To wonder what the fuck they are teaching my child?

[lunar1]

They are covering sexuality which I thought was fine. Except they have just been taught about being sexually attracted to inanimate objects, example given was a chair, or identifying as an inanimate object.

Someone asked for an example which lead to the entire rest of the lesson being about identifying as a wardrobe. And how it's valid and must be accepted.

I can't decide if he's winding me up or not, for fucks sake.

I've come to the conclusion that the people running this stuff are basically too stupid or too captured by their lobby group advisers to be trusted with teaching the topic at all, and it should just be removed from the curriculum

Completely agree, it’s ridiculous. There’s an absolutely minuscule minority of people with obscure gender definitions and confusion over self-ID hell bent on confusing and then ultimately converting as many impressionable children as possible because being accepted isn’t enough, they want the credibility of having safety and credibility in numbers too.

So many children in my daughters year have become gender confused, especially those prone to mental health issues, by being told about all this stuff as if it’s something they can pick and choose

This is the problem. As if kids don’t have enough to worry about at such an important time in their life. They need to leave the whole thing alone and simply teach what matters - healthy relationships, consent and acceptance.

Well i suppose if he thinks wardrobes are sexy , you dont have to worry about teenage pregnancy and STDs.

Just splinters i would imagine.

Am I the ONLY one who saw 52 genders, and thought “one for every week of the year”?!

That sounds like an urban myth or something. I’m not saying it is, it’s just a very interesting coincidence.

... Someone asked for an example which lead to the entire rest of the lesson being about identifying as a wardrobe. And how it's valid and must be accepted.

Mind you, an extra wardrobe could be very useful...

... and you wouldn't have to assemble it!

Surely asexuality isn't a sexuality the same as atheism isn't a religion.

And there didn't used to be an A in LGBT donkey's years ago. No objection to it BTW but it wasn't there when I was young. I do object to the obsession with sexualities in schools. What they need to do much better is consent and safety and acceptance of each other as complicated humans. Rather than shoving children in ever tinier boxes.

I'm asexual and I was asexual at school 30 years ago even though we weren't taught anything about it. Just because you didn't know we were there, doesn't mean we didn't exist. When I was at school you would have thought every single person was heterosexual, there were no gay people at all, they all came out while at university.

Ha ha, sounds like either the teacher, the kids or both have been having a laugh!

@Doratheexploret

I’ve no idea what they are teaching our kids. My daughter is year 11. Today they were having a talk about feminism, great I thought. My daughter said it was interesting to start with, then got weird. The woman was getting mad about stuff and even shouted that even resuscitation dummies were male 🙄. Apart from that being a ridiculous statement, every resuscitation dummy I’ve ever used was “Annie” presumably a female.

I expect the teacher meant to say that crash test dummies are male. This is an actual problem, because women are built differently and suffer worse injuries in crashes due to the fact that seat belts are designed for men. How many of us have seat belts rubbing our necks, even when on the lowest setting? And in all the years of car safety, no one has come up with a clear solution to the problem of where is the safest place to strap the belt when you’re heavily pregnant.

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/feb/23/truth-world-built-for-men-car-crashes

@Degreeincodology

There are no genders. There are two seats. There is gendered behaviour.

It made sense in terms of furniture related sexualities

At least a wardrobe has always got wood.

@ponypatter44

'Culture appropriation isn't a thing'

I disagree - it definitely happens

Enjoying a culture, becoming involved in culture absolutely fine

Oppressing the culture, while using an aspect of the culture incorrectly for personal gain (financial, social media likes etc) not ok and classed as cultural appropriation.

Well yes, one can identify as

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And this is why we home educate. There could be a lot more that your child doesn't come home and tell you about. The new curriculum in Wales starts in September and RSE is NOT OPTIONAL. You cannot take your child out of Religious or Sex Ed classes come September. And they also won't publish the curriculum details. It's madness! Your children are precious and they only get one childhood. Poor kids are being indoctrinated into believing this bullshit and woe betide anyone who dares to question it. Seriously worrying.

The saddest thing is how marginalised actual LGB education is becoming, both in schools and in society at large. Embedding homophobia IN the LGBT.

Surely asexuality isn't a sexuality the same as atheism isn't a religion.
I'd say it's a position on sexuality, as atheism is a position on religion. So to all intents and purposes yes it is. Specifically, if children are being taught about religion then the discussion needs to include atheism; and if they're are being taught about sexuality then the discussion needs to include asexuality.
The stuff about wardrobe is nuts in the context of 'identifying as one'. I can imagine it in drama lessons or something – 'imagine you're a wardrobe.' The problem I think is that what I would just call imagination seems to have had this word 'identity' slapped onto it and been assigned a new and faintly disturbing meaning.
Anyway, all that is to say I'd definitely have words with the school about this.

