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To wonder what the fuck they are teaching my child?

176 replies

lunar1 · 16/03/2022 22:06

They are covering sexuality which I thought was fine. Except they have just been taught about being sexually attracted to inanimate objects, example given was a chair, or identifying as an inanimate object.

Someone asked for an example which lead to the entire rest of the lesson being about identifying as a wardrobe. And how it's valid and must be accepted.

I can't decide if he's winding me up or not, for fucks sake.

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AKASammyScrounge · 16/03/2022 23:26

@TheKeatingFive

My teen was told that some southeast Asian people have words in their language for five different genders (which seems more reasonable) but that it would be cultural appropriation for people of European descent to use these words.

wtf 😂

While I agree that sexuality is complex, what's being taught now is ill thought through and poorly defined. It's then being delivered by teachers who are in way over their heads.

An absolute fucking mess in short.

Why aren't parents raising hell? Why aren't their MPs raising it in Parliament? All this stuff is a bizarre theory but is being taught as rational fact. Children are not yet intellectually equipped to see through it.

From what has been described here, teachers are preparing the ground for gender ideology : you can be anything you like just as the wardrobe can and that identity cannot be challenged, questioned, discussed.
How are they getting away with this?

sst1234 · 16/03/2022 23:35

If you tolerate this, then your children will be next. Oh, wait, it’s already happening.

Andouillette · 16/03/2022 23:35

@MissyB1

But can a wardrobe have a relationship with chair that identifies as a sofa? 🤔
But of course! And if you say otherwise you are obviously a FERF.
LadyBadenPowellsHat · 16/03/2022 23:40

'Asexual' isn't a new term, it's been around for many donkeys years. Asexual people don't generally want or have sexual relations with anyone.

They are what the A stands for in LGBTQIA+

oakleaffy · 16/03/2022 23:42

But did the person being in love with the wardrobe come out of the closet?

There was a Channel 4 programme on women who were sexually attracted to bridges, the Berlin Wall, fairground rides-
And the Eiffel Tower.

HomeEdMom · 16/03/2022 23:44

I read this sort of shit and am so happy to be home educating my DC.

Don't put up with it OP. Especially if it's an independent school. You're the boss, no?

oakleaffy · 16/03/2022 23:46

@MangyInseam

It puts a new spin on American Pie anyway.
Haaaaha! He loved that apple pie, for sure.
BluebellsGreenbells · 16/03/2022 23:46

All this stuff is a bizarre theory but is being taught as rational fact. Children are not yet intellectually equipped to see through it

Having teens who are quite open to talking about this type of thing, because they have seen stuff (generally unsupervised by parents) and have been given a green light at school to discuss it.

I would ask, was it part of the prepared lesson, or was it off the back of a question a child asked?

The latter is probably something a child saw on the internet and raised a valid question.

I doubt it was part of a planned lesson or appears in the curriculum.

Seriouslymole · 16/03/2022 23:50

@SuitcaseOfWhine - you need to be labelling your dog as “on his way to the vets to have his bollocks off”.

Flavabobble · 16/03/2022 23:51

My opinion (and I've had gin)
History will look back on this time re: sexual and gender identity and think:
WTF were they on?

Clarabe1 · 16/03/2022 23:59

I identify as a wardrobe. I saw a counsellor and apparently 'I am in the closet' Sorry that was bad...
You are making this shit up surely? If this is true we really have lost the plot.

VeganSeason · 16/03/2022 23:59

Children are not yet intellectually equipped to see through it

There are kids including mine that think it’s absolute bollocks. But obviously they can’t say much as they’ll be labelled phobic. They just eye roll and ask questions that had the gender believers tying themselves in knots.

oakleaffy · 16/03/2022 23:59

@Flavabobble

My opinion (and I've had gin) History will look back on this time re: sexual and gender identity and think: WTF were they on?
This without a doubt. The fact that people relentlessly harass and bully those who say that they believe men cannot be women is one good example.

I wished I was a horse as a child - Doubtless this would be taken seriously these days.

oakleaffy · 17/03/2022 00:02

@VeganSeason

Children are not yet intellectually equipped to see through it

There are kids including mine that think it’s absolute bollocks. But obviously they can’t say much as they’ll be labelled phobic. They just eye roll and ask questions that had the gender believers tying themselves in knots.

Thank goodness for that!
MrsTerryPratchett · 17/03/2022 00:04

@LadyBadenPowellsHat

'Asexual' isn't a new term, it's been around for many donkeys years. Asexual people don't generally want or have sexual relations with anyone.

