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AIBU?

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DS inviting girlfriend to DH BIG birthday family dinner

367 replies

reynardette · 29/03/2022 20:29

Here's the thing. We have a nuclear family tradition (parents, 2 DCs) of going out together on birthdays. We have a small family. My parents live abroad. My sibling dead. DH's mum died almost 30 years ago. His dad is not engaged and on wife 3. It is DH's BIG birthday. DD is student as far away in the UK as it is possible to be from us and I have secretly arranged for her to fly back, get a train and meet us in a lovely restaurant to surprise him. It is a big deal. We do not do this often. Meanwhile, DS has lost his 4th job this year (really) and from two days ago currently home with us. This evening told me he has invited current girlfriend to come on DH's birthday evening. They have been together for 6 months. I hit the roof. AIBU

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HoppingPavlova · 30/03/2022 03:44

Why can't you just uninvite her? Ring her up and tell her it's a very personal get together but you are looking forward to the holiday with her in May?

Then it’s really a choice between girlfriend going, or girlfriend being uninvited and DS saying he is out.

CentrifugalBumblePuppy · 30/03/2022 04:08

Having grown up in a family where one parent would regularly ‘hit the roof’ and have a very rigid assumption as to who could do what and when and how, I have instilled an ‘all-comers welcome’ attitude throughout my kid’s lives, into their adulthoods.

As a consequence, I have great relationships with both kids (now 25 and nearly 30), and their partners (both present and throughout their lives).

Your children are adults. Quite why you need to exert control and ‘hit the roof’ (shouting? Stamping your feet? Bawling until you get your way? What? Because I can classify any one of these as ‘hit the roof’ territory from experience) is beyond the realms of credibility as a parent.

Angry parents who try to exert control by being out of control themselves do nothing but create fear in your children, whatever their age. Fear does not lay the foundations for healthy relationships with your adult kids or their partners.

It doesn’t matter if your son’s new girlfriend is for a week, a month or forever. For now, they are someone important to your son. And someone your son wants to introduce to you. I have a landmark birthday this year and I’d want my kid’s partners (they’re in long term relationships, but even if it was a new partner of either one) to share in my celebration as part of my family, by virtue of being important in my children’s life.

If this is about being strapped financially, I can fully understand that. However surely you’d just discuss that with your son as adults? Or (as I have the feeling in 99 out of 100 AIBU topics) is communication dead or a dying art?

I’d be more concerned as to why your son is finding holding down a job difficult? I know from bitter experience living in a house where fear rules the roost underpins my own depression; maybe your son’s new girlfriend will be the catalyst in helping him to achieve his goals? Maybe he feels, by being unwelcoming to his girlfriend, you are unwelcoming to him too?

Perhaps the hardline ‘nuclear family’ edicts & hitting the roof are preventing him from spreading his wings with confidence as I fear he can’t do right for doing wrong against the backdrop of a sister at Uni who you’re falling over yourself to parachute in for a birthday meal but not seeing him as worthy enough that he can introduce someone important in his life to you?

PrincessNutella · 30/03/2022 04:16

He probably didn't ask BECAUSE he knew you would hit the roof.

ForeverSingle881 · 30/03/2022 04:33

YABU. It's the kind of thing that will push your DS again. In 10 years time, you'll be begging him to take his partner to your birthday and he won't be bothered and you'll be so confused even though we all told you so.

LBFseBrom · 30/03/2022 04:51

LegMeChicken: ...there are things you want to discuss as a family without partners involves. It changes the dynamic completely for a small, intimate meal.
.............
They can discuss those things at home before or after the meal or the next day.

We all agree that out of common courtesy, son should have asked first but op's reaction is well OTT.

As for him losing so many jobs, that has happened quite a bit during the pandemic. That may not be the entire reason but is likely to be part of it, plus the fact that he perhaps took an unsuitable job too quickly for fear of not getting another. So many businesses have gone under, it's hardly surprising. However it's not the end of the world, he needs encouragement and some advice to take his time in choosing the right path. He'll get there eventually. None of that has anything to do with his dad's birthday meal but as it was mentioned by the op in her first post and since, with some emphasis, it is bound to provoke comments.

appleblossom32 · 30/03/2022 05:34

YABU

CatsandDogs22 · 30/03/2022 05:45

So very glad OP is not my MIL (who I first met at her big birthday family weekend and who has always been very welcoming).

esloquehay · 30/03/2022 06:01

Glad I RTFT, OP, as I baulked at you 'hitting the roof'. 😃
Your son was rude to have not asked whether it was okay if his GF could come to the dinner.
4 jobs in one year and he's back at home? Does he have the singularly male trait of learned helplessness?!

