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AIBU: asked to make scones, then called a feeder...

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Queenofscones · 08/03/2022 12:13

I've name-changed for this. I'm sorry it's so long. I'm a member of a women's book group that has grown over the years to be more like a women's social group. We decided to celebrate the end of Covid regulations by renting a large self-catering house on the coast and having a long weekend of walking, talking, reading, yoga etc. There were 18 of us and the organiser asked various of us to each take responsibility for a meal. I was asked to provide scones for the afternoon we all arrived. No problem: I'm a decent home cook. Then about a week before we were due to go the organiser contacted me to say five of those attending were vegan, so could I provide something for them. I have a good vegan brownie recipe, so I added a batch of brownies to my to-do list.

Then at about three days notice the woman who was due to make Saturday night's supper went down with a cold that might have been Covid and I was asked to take over that, too, because apparently no one else was available (hmmm). She'd bought all the ingredients for veggie lasagne so I collected the ingredients from her and made and froze two big lasagnes. Then to cater for the vegans I made a separate vegan pasta dish.

I turned up early on the Friday afternoon and put out 18 scones and a dozen brownies for everyone. I knew I'd over-catered, but you never know
how much people will eat on these kind of occasions. They'd come out well and everyone enjoyed them.

That evening the woman tasked with cooking Friday night's meal got a bit overwhelmed and so I spent a couple of hours in the kitchen assisting and helped her serve up her Mexican feast (which was delicious). It became clear by Saturday that I'd been labelled the kitchen queen and also that about half the group weren't helping with the washing up or any aspect of the meals. They'd pick up a tea towel, dry a cup and then vanish, leaving what they called the 'kitchen crew' to pick up the slack.

On the Saturday, when we all came back from a long walk, I put the left-over scones and brownies out and several women ate them and then said things like 'You're going to make me fat!' I was the biggest person there: I'm a size 18-20. I began to feel really uncomfortable about the whole situation. That evening I served the lasagnes. They were particularly good (I don't always get things right) and everyone was very complimentary. One of them, who's extra-slim, came into the kitchen when others were around and thanked me for the food and said 'It's always great to have a feeder around at events like this because then the rest of us get to eat so well.' A couple of other people picked it up and wanted to pat me on the back for being a feeder. I said that I I thought the word 'feeder' was something thin people used to put down fat people and I'd prefer them not to use it. They insisted it was a compliment.

I came home feeling angry with myself for falling into the trap of taking so much of the food provision on to be helpful, and also with the women who'd enjoyed my food but then put me in my pace by calling me a feeder. To me the word carries a lot of condescension — as if they are above providing food and as if food isn't really important and it wouldn't have mattered if no one had bothered to organise meals.

I called the organisers yesterday and told them that I wouldn't be involved in the provision or preparation of food on any subsequent trips away. I said I felt that the division of labour had been unfair. They listened and agreed that too much of the responsibility for the food had fallen on just three of us, and they agreed that some women hadn't done their fair share of work and were as p*ed off as I was about it. But they said 'feeder' is a compliment, not an insult, and implied that it's my own weight issue that has made me unduly sensitive to the word.

It's doing my head in. Am I AIBU to be agree to feed people, then told I'm a feeder and feel insulted?

OP posts:
hanahsaunt · 08/03/2022 12:17

Definitely a compliment!

PeacefulPrune · 08/03/2022 12:18

I can completely see how you would feel that way. I think it's great that you voiced your hurt at the work. They should have responded to you by apologizing and not using that word.

But I also think that you should take it as it was intended. If you think they did intend to condensend you then you have bigger issues with them. But if you believe them that they just clumsily mean that they appreciated your food I think it's fine.

cuddlymunchkin · 08/03/2022 12:18

The term ‘feeder’ is definitely an insult. I’ve only ever come across it when person is providing vast amounts of food for someone else who is being fattened up. Bit a compliment at all, well done you for pulling them up on it.

cuddlymunchkin · 08/03/2022 12:19

That should say NOT a compliment at all

RhodaDendron · 08/03/2022 12:19

Yanbu and you sound lovely, practical and kind. It sounds like maybe some in the group were trying to assuage their guilty consciences over their own laziness by patronising you. If I was being kind to them I would say maybe they were awed by your catering prowess (you did a huge amount, very well, and quite last minute) and felt intimidated. But there’s no need for them to be mean.

skippy67 · 08/03/2022 12:21

It's a compliment. You should've spoken up earlier about the division of labour if you were unhappy about it.

NowEvenBetter · 08/03/2022 12:21

How is it a compliment? Do you call chefs ‘feeders’? Surely you must, to compliment them 🥴

Buzzer3555 · 08/03/2022 12:22

I get that you feel put upon and patronised. Whereas the "feeder " comment was tactless I doubt it was meant to upset you. You have made your feelings clear to the organiser so try to move on.

Workinghardeveryday · 08/03/2022 12:22

I would take that as a compliment.

Honestly you are thinking too much about it and reading too much into possibly if you have worries about your own weight.

Your food sounds delicious, it was a compliment.

queencrunch · 08/03/2022 12:24

Feeder is not a compliment!! What's wrong with your a great cook ? Hate that term.

SleepingStandingUp · 08/03/2022 12:25

You're massively over thinking it.

