To be finished with voting Tory

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I've voted Tory in the last couple of elections. Didn't like Corbyn and thought Keir Stammer was a bit feeble. But after that smug performance by Sunak I am totally not going to vote Tory for a very long time. We are now in a position not to be affected too much by recent rises. Not always been that way of course. I wonder if others are feeling the same. But the lack of any sort of help for less well off people makes me absolutely sick. And all decided by a multi millionaire.

Ugh this. My ex is constantly Tory bashing on FB when he bloody voted for them!!! He was apparently 'tricked' and 'disillusioned' and therefore deserves empathy. It doesn't spout him from slinging shit at other Tory voters. He's such a fucking clueless and boring cliché.

Always makes me chuckle when people say ridiculous things like "I'm not voting until there's someone worth voting for" and "I'm abstaining" - that's a bit like saying "I dont like eating dog sh1t or earwax, so i wont order either.".... YOU REALISE YOU'RE GOING TO GET FORCE-FED ONE OR THE OTHER WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT SO YOU MAY AS WELL PICK THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS, RIGHT?!🤔

There's a certain type of person who dislikes a lot of the things happening in our country and doesn't equate it to the government in power.

Scary these people have the right to vote.

Probably the same people who had to be taught how to wash their hands as adults and still got it wrong.

Sounds right - in theory.

In practice? At the time of Brexit, I was listening on the radio to people talking for or against Brexit. I was flabbergasted by the prevailing ignorance about how EU really works and the extremely short-sighted reasons people were giving for being for or against a decision that will have an impact for tens of years!

BTW Labor is no better than Tories. To be trusted about as much as letting loonies running the asylum.

My main issue with voting Labour is that their manifesto always sounds great but I wonder how on earth they would fund it. I also would worry being a middle earner because we are squeezed enough by the Tory government, and I think that would only get worse under Labour.

I've no idea who to vote for at the next election because right now, there is no one who represents me to choose.

If you read their manifesto you’d see exactly how they’d fund it. And it won’t be by squeezing middle earners.

How's Brexit working out for you OP?

As much as I disagree with labour on the issue I still need to do all in my power to stop continuing austerity

Wes Streeting and Rachel Reeves are pretty clear that they intend to do bugger all to stop continuing austerity.

Brexit hasn't affected me very much. I've noticed the increase in food prices and stopped buyng a few things on principle. There was a time when they would have really worried me. This Rishi Sunak fiasco has really annoyed me. I was waverng a bit last week when I saw the dreaded Angela Raynor spouting forth on TV. But no I am not going to vote Tory.

Op very much I'm alright jack

Typical tory

You mean they’re going to improve public services by funding them properly with money saved by stopping Tory handouts to all their mates? Austerity is based on Tory ideology, there was never any financial basis for it.

Never have and never will vote Tory.

My vote has always gone to Labour or the Lib Dem depending on the election.

I would say that there used to be the odd Tory politicians I could respect but the current lot has truly reached a low point and are basically criminals with posh accents: corrupt, lying, greedy and in the hands of big businesses or foreign powers.

They have have pretty much destroyed the country (the economy, the NHS, our reputation abroad) and polluted our rivers and seas.

I want to see people like Johnson and Hancock in front of a jury. Not to mention Sunak's constant lack of financial transparency scrutinised...

I am actually quite tough on things like criminal sentences (I want to see tougher sentences for rapes/sexual assaults, knife crime and a serious crack down on anti-social behaviour) and controlling immigration (I don't think we have the housing and health infrastructure to continue to take on so many people) but I could never vote for the Tories out of common decency.

I think we had our Trump moment, now it is time to bring back decent politicians and politics.

''@Issania87 · Yesterday 22:12
My main issue with voting Labour is that their manifesto always sounds great but I wonder how on earth they would fund it.''

Here is a novel idea: tax higher earners properly and big corporations so they no longer get away with paying no or little tax...

That should free up some money.

We all know that at the moment the tax burden falls on those on low and medium incomes.

While people like Sunak, Rees-Mogg and so on use clever accounting to pay lower rates.

Thing is, our Trump moment (Brexit) is going to be extremely difficult to roll back, voters have done damage that'll last generations, in many cases, long after they themselves are dead.

Also, its shown to politicians that lying to the public works and has very little in the way of consequences for the liars. Nobody is holding politicians to account for the lies they told, the press and public just let them move on. The homer has gone out of politics and I think it will be very hard to get back.

I vote tory and will continue to do so.

I'm sorry, but I have no sympathy for you. You voted for austerity. You voted for poor and disabled people to be demonised and forced to live on less and less. You voted for councils to have their funding stripped, further affecting poor, vulnerable and disabled people. You voted for the deliberate underfunding of education and healthcare. You voted for Brexit.

Suck it up. This is what you deserve.

YANBU I just wish there was someone convincing to vote for.

Not so... Labour have identified a £25bn difference in taxation between "earned income" and "unearned income" i.e investments, capital gains etc, why should the wealthy not have their investments/BTL property sales taxed at PAYE income tax rates?

Austerity was arguably needed for 3 or 4 years after 2008, then we should have relaxed it and started investing in public services and their staff...

...we didn't, now we can see the problems it has caused in the NHS, Social Care, Police and Education.

Here is a novel idea: tax higher earners properly and big corporations so they no longer get away with paying no or little tax...

Is that what Labour is suggesting?
Didn't tax revenues go up when the 50% tax rate was cut to 45%?
Which big corporations are paying no tax? If you're talking about those on tax avoidance schemes, it's not just this country that's struggling with them. Best will in the world, unless there's an international shift, I can't see how Labour can change that.

Here is a novel idea: tax higher earners properly and big corporations so they no longer get away with paying no or little tax...

Is that what Labour is suggesting?
Didn't tax revenues go up when the 50% tax rate was cut to 45%?
Which big corporations are paying no tax? If you're talking about those who use tax avoidance schemes, like Amazon, it's not just this country that's struggling with them. Best will in the world, unless there's an international shift, I can't see how Labour can change that.

@Earlydancing Sunak managed to pay just 22% on millions of investment income over 5 years.

All perfectly above board but should it be? Labour plan on getting rid of this loop hole.

Why should the wealthy pay tax at 20% on very high unearned income but you or i pay over double on our salaries?

The 50% rate wasn't in long enough to find out and other tax changes also took place when that rate was cut.

I will never understand devotion to ANY political party. You are not alone though, there are many other people who will continue to vote the same, no matter what said party does.

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