross-references from at least 3 other sources. Also your credentials, in triplicate - & what do you mean by GREEN? Or for that matter BLUE? These things are open to statistical variance, & you need to provide a dissertation proving your academic perspective ..." cont p94 ...

Do you have any information for yellow and red classification ? Outlined here ?
www.gov.uk/government/publications/government-security-classifications

KettrickenSmiled · 20/05/2022 16:29

I appreciate your perspectives and I'll run the suggestion via the board and see what they conclude.

The board approves

😂😂😂

Thank you for your valuable update Hawkins.
You have a little satire in your soul after all, you sly old dog!

Have a fun weekend.

Hawkins001 · 20/05/2022 16:31

KettrickenSmiled · 20/05/2022 16:29

I appreciate your perspectives and I'll run the suggestion via the board and see what they conclude.

The board approves

😂😂😂

Thank you for your valuable update Hawkins.
You have a little satire in your soul after all, you sly old dog!

Have a fun weekend.

You too, have a good weekend, hopefully the weather will be nicer, although I'm outside a cafe, and it looks a mix of rain and 🌞 sun.

misssatan · 20/05/2022 17:01

KettrickenSmiled · Today 12:56

"Well, it is pretty funny how you can't let it lie, Missy."

If you respond to me I will reply to you. It's that simple. I am happy to go on talking. I never flounced off and told someone not to speak to me again. I like talking, even to people who disagree with me. Unlike you, I don't find disagreement stressful.

"You seem SO put out at being told that someone didn't want to speak to you."

Keep saying it and you might come to believe it. I said I didn't respond well to orders, particularly from random people on the internet. I still don't and I still don't care whether you replay or not.

You were the one who was supposed to not want to talk to me and yet here you still are, responding to everything I say.

"Almost as if their wish to not communicate at that point was less important than your wish to hector them."

How exactly do you 'hector' someone on a public forum? It's as stupid as your notion of consent. You have a very easy solution to this. Stop looking at this thread or keep looking at it and stop talking to me. What you can't do is stop me replying to what you say.

"But now you're all put out that today, I decided to speak to you."

No, you're speaking to me because you can't help yourself but you can't admit that, to yourself on anyone else.

"Are you usually this bothered by the comms habits of anonymous randoms? Because I'm sure there's help available."

I should look in the mirror when you say that.

KettrickenSmiled · 20/05/2022 17:04

I should look in the mirror when you say that.

Correct!

misssatan · 20/05/2022 20:33

I'm glad you agree.

Leopolds · 21/05/2022 06:50

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misssatan · 21/05/2022 08:00

AdamRyan · 19/05/2022 22:35

"There is a reason people argue for decriminalisation rather than legalisation."

People argue for decriminalisation because it has proven to be the best thing for the safety of sex workers. New Zealand's approach has been a vast improvement on any other way of dealing with the issue. It is what almost all sex workers want if you bother to ask them or read what they have written on the subject.

"Because making it safe for the prostitute is only possible to the detriment of the punters experience."

Perhaps you might like to explain how you come to that bizarre conclusion.

Pennox · 27/05/2022 19:22

news.sky.com/story/gang-jailed-after-being-found-guilty-of-modern-slavery-offences-12622338

Oh look, more not-sex trafficking not-happenning in not-London.

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