They are what the A stands for in LGBTQIA+

Surely asexuality isn't a sexuality the same as atheism isn't a religion.

And there didn't used to be an A in LGBT donkey's years ago. No objection to it BTW but it wasn't there when I was young. I do object to the obsession with sexualities in schools. What they need to do much better is consent and safety and acceptance of each other as complicated humans. Rather than shoving children in ever tinier boxes.

Pieceofpurplesky · 17/03/2022 00:04

@lunar1

These lessons are tagged onto form time. So are with their form teacher. She teaches biology, how on earth does a science teacher sit with a straight face an teach a group of children that it's perfectly fine to identify as a wardrobe.
I was doing a lesson which had an extract with a gay character. One of the kids brought up gender, another that you can identify as a chair. 5 minutes of pupil hilarity followed where they tried to outdo each other with silly gender objects. Once back on track they kept giggling. Year 8 also. I would imagine it was silly year 8 behaviour in which the teacher perhaps wasn't as fiRm as me at putting an end to it. Year 8s really find themselves funny.
Pllink · 17/03/2022 00:05

@MrsTerryPratchett

Very time DD comes home with this nonsense I say the same shite. You don't need a box, you can like who you like but you can only have a relationship with proper consent. No one gives a crap if your choice is a boy or girl. The rest is nonsense.

At 11 every single one of her friends is a lesbian. 20 years ago this would have been, "yuk boys still smell". It's nice that being a lesbian is 'cool' now I suppose.

Yeah this ain't true, I was 11 in 2000 and had my first boyfriend and kiss at this age. Many of my friends were up to the same stuff.

I've never met a gay person who said they only realised when they were a teenager, they all had some degree of awareness from a much younger age.

bultaoreune · 17/03/2022 00:05

About the south asian's having more than one word for the genders, we do have words for them socially but legally the recognised ones were only two. It only in the recent years transgender/eunuch have been officially recognised as third gender and people have the choice to choose it on their id. This is in Pakistan and I think it's the same in India//bit I would let an indian confirm it.

But the teacher was being very weird. Why are they normalising fetishes?

SushiShopSearch · 17/03/2022 00:05

I would be weeping if my children were at this school.

Blueraccoon · 17/03/2022 00:06

I tell you what, my wardrobe and my chest of drawers had been really close for years. Soon as I got a new bed I could see the dynamics had changed. The wardrobe and the bed were clearly made for each other, whereas the drawers was a bit of a short arse. It was heartbreaking to see. I took him/her/them/it/whatever out to the garden and burnt them. The bed and the wardrobe still are very happy together ❤️

VeganSeason · 17/03/2022 00:11

I was doing a lesson which had an extract with a gay character. One of the kids brought up gender, another that you can identify as a chair. 5 minutes of pupil hilarity followed where they tried to outdo each other with silly gender objects. Once back on track they kept giggling. Year 8 also.
I would imagine it was silly year 8 behaviour in which the teacher perhaps wasn't as fiRm as me at putting an end to it.
Year 8s really find themselves funny.

Hopefully this means that they realise how ridiculous gender is. 🤞

bellsbuss · 17/03/2022 00:11

Not a week goes past without my son coming home and telling me so and so is gay or so and so only identifies as such and such now. He's 12 ffs, some of them might be but im sure it's not the numbers who think they are. DH said to me privately that it's all effing bull shit and they need to stop filling our children's heads with it.

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 17/03/2022 00:13

There was no T in LGB years ago. You were the sex you were and if you were attracted always or sometimes to people the same sex as you that covered all eventualities.

Momijin · 17/03/2022 00:13

@MrsTerryPratchett

Very time DD comes home with this nonsense I say the same shite. You don't need a box, you can like who you like but you can only have a relationship with proper consent. No one gives a crap if your choice is a boy or girl. The rest is nonsense.

At 11 every single one of her friends is a lesbian. 20 years ago this would have been, "yuk boys still smell". It's nice that being a lesbian is 'cool' now I suppose.

I think I would have been a lesbian at 11 too when I learned about sex as I thought it was yuck. I remember being disgusted when I found out how babies were made.
MrsTerryPratchett · 17/03/2022 00:14

I've never met a gay person who said they only realised when they were a teenager, they all had some degree of awareness from a much younger age.

I agree that attraction starts younger. But what we say is different from what we want. Everyone said they were straight at my school in the 80s. And a lot weren't. Now everyone says they're a lesbian or bisexual and they're not all either.

You can find boys attractive still think they're yukky. I frequently do in my 40s.