To wonder what the fuck they are teaching my child?

[lunar1]

They are covering sexuality which I thought was fine. Except they have just been taught about being sexually attracted to inanimate objects, example given was a chair, or identifying as an inanimate object.

Someone asked for an example which lead to the entire rest of the lesson being about identifying as a wardrobe. And how it's valid and must be accepted.

I can't decide if he's winding me up or not, for fucks sake.

www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-56449-0

This sort of shit used to belong solely on late night channel 4 documentaries.

Remember one about men having sex with cars.

The entire movement is about men and their 'right' to have sex with who or what they want, when they want and where they want. All the things that used to be kept to themselves being spoonfed to CHILDREN who are now oversexualised and over stimulated on adult concepts and fantasies and access to endless porn.

Non of it is in anyway appropriate to teach in schools.
You only have to look at the push to make girls think rough anal sex and sexual violence are expected and normal and they aren't 'sex positive' if they won't let men choke and spit on them.

The teaching should be about healthy relationships, safe sex, consent and boundaries. Not fetishes.

Linked to autism, according to that article.

As little as 5 or 6 years ago, this could have been a comedy.

Sorry if I'm being inappropriate and un pc but that is bloody hilarious I needed a good laugh thank you

DH said to me privately that it's all effing bull shit and they need to stop filling our children's heads with it.

Honestly, don’t say it privately. Tell him your thoughts and if he is actually believing it, challenge his thinking. When the schools are teaching gender, having clubs for trans kids and are going along with pronoun BS and they’re seeing it normalised on the internet and TV, as parents you have to step in. Have lots of conversations about the difference between sexuality and identity, gender being tied to stereotypes, what makes someone a man or woman. Use science and logic and everything they come up with just falls apart.

@VeganSeason totally. They are the most unwoke bunch of kids. My other Year 8 class, on the other hand, would have been mortified at the class giggling at gender.

Obviously I have to be non committal so I always leave it at the 'we should all try to be kind and understanding' level.

I would hope they would be discussing consent, basic anatomy, relationships, peer pressure, safety, etc.

I’ve no idea what they are teaching our kids. My daughter is year 11. Today they were having a talk about feminism, great I thought. My daughter said it was interesting to start with, then got weird. The woman was getting mad about stuff and even shouted that even resuscitation dummies were male 🙄. Apart from that being a ridiculous statement, every resuscitation dummy I’ve ever used was “Annie” presumably a female.

@MissyB1

But can a wardrobe have a relationship with chair that identifies as a sofa? 🤔

Haha this thread reminds me of this Peter Cook and Dudley Moore sketch .

@lunar1

He was also told there a 52 genders, but doesn't know What they are.

Does he know many would fit onto the head of a pin? Surely if there are more than two then the concept is meaningless.

@Degreeincodology

There are no genders. There are two seats. There is gendered behaviour.

Don’t be so narrow minded ! Sofa, stools, bean bags, chairs, deck chairs, sun loungers, pouffes, egg chairs, thrones, sedan chairs, wheel chairs……..

All this homophobic smoke and mirrors of 'identity' to hide the truth that some people are actually gay or lesbian. People like me who are sexually attracted to people of our own biological sex. An actual real physical thing!

@LadyBadenPowellsHat

'Asexual' isn't a new term, it's been around for many donkeys years. Asexual people don't generally want or have sexual relations with anyone.

They are what the A stands for in LGBTQIA+

It hasn't been part of this kind of system though before, where it becomes an identity. That's really very different.

@MissyB1

But can a wardrobe have a relationship with chair that identifies as a sofa? 🤔

Apparently it's true. There is a condition where humans are sexually attracted to inanimate objects. Not sure what its called .Documentary on channel 4 a few years ago , one woman married the effect tower, another woman married a tree.
No I'm not making it up 😬

@Psuedoshoes

When I was at school I was friends with a lovely yet painfully thin girl. She was convinced she was humongous, and bought size 14 clothes (which hung off her) and said she was glad when she'd found a shop that sized their clothes small otherwise she'd "never have gotten into them" supposedly. So desperately sad. Thankfully she got ED help and decades later is now a healthy woman. But what if we'd have been forced to indulge in her dysphoria? I dread to think what would have happened to the poor girl. This world is mad.

This is the exact analogy I always use when trying to explain my stance on all this bonkersness to people. We don't agree with people that have an ED that they are indeed fat and need to change (starve/purge) their body until it's thin. We (hopefully) give them therapy because it is a recognised mental illness. Try saying anywhere other than here that thinking you're in the wrong body (your body can't be 'wrong', it just is - love whoever you love, fancy whoever you fancy, dress however you want, but your body is just your body) and you should take hormones and have bits of it removed is a mental illness and I dread to think what vitriol you would encounter for the 'literal violence' and hatred of trans people you would be accused of.

If I’m reading this right,then I am really of the opinion that the world (or rather the people in it) has finally gone stark raving bonkers

In which case parents should have the right to see what is being taught and have the right to withdraw their child from lessons

You can withdraw your child from these lessons if you are in England.

The latter is probably something a child saw on the internet and raised a valid question.

I doubt it was part of a planned lesson or appears in the curriculum.

I agree but some people love to be triggered and moan about how the world is going mad.

If my year 8 DD came home and told me this is what they’d learnt I would be straight on the phone asking if it was true and then on here and to the papers naming and shaming them and starting a petition to change this part of the curriculum - not starting a lighthearted thread and quietly disagreeing with it.

I think other posters also know it’s BS which is why they’re not asking the name of the school or telling them to complain.

I really wish there was more care put into these lessons. When I was in year 6 we had a sex-ed lesson and I asked what a hermaphrodite was. (I’d seen a dog described as one on animal hospital…) and was yelled at and told to stand in the corner for the rest of the lesson.
It had been an honest question that I wanted to know the answer to and I was always very quiet so it couldn’t have been seen as disrupting.

But then now it seems to go have gone too far the other way if the entire lesson can be replaced with a discussion about identifying as a wardrobe.

It sort of seems like the people teaching these things need special training.

For what it’s worth, although I’m married to DH now, my first crush was on an older girls in dance class. At the time my mum told me that when she was young it was accepted that girls might have their first crushes on the head-girl or something as a way of testing out their feelings and it was completely normal. These days I worry someone would have convinced me to label myself.

All they should really be teaching is the biology of making a child and how to behave in any relationship with others - respect, consent, tolerance etc - and that differences in people isn’t a bad thing if those other
things are followed. So many children in my daughters year have become gender confused, especially those prone to mental health issues, by being told about all this stuff as if it’s something they can pick and choose.

@lunar1

He was also told there a 52 genders, but doesn't know What they are.

Is he confused with Heinz?

Gender is a made up concept - done to stereotype people etc and to control women and men into certain behaviours

However biological sex is different

That is my take on it

I say to my 16yo DD who identifies as asexual you can identify as a spoon I'll still love you, do you think it was that sort of comment? Hypothetical like?