To seek assurances that I’ll be put on a single sex ward?

[Thoosa]

Not single gender. Single sex.

Im due for one, maybe two, surgeries this year. I’m a DV and rape survivor.

I’m nervous.

I just don’t understand how we’ve got to this, I really don’t

Preferred pronouns and the 'transwomen are women' mantra.

All slowly chipping at women's rights.

@Thoosa

There has to be a duty to balance needs and the NHS needs to start working out how.

Now I’ve really let myself dwell on it, I’m getting quite pissed off at the possibility they’d consider my trauma secondary to someone else’s identity.

Your trauma is not secondary to someone else’s identity but it IS secondary to someone else’s confidentiality. The chances of their being a transperson on your ward is already slim, the chances of any transperson on gang wars being there for any reason other than to have medical treatment the same as you is even slimmer.

Your trauma is not secondary to someone else’s identity but it IS secondary to someone else’s confidentiality.

NHS policy does mean that transwomen are put first. The fact that this is rare doesn't mean that it doesn't have a significant impact on vulnerable women who don't want males, however they identify, in safe spaces with them when they are vulnerable.

NHS policy has meant that the confidentiality of the transperson resulted in a rape victim being gaslit.

That's insane. It's not equality. It's not progressive. It puts the feelings of males above the safeguarding of women.

@TheOriginalEmu

Confidentiality - do you think we can’t tell what sex people are?

Women are entitled to single sex spaces. That’s it. If it causes problems for trans identified men, that is not our problem to solve. We are not support humans or human shields.

[quote HermioneWeasley]@TheOriginalEmu

Confidentiality - do you think we can’t tell what sex people are?

Women are entitled to single sex spaces. That’s it. If it causes problems for trans identified men, that is not our problem to solve. We are not support humans or human shields.[/quote]
I think there are very many trans women who you’d have no idea that they were anything other than a biological female, yes.

It's strange then, how very few of them are in the public eye. And how very many you would absolutely know aren't female.

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

Men are more likely to be sex offenders than women are. I've never once denied that. But if it's sex offenders who are the concern, why is it only trans ones that posters are concerned about?

Because a particular subset of males is being made exempt from basic safeguarding rules.

1. Previous studies have suggested 10% of males are responsible for most acts of sexual violence. If this is a trend that is typical of various subsets, then 10% of male transitioners will be responsible for most acts of sexual violence committed by transitioners. And this subset is being given free rein to go where they like.

2. when any subset of males is treated as too pure and kind to commit rape, rapists promptly start on being counted amongst that subset. Because rapists aren't stupid.

This.

Isn't the vile Ian Huntley now identifying as female?

Apparently he isn't, and that was a prison rumour that got out of hand.

But, before anyone breathes too easily, this is what a member of the LibDems had to say at the time.

At the time, Alisdair sat on the LibDem Federal Policy Committee.

I cannot believe this of the LibDems. So disappointing. What has happened! UK political Parties don’t look affer women at all anymore.

FWIW, I agree that trans women shouldn’t be in prisons with men - but they certainly also shouldn’t be in prisons with women either!

Yanbu.
I flagged this up with the school about an upcoming trip. I am embracing being that parent.

I don’t get the ‘tiny percentage’ argument.

Harold Shipman represented a tiny percentage of doctors. But he took many lives and destroyed many more. And despite the overwhelming majority of doctors not being serial killers, his crimes (rightly) precipitated a massive review of safeguarding and major changes in the way GPs operated. The GMC didn’t shrug it off and say ‘oh well, he was a tiny percentage of GPs so let’s not stress about it too much.’

Wayne Couzens represented a tiny proportion of police officers, but I expect that most women would now be hesitant to get into an unmarked police car alone when shown a warrant card.

Yes, the percentage of transwomen is small. The percentage of those who are a danger to women is even smaller. But the tiniest percentage can still do untold damage to women.

I’m going to try to draft something tonight.

Thanks so much for all the input.