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To wonder what the fuck they are teaching my child?

176 replies

lunar1 · 16/03/2022 22:06

They are covering sexuality which I thought was fine. Except they have just been taught about being sexually attracted to inanimate objects, example given was a chair, or identifying as an inanimate object.

Someone asked for an example which lead to the entire rest of the lesson being about identifying as a wardrobe. And how it's valid and must be accepted.

I can't decide if he's winding me up or not, for fucks sake.

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OutsideVoice · 16/03/2022 22:09

It’s impossible right now to tell if something is true or made up, so many obvious safeguarding issues being swept under the carpet.

In this case I’d assume it’s a wind up and ask his teacher.

How old is your child?

FindingMeno · 16/03/2022 22:10

Nothing would surprise me any more.

Onezee · 16/03/2022 22:10

Was it like in that Harry Potter film where dementors came out of the wardrobe and you had to turn them into a balloon?

MangyInseam · 16/03/2022 22:11

Alas there is a good chance he's not.

At some point recently the new thing in sexuality is subdividing it into a gazillion different categories, from asexual to zebrasexual.

There's no real basis in anything objective for this, but they like to have all the flags there for the kids to look at.

I've come to the conclusion that the people running this stuff are basically too stupid or too captured by their lobby group advisers to be trusted with teaching the topic at all, and it should just be removed from the curriculum.

SparkleSpangle · 16/03/2022 22:12

Lower set in secondary school I can totally see that happening. Higher set I would expect the teacher to steer back on topic (personal experience) Primary school could go either way judging by my DCs school.

Thatsplentyjack · 16/03/2022 22:13

Honestly nothing would surprise me now.

MissyB1 · 16/03/2022 22:14

But can a wardrobe have a relationship with chair that identifies as a sofa? 🤔

MangyInseam · 16/03/2022 22:14

PS - as for why I tend to believe it, my workplace was given a similar set of "sexualities" that we were supposed to promote for Pride month, and a friend of mine who was trying to build some information systems capturing information about gender id in clients was advised by the lobby organization that now these included all kinds of not only gender but romantic and sexual identities.

So I think this is the New Thing.

AllOfUsAreDead · 16/03/2022 22:15

Haha are you in Scotland by any chance? Education system is fucked here, wait 10-15 years, all the kids today will be going to college and university believing they are fairies.

lunar1 · 16/03/2022 22:16

He's in year 8, he said they talked about gay and lesbian definitions for two minutes. Then pronouns for a while and then the topic I posted about.

I called another parent and her daughter has told her the same.

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lunar1 · 16/03/2022 22:17

He was also told there a 52 genders, but doesn't know What they are.

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Linguini · 16/03/2022 22:17

At secondary, I can totally understand why a teacher of sex-ed might vastly prefer a discussion around identifying as an inanimate object like a chair or a wardrobe, rather than talk about actual sex between two adults to a room full of pubescents.

These fetishes and micro categories really are a dream come true for the prudish.

3peassuit · 16/03/2022 22:18

Please let this not be true. My first grandchild starts school in September and I worry if she’s going to be indoctrinated with this bullshit.

MrsTerryPratchett · 16/03/2022 22:19

Very time DD comes home with this nonsense I say the same shite. You don't need a box, you can like who you like but you can only have a relationship with proper consent. No one gives a crap if your choice is a boy or girl. The rest is nonsense.

At 11 every single one of her friends is a lesbian. 20 years ago this would have been, "yuk boys still smell". It's nice that being a lesbian is 'cool' now I suppose.

Linguini · 16/03/2022 22:19

@lunar1

He was also told there a 52 genders, but doesn't know What they are.
Whoever told him this is WRONG. I tell you.

There are over 100 genders.

Degreeincodology · 16/03/2022 22:20

There are no genders. There are two seats. There is gendered behaviour.

Rabbitpoop · 16/03/2022 22:20

Maybe the teacher is gender critical and subtly pointing out the illogicality of it all?!

Degreeincodology · 16/03/2022 22:21

Sexes not seats lol

MelCat · 16/03/2022 22:21

I did some philosophy modules at university and I remember a very odd lecture with a lecturer arguing if an object was used for a sexual purpose it was not intended for that could constitute rape and then a long discussion about raping a chair. I swapped to history.I’m a lawyer now and rape has a very clear statutory meaning.

people have been teaching bonkers things to students for years and most will just ignore and move on.

MrsTerryPratchett · 16/03/2022 22:21

@Degreeincodology

There are no genders. There are two seats. There is gendered behaviour.
Back to being chairsexual Grin
MangyInseam · 16/03/2022 22:24

@MelCat

I did some philosophy modules at university and I remember a very odd lecture with a lecturer arguing if an object was used for a sexual purpose it was not intended for that could constitute rape and then a long discussion about raping a chair. I swapped to history.I’m a lawyer now and rape has a very clear statutory meaning.

people have been teaching bonkers things to students for years and most will just ignore and move on.

It's one thing in university, another when they are teaching it to kids who are young enough to believe it.
lunar1 · 16/03/2022 22:25

These lessons are tagged onto form time. So are with their form teacher. She teaches biology, how on earth does a science teacher sit with a straight face an teach a group of children that it's perfectly fine to identify as a wardrobe.

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WonderfulYou · 16/03/2022 22:28

At secondary, I can totally understand why a teacher of sex-ed might vastly prefer a discussion around identifying as an inanimate object like a chair or a wardrobe, rather than talk about actual sex between two adults to a room full of pubescents.

I agree.

It’s like using the cup of tea to explain rape.
It’s not saying they want to shag a cup of tea.

What’s more likely is they used inanimate objects to explain something to make it less personal (sex-Ed is not fun for year 8s especially females) and your child has either misunderstood or is having you on.

You can look up the PSHE curriculum and it doesn’t have anything about anything like this.

lunar1 · 16/03/2022 22:30

It's an independent school in England if that makes a difference, though they do follow the national curriculum.

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Thethuthinang · 16/03/2022 22:30

My teen was told that some southeast Asian people have words in their language for five different genders (which seems more reasonable) but that it would be cultural appropriation for people of European descent to use these words. Teen was highly perplexed.