Sazza26xx · 30/03/2022 06:14

@jimpamdwight

I'm surprised so many people think you're being unreasonable. They've not been together long at all, there's no extended family there, I wouldn't have even dreamt of inviting her if I was him! There's so many other opportunities for you all to get to know her and her be welcomed into your family, but this isn't the time. Yanbu.

I don't know if I would have hit to roof but I would have explained it's not an invite someone event but you'd love to do something else together soon.

I agree
HollowTalk · 30/03/2022 06:18

This is very strange. If he was engaged to her would things be different? If he was married to her would it be different?

When your husband and you were dating, did his parents treat you as a couple?

StoppinBy · 30/03/2022 06:22

I voted YABU as even though I think in the situation you describe he should have asked I think you should have initially included her and am surprised you didn't.

Yes, relationships come and go but 6 months is a reasonable time to be with someone at a young age and I would assume after that length of time a g/f or b/f would be naturally included in family gatherings.

KatherineJaneway · 30/03/2022 06:28

YANBU. Adding guests changes the dynamics. He should have asked you first.

Marvellousmadness · 30/03/2022 06:29

Poor ds. Give a little op

Have a heart

MrsLargeEmbodied · 30/03/2022 06:30

the whole surprise of your dd flying in is a slap in the face to your ds,
can't you see that?
no wonder he is bringing an ally with him.

speakout · 30/03/2022 06:43

I have strict rules about things like this- loosely adhered to.

What does it matter if Ds girlfriend comes along? She may be lovely.
Hitting the roof seems dramatic.

SD1978 · 30/03/2022 06:44

I would be unimpressed by this. Your daughter also has a partner who would have come, and your son invited another guest without checking first if this was ok. It's not ok to invite someone else to something you're invited to, without checking first.

gunnersgold · 30/03/2022 06:58

Hit the roof is a bit much but why didn't he ask and who is paying for her?

notacooldad · 30/03/2022 07:02

It's not ok to invite someone else to something you're invited to, without checking first
You mean it's not ok for you.
I have absolutely no problem with this and to me it goes without saying that of course a partner is invited in a family celebration!.
Whether the relationship works out or not is irrelevant to me I plan for ' the here and now'
Over the last 10 years since my lads have had gfs(the oldest is 26) girlfriends have been to all special occasions including 0 birthdays. No specific invite was sent. I just expected them to come along

I wouldnt expect my lads to invite their girlfriends to a family meal that someone from outside the immediate family has organized though. However there has never been an occasion when they have been excluded.

SomethingVexesThee · 30/03/2022 07:03

All this obsession over the phrase "hit the roof" Hmm I hardly think the OP is describing a situation of violence and abuse. She was pissed off at her son's thoughtlessness and it sounds like the latest in a long line of exasperating, immature behaviour from a supposed adult.

YANBU. Very rude to invite her without asking. Not weird to have a meal for just the 4 of you either.

And 6 months is really not a long relationship IMO! Holiday - fine, casual, there will be other holidays. You can't re-do a one off big birthday.

Subbaxeo · 30/03/2022 07:09

My son’s gf is very welcome to join us whenever he does family stuff. Can’t imagine excluding her so I would not feel the same as you.

Everydaydayisaschoolday · 30/03/2022 07:13

@notacooldad

To ask if she can come would be fine but he invited her without asking. I dont see the issue at all. I expected my adult kids to bring their gf's to occasions and gatherings. They dont have to permission. Arms are wide open for them!
I couldn't agree with this more. I want my adult children to enjoy coming home and spending time with us. I am happy if they want to include their partners in our family life.

The only way this would possibly upset me is if we were on a tight budget and a fifth guest would be hard to afford but the OP says that cost isn't the problem here.

Yahyahs22 · 30/03/2022 07:21

Why ask if you're being unreasonable if when people answer yes, you tell them all the reasons why you're not? So you posted because maybe you feel a little bit guilty about hitting the roof and instead of apologising and facing the fact you might be wrong, you want to hear from a bunch of strangers how right you were to do so?

balalake · 30/03/2022 07:22

Should have asked first, and hopefully you have met her, given it is a six month old relationship.

Hitting the roof if that is what you really did seems a bit extreme. I think you are investing too much in a birthday celebration, though many others seem to as well.

Dentistlakes · 30/03/2022 07:34

YANBU to be annoyed, he should have asked you first. It isn’t any old family meal, it’s a significant birthday and I’m guessing the restaurant may have a price tag to match the occasion.

I wouldn’t have hit the roof, but I probably would have said he should have checked with me before inviting her. Now it’s done I wouldn’t continue to make a fuss about it.

SartresSoul · 30/03/2022 07:38

Since you like her and I’m guessing it isn’t a new relationship, I really wouldn’t be bothered about this. He probably should have asked first but I think it’s quite usual for adult children to invite long term partner’s to family get togethers.