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AIBU: asked to make scones, then called a feeder...

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Queenofscones · 08/03/2022 12:13

I've name-changed for this. I'm sorry it's so long. I'm a member of a women's book group that has grown over the years to be more like a women's social group. We decided to celebrate the end of Covid regulations by renting a large self-catering house on the coast and having a long weekend of walking, talking, reading, yoga etc. There were 18 of us and the organiser asked various of us to each take responsibility for a meal. I was asked to provide scones for the afternoon we all arrived. No problem: I'm a decent home cook. Then about a week before we were due to go the organiser contacted me to say five of those attending were vegan, so could I provide something for them. I have a good vegan brownie recipe, so I added a batch of brownies to my to-do list.

Then at about three days notice the woman who was due to make Saturday night's supper went down with a cold that might have been Covid and I was asked to take over that, too, because apparently no one else was available (hmmm). She'd bought all the ingredients for veggie lasagne so I collected the ingredients from her and made and froze two big lasagnes. Then to cater for the vegans I made a separate vegan pasta dish.

I turned up early on the Friday afternoon and put out 18 scones and a dozen brownies for everyone. I knew I'd over-catered, but you never know
how much people will eat on these kind of occasions. They'd come out well and everyone enjoyed them.

That evening the woman tasked with cooking Friday night's meal got a bit overwhelmed and so I spent a couple of hours in the kitchen assisting and helped her serve up her Mexican feast (which was delicious). It became clear by Saturday that I'd been labelled the kitchen queen and also that about half the group weren't helping with the washing up or any aspect of the meals. They'd pick up a tea towel, dry a cup and then vanish, leaving what they called the 'kitchen crew' to pick up the slack.

On the Saturday, when we all came back from a long walk, I put the left-over scones and brownies out and several women ate them and then said things like 'You're going to make me fat!' I was the biggest person there: I'm a size 18-20. I began to feel really uncomfortable about the whole situation. That evening I served the lasagnes. They were particularly good (I don't always get things right) and everyone was very complimentary. One of them, who's extra-slim, came into the kitchen when others were around and thanked me for the food and said 'It's always great to have a feeder around at events like this because then the rest of us get to eat so well.' A couple of other people picked it up and wanted to pat me on the back for being a feeder. I said that I I thought the word 'feeder' was something thin people used to put down fat people and I'd prefer them not to use it. They insisted it was a compliment.

I came home feeling angry with myself for falling into the trap of taking so much of the food provision on to be helpful, and also with the women who'd enjoyed my food but then put me in my pace by calling me a feeder. To me the word carries a lot of condescension — as if they are above providing food and as if food isn't really important and it wouldn't have mattered if no one had bothered to organise meals.

I called the organisers yesterday and told them that I wouldn't be involved in the provision or preparation of food on any subsequent trips away. I said I felt that the division of labour had been unfair. They listened and agreed that too much of the responsibility for the food had fallen on just three of us, and they agreed that some women hadn't done their fair share of work and were as p*ed off as I was about it. But they said 'feeder' is a compliment, not an insult, and implied that it's my own weight issue that has made me unduly sensitive to the word.

It's doing my head in. Am I AIBU to be agree to feed people, then told I'm a feeder and feel insulted?

OP posts:
betwixtlives · 08/03/2022 14:11

you’re being overly sensitive (are you generally sensitive about your size?) but they took the piss by letting you do so much of the kitchen work. 2 separate issues

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 08/03/2022 14:16

I would not take feeder as a compliment. I also think they were lazy and selfish.

TheOrigRights · 08/03/2022 14:28

Feeder? Err no, that's a horrible term. Doesn't it mean trying to fatten someone up?

A good cook.
Someone who enjoys cooking.
Someone who expresses themselves through cooking (in the same way someone else might have hand made a little token for everyone to keep).
Those are better ways to express it.

amicissimma · 08/03/2022 14:29

It's interesting that you are upset about people using a term that comments on the way you behave with food, but are happy to directly comment on the size of the 'extra-slim' person. Maybe she has problems with her size and would be upset if she knew you were commenting on it.

Or would you suggest that's OK because, however she feels, you saying 'extra slim' is a compliment, while 'feeder' is an insult, even if she meant it as a compliment, because of how you feel?

Queenofscones · 08/03/2022 14:29

No, I'm not over-sensitive about my size I don't think. I've always been a 'strapping' girl and woman, and although I do try to keep my weight down and do try to eat healthily I long-ago came to realise I'm just designed to be bigger than many other people. I'm a Miranda Hart type. Huge wrists and hands and feet, wide shoulders, broad rib-cage. Never going to be small and ladylike.