@bofski14

And this is why we home educate. There could be a lot more that your child doesn't come home and tell you about. The new curriculum in Wales starts in September and RSE is NOT OPTIONAL. You cannot take your child out of Religious or Sex Ed classes come September. And they also won't publish the curriculum details. It's madness! Your children are precious and they only get one childhood. Poor kids are being indoctrinated into believing this bullshit and woe betide anyone who dares to question it. Seriously worrying.

So they only hear your opinion on things - sorry to break it to you, but that's what extremists do with their kids and its certainly not an education.

I think having a random discussion about sexuality while children are young and it veers off into silly conversations is fine. But year 8? No, the teacher should have wound everyone back in and pulled it back to the teaching

@lunar1

They are covering sexuality which I thought was fine. Except they have just been taught about being sexually attracted to inanimate objects, example given was a chair, or identifying as an inanimate object.

Someone asked for an example which lead to the entire rest of the lesson being about identifying as a wardrobe. And how it's valid and must be accepted.

I can't decide if he's winding me up or not, for fucks sake.

What exactly are you scared of?

When I was at school, sexuality wasn't even covered. In the UK sex and sexuality is still this thing that we're not meant to talk about or discuss- the end result :

The United Kingdom has the highest number of teenage pregnancies per year in Western Europe

We have teenagers whose ideas about sexuality comes from hardcore porn.

Is that what you want? Or a deep frank discussion about how complicated sexuality is?

I know what I choose.

@Whatsnewpussyhat

This sort of shit used to belong solely on late night channel 4 documentaries.

Remember one about men having sex with cars.

The entire movement is about men and their 'right' to have sex with who or what they want, when they want and where they want. All the things that used to be kept to themselves being spoonfed to CHILDREN who are now oversexualised and over stimulated on adult concepts and fantasies and access to endless porn.

Non of it is in anyway appropriate to teach in schools.
You only have to look at the push to make girls think rough anal sex and sexual violence are expected and normal and they aren't 'sex positive' if they won't let men choke and spit on them.

The teaching should be about healthy relationships, safe sex, consent and boundaries. Not fetishes.

You only have to look at the push to make girls think rough anal sex and sexual violence are expected and normal and they aren't 'sex positive' if they won't let men choke and spit on them.

Who the fuck advocates that in schools, or anywhere??

@Whatsnewpussyhat
Spot on.

@liliainterfrutices

Bristol University recently issued guidance to staff about pronouns including a link to how to manage the pronouns of people who self-identify as cats. This is one of the UK’s leading universities.

Do a quick Google search on Furries !

@Shtfday
Oppressing the culture, while using an aspect of the culture incorrectly for personal gain (financial, social media likes etc) not ok and classed as cultural appropriation.

But as soon as you start actually analysing any of those phrases it’s no longer quite as simple.
“Oppressing the culture” what does that mean in the context of say, music? Singing a song badly? Wearing jeans while singing something from China? Adding a little flourish in the last bar of the piece?
“Using the culture incorrectly?” Again what does that mean?
“For financial gain” So artists can no longer be paid for art/performances?

Who the fuck advocates that in schools, or anywhere??

There was an outfit delivering SRE to schools in Warwickshire which had, I think, a dice game where anal sex was one of the “options”. This was aimed at 13 yo’s.

Thread here about it at the time, but unfortunately the Twitter link in that thread (which was drawing attention to how wrong this is) has since been suspended so the tweet’s no longer available.

Funny how women get banned from sm platforms for highlighting safeguarding issues.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3701564-Anal-sex-for-13-year-olds-Warwickshire-again

I think those particular materials were later withdrawn - only after protests of course. And not before they’d been actually used to normalise anal sex (and other stuff?) to 13 yo’s.

There’s more but I don’t have time to link now.

There are people who are attracted to inanimate objects but I can’t really see much reason to reach 12-13 year old’s this at school! I watched a documentary about people in love with their cars or even the Eiffel Tower once so it is a legitimate thing. I know Tracy Emin isn’t in love with the rock but she is married to one . I told my 12 yo DS about it because I think she’s very cool and he just rolled his eyes.

Nothing would surprise me anymore. Write to the Head and Governors, email the teacher in question and cc the DfE.

This made up crap has gone far enough.

I'd actually prefer my child being taught that you can identify as anything at all, rather than some pretending is sacred (identifying as a sex you are not) and some is offensive (race). That's a lot more confusing.

I'm assuming the teacher wouldn't have said that everyone else had to pretend you were a wardrobe or sit on you if you think you're a chair?

If anything, it's a more honest take on how stupid identifying is.