Aibu to wonder what Russia is up to in Ireland..

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Reading this was a shock, given recent events... www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2022/0310/1285699-russian-embassy-orwell-road-irish-government/

What would we do without that Munster man @MurderAtTheBeautyPageant?

I don't really like the 'Free State' either, I'm afraid.

On the bright side, I've no problems with the term Irish Gaelic, though I just say Irish unless I'm speaking to someone who's not from Ireland. I'd only use Gaelic on its own if I were talking about the language group as a whole (Irish, Scottish Gaelic, Manx).

I'm constantly in a state of confusion as to whether matches are soccer or GAA...my kids use football for both mostly, they say soccer too and Gaelic (but only sometimes). Keeps me on my toes

@Feelingthepinch22

The military drills, hse hacking & now this... Sounds like the Russians are very prominent on our lovely island... Did anyone hear Christy from Alan on the late late last Fri? He said our position (as in geographical location) was very precarious & we could be used as a launch pad for nuclear weapons! Scared the bejaysus out of me... Why do the 30 odd russian diplomats need what's effectivly a bunker? Why seperate water & ESB? What the hell are they planning? They couldn't invade us & take over, we're a neutral country...

Launch pad to knock a few min off

"New START limits all Russian deployed intercontinental-range nuclear weapons, including every Russian nuclear warhead that is loaded onto an intercontinental-range ballistic missile that can reach the United States in approximately 30 minutes."

www.state.gov/new-start/

@GallopingHighRoad

I have it on good authority they were building a distillery to make illegal vodka from potatoes. They planned to flood Ireland with cheap vodka, killing off Russian vodka imports under a false flag operation.

This is my favourite post on the thread @GallopingHighRoad

@DomesticatedZombie

See if you were a spy and doing things in secret, like preparing for armageddon, would you not surely just not bother with planning permission?

Its pretty hard to hide the cement lorries the drilling and builders bum in the middle of a big city.

This guy is doing it as a hobby⚒

I always say "down south", southern Ireland, south of Ireland...... I am from Northern Ireland and that is just what I and most people I know say.

Irish Gaelic" translates in English as "Irish Irish" which is absurd.

No it doesn't. Gaelic is not the Irish for the Irish language. Irish Gaeilge would translate as Irish Irish but nobody every says that.

According to wikipedia, that bastion of truth, "Gaelic is an adjective that means "pertaining to the Gaels". As a noun it refers to the group of languages spoken by the Gaels, or to any one of the languages individually. Gaelic languages are spoken in Ireland, Scotland, the Isle of Man, and Canada."

@Giviningup

I always say "down south", southern Ireland, south of Ireland...... I am from Northern Ireland and that is just what I and most people I know say.

Perhaps now that it has been pointed out to you that Southern Ireland is considered offensive, you might stop using it?

@OchonAgusOchonOh

No. I will continue to use it.

[quote Giviningup]@OchonAgusOchonOh

No. I will continue to use it.[/quote]
There is quite a clear picture of the types on this thread who insist on saying Southern Ireland or the southern state. Pure ignorance.

@CyranoCyrano

It is really not. That is the only way I have ever known it and everybody I know say the same. There is no offence intended. It is literally just how we know it.

My inlaws would also say Down South or Free State. I passively aggressively use the correct terms in reply.

[quote Giviningup]@CyranoCyrano

It is really not. That is the only way I have ever known it and everybody I know say the same. There is no offence intended. It is literally just how we know it.[/quote]
Yet when directly told by multiple people in Ireland that they find it highly offensive and incorrect you persist in using it. The very definition of ignorance.

[quote JaneJeffer]@DownNative it is common here to differentiate from soccer as a lot of people play both. You don't live in Ireland so you can't tell people that it's not used in that way when it most definitely is.[/quote]
What a terribly flawed argument! I don't have to have lived in the ROI to know a lot about it any more than you don't have to live in the UK to know a lot about it. .

Come on, now.

As for what you said about "soccer".....thankfully, I don't have to rely on flawed anecdotes as you do. I can find the information anyway.

The attached screenshot clearly tells us that its very common to call football "soccer" in the west and south-west of the island itself.

Not so common towards the eastern parts and Northern Ireland where its more common to call it....football. Even in the areas where Gaelic Football is played which is roughly almost half the bloody island.

Neither Northern Ireland or the Republic of Ireland is homogenous, even if you might think they are.

@OchonAgusOchonOh

Irish Gaelic" translates in English as "Irish Irish" which is absurd.

No it doesn't. Gaelic is not the Irish for the Irish language. Irish Gaeilge would translate as Irish Irish but nobody every says that.

According to wikipedia, that bastion of truth, "Gaelic is an adjective that means "pertaining to the Gaels". As a noun it refers to the group of languages spoken by the Gaels, or to any one of the languages individually. Gaelic languages are spoken in Ireland, Scotland, the Isle of Man, and Canada."

It does translate in English as "Irish Irish" since the English word "Gaelic" is literally derived from the Gaelic word "Gaeilge" which means "Irish".

You just confused an adjective with a noun. I, on the other hand, was using the noun sense of the word since I wasn't describing a thing.

[quote Giviningup]@OchonAgusOchonOh

No. I will continue to use it.[/quote]
Well, at least you're upfront about the fact you're happy to appear ignorant.

[quote Giviningup]@CyranoCyrano

It is really not. That is the only way I have ever known it and everybody I know say the same. There is no offence intended. It is literally just how we know it.[/quote]
While there may not have been offence intended prior to it being pointed out to you that it is considered offensive, to continue to use it is being deliberately offensive.

It does translate in English as "Irish Irish" since the English word "Gaelic" is literally derived from the Gaelic word "Gaeilge" which means "Irish".

No, it doesn't as Gaelic is not an Irish word. Lots of words are derived from other words. The evolved term does not necessarily mean the same thing.

You just confused an adjective with a noun. I, on the other hand, was using the noun sense of the word since I wasn't describing a thing.

Huh? The definition I provided included both adjective and noun. As a noun it refers to the group of languages spoken by the Gaels

Aww @DownNative

@YerWanIsGettinNotions, no, Unionists generally have no problem acknowledging the existence of the Republic of Ireland.

What they don't like is the use of the term "Ireland" for it when it's the name of the entire island. It does suggest a single country.

Likewise, Sinn Féin does not like "Ireland" being used for the south either, funnily enough! To them, "Ireland" should only be used for a united Ireland as a single country. They call the Republic "South of Ireland", "Southern Ireland" and "26 Counties".

That, ironically enough, is one if the few things the two actually agree on.

Boring now

Im off to find a Protestant traybake thread.

Anyway, back to the Russian Embassy...

[quote DownNative]@YerWanIsGettinNotions, no, Unionists generally have no problem acknowledging the existence of the Republic of Ireland.

What they don't like is the use of the term "Ireland" for it when it's the name of the entire island. It does suggest a single country.

Likewise, Sinn Féin does not like "Ireland" being used for the south either, funnily enough! To them, "Ireland" should only be used for a united Ireland as a single country. They call the Republic "South of Ireland", "Southern Ireland" and "26 Counties".

That, ironically enough, is one if the few things the two actually agree on.[/quote]
I've never heard anyone from Sinn Féin calling Ireland Southern Ireland. The south, the 26 counties, the south of Ireland, yes. Southern Ireland, no.