I get your point. When we talk about "she's a feeder" there's this thing about someone really fat and them having someone who enables that and makes them fatter by constantly supplying food which is a bad thing as it makes them more and more obese

But there's a friendlier interpretation which I guess in other iterations would be the mother hen or similar, the one who looks after and cares for people. The one who makes sure there's enough for every one and no one goes without. This is what they mean. Even the comment about "making us fat" is "you're food is so good I can't resist it" not "you're force feeding us".

Absolutely step back next time. If yo u want to cook, suggest on the first night a washing up rota. Have someone down to tidy the kitchen Fri night, a few to clean and tidy after breakfast Saturday, a few for Saturday night etc.

No one puts their name down so if there's gaps you say "oh Mandy, I've missed you off. Can I put you on clean up crew Sunday" etc.

Because people are by nature lazy and will let someone else mother them when they can. We do volunteer events with 100 people and it's always the same ones in the kitchen washing up (🙋

tiredanddangerous · 08/03/2022 12:26

The division of labour was absolutely unfair but you are completely overreacting about the use of feeder in my opinion.

Gizacluethen · 08/03/2022 12:27

Completely depends on context. A skinny person always feeding fatter people to make themselves feel better is bad. Someone constantly feeding their massively overweight, immobile loved one is bad.

Someone that brings lovely food is a good feeder I'd probably use a different word but you're my favourite kind of person.

And the lazy gits were excusing themselves from doing anything because you were doing so well.

bedheadedzombie · 08/03/2022 12:27

Feeder is definately an insult. I'm aghast that some people think it's not.

Gizacluethen · 08/03/2022 12:28

But there's a friendlier interpretation which I guess in other iterations would be the mother hen or similar, the one who looks after and cares for people. The one who makes sure there's enough for every one and no one goes without. This is what they mean. Even the comment about "making us fat" is "you're food is so good I can't resist it" not "you're force feeding us".

Yes you said it much better than me.

EmmaH2022 · 08/03/2022 12:28

I’m overweight and also see it is an insult. I first heard the term from a tv program and that might affect my impression. But everywhere I worked has jokes about office feeders which are meant to be fun. I don’t know. Words evolve so fast now. Next time you should get out of all duties though.

SpinningTheSeedsOfLove · 08/03/2022 12:28

'Feeder' is a shitty word to apply to someone else, and women who read books and presumably have a knowledge of how language works should know that. 'Feeder' implies either bad faith or unconsciously damaging action.

So pleased you tackled them on the unfair division of labour and the vocabulary.

Igmum · 08/03/2022 12:29

It's an insult to you. They may (almost certainly didn't) intend it was such but you told them how you felt and they didn't listen. And yes, you were put upon - tbf this always happens with groups with a small number chipping in and others doing sod all. If you go again I suggest you gang up with the other workers and insist that you put your feet up next time while the ones that did nothing do the cooking.

P.S. your food sounds fabulous 😋

LoganberryJam · 08/03/2022 12:29

YANBU to be cross that others didn't pull their weight, but I think you have over reacted about the word 'feeder'. I don't think it's a compliment, but it's not an insult either. More like a statement of fact? Some people like cooking for others, some people don't.

WellyoucantellbythewayI · 08/03/2022 12:30

I’m vacillating .. for me it’s a term used wrt people with eating disorders. Anorexics, too, often insist on feeding people up.

I wouldn’t be happy if I were you OP. (I don’t want to make you feel worse and would love to be able to say it’s a compliment.)

If it is ever used as a compliment it would be in the context of a family - enjoying happy sociable occasions with good food and being prepared to do the cooking in order to facilitate that.

In the context you mentioned, no.
She had a total bloody cheek sitting round doing nothing & saying that to you.

Billandben444 · 08/03/2022 12:30

I wouldn't have been insulted - you took over more/most of the cooking and they were expressing their thanks in a clumsy way. Personally I wouldn't have let the lazy buggers take advantage of me like that and would have gone for a long walk/nap while they did their share of the cooking and washing up - it's a bit late to speak up when it's all over.

Wtfdoipick · 08/03/2022 12:31

I'm a feeder, it's a loaded term. It isn't a weight insult my exceedingly slim aunt is a feeder too. It's a displacement I want the food, so I cook it and then feed it to others so I don't have to eat it myself. The same with my aunt. Its not a compliment but it isn't insulting your size either

MedusasBadHairDay · 08/03/2022 12:32

I'd say feeder has negative connotations too honestly.

To me it means someone who tries to coerce/force others into eating more than they necessarily want. Whether it's a well meaning action or not. To me it's a term normally used for people who are seen as feeding others in an unhealthy way, either as a substitute for showing affection or in order to ensure others aren't eating healthily

HerRoyalNotness · 08/03/2022 12:32

It’s a strange word to use, I’d never say it tbh. I’d say things like you’re so considerate to help others and a great cook, generous host etc, not a feeder!

Erinyes · 08/03/2022 12:33

Honestly, I think you’re focusing on the wrong thing. You allowed yourself to be railroaded into doing the overwhelming majority of catering for a big group on a weekend away — it’s no wonder some of the less-involved/lazier people were associating you with the production of vast amounts of food. I think you should stop worrying about the connotations of ‘feeder’ and work on saying ‘no’. (Your food sounds lovely).