I think it's a combination not just of the words that people said, but what I know of those people (we go back quite a long way) and the context and way it was said that all add up to feeling insulting. It's an interesting group that spans a 20+-year age range and a wide social range too. There's quite a high percentage of high-fliers: lawyers, accountants, medics, senior civil service types. They are the ones who tend to get away with doing sod-all. I think there's quite a lot of deference shown to them because they are always so busy and so stressed and too important to be bothering themselves with scones. I imagine they don't do a lot of domestic work: they have cleaners etc. The Upstairs, Downstairs dynamic has long been a tension in the group.

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RockinHorseShit · 08/03/2022 14:34

FTR I've had it levelled at me too, as like you I can rustle up quantities of food to a decent standard if someone needs to step up. I'm fairly slim, so I never took it as a weight insult, but more I was bullying them into bad habits, which isn't much of a compliment when you have stepped up & slaved away over a hot stove & yes it did piss me

NeverDropYourMooncup · 08/03/2022 14:35

A feeder is an abusive person who gets off on pushing food onto somebody else who either doesn't want it or has MH issues that means they can't say no. Sometimes for sexual kicks, sometimes for control because their supermorbidly obese victim is therefore completely dependent upon them as a result of their addiction/compulsion/physical immobility, sometimes because it makes them feel good to have everybody around them thanking them for all the fantastic food.

The person who pushes a 240kg partner to finish off the cake and when asked for something healthier, goes all sad faced if they don't accept the tub of ice cream covered with whipped cream, syrup and sprinkles, then orders in pizza is a feeder.

The parent of a child almost as wide as they are tall, doesn't have any preexisting conditions, but is handed three doughnuts and a can of coke at the school gate and pulls a face at the idea of fruit and veg 'oh, eww, you won't like that, have a chocolate bar/you really love your mummy because I give you lovely things to eat' is a feeder.

Your offence is justified. It might not have been meant like that, but words have meanings even if the user doesn't look into the wider context.

RockinHorseShit · 08/03/2022 14:40

I've also been called 'so northern" for baking for a party. From people who openly think "it's grim up north & women are all Hilda Ogden type drudges & southerners don't like stodgy food 🥴🙄. It was hilarious when my tray of food to a "bring a tray of party food & bottle party" invite was the only empty one at the end of the night

Says way more about them than me.😂

VinylCafe · 08/03/2022 14:41

@Nogardenersworld

I think feeder can be an insult or a compliment However I think it’s mostly used when people want to eat, but don’t want to be at ‘fault’ so they say someone else is a feeder and it takes the responsibility (and guilt) from them, like they couldn’t help it.

In your case it also takes away the guilt of not helping out. Queenofscones loves cooking, she loves being in the kitchen, she probably even loves washing up. It’s definitely nothing to do with me being lazy, or taking advantage, I’m just leaving her to get on with what she loves. Because she’s a feeder.

I’d judge them for being a bit pathetic but I think it’s a comment completely on them and not you.

Absolutely this!

I think it was a compliment/insult meant to offhandedly thank you and knock you down a peg. You showed them up by being being able to cook wonderful meals so efficiently. Good on you for voicing your objections.

BloodyN0rah · 08/03/2022 14:48

I suspect they were just trying to justify their own crapness over the weekend, like there was no point in them doing anything because Queen is such a feeder. If they can convince themselves that they'd be taking away from your enjoyment if they actually pulled their weight. Well done is speaking up though.

HumousWhereTheHeartIs · 08/03/2022 14:50

The word feeder does not imply there is any talent or skill involved.

Onlyforcake · 08/03/2022 14:55

It's an insult. It's used to describe what can be part of a controlling relationship. It is negative.

HotPenguin · 08/03/2022 14:56

YANBU it is an odd word to use, to me it means someone who pushes food on to other people. Given everything you did they should have shown more gratitude and respect - sounds like you are a great cook and a grafter, those would have been nicer things to say.

Seraphinesupport · 08/03/2022 15:04

i mean techniquelly a feeder is a sexual term so it is weird to use that word.

“feeder” (those who become sexually aroused by feeding their partners and encouraging them to gain weight, sometimes to a state of immobility) For anyone wondering.

Its not a insult nor a compliment its just weird.

Firstruleofsoupover · 08/03/2022 15:19

I would be very disappointed with those comments especially since there were some feminists present. Some women have a blind spot to sense when it comes to food/eating/their weight/how they want to present their relationship with food, no matter how sensible they are in other areas. Feeder, good grief. Like you've got some hidden motive for shopping, planning, working, sorting all the logistics for this lot other than the reality which was your good nature combined with knowing from experience you could do it, topped up with a large helping of others ducking out and you nobly accepting additional work. Ah yes, she's a feeder! But look how little I am allowing myself though, aren't I excellent! No. You're just annoying and graceless.

optionsgalore · 08/03/2022 15:20

I agree with the posters who've said it's a way of trying to put you down to alleviate their own guilt at shirking any work on the trip - 'kitchen crew' made me seethe as well.

Sounds like you've handled the situation well! I'd be interested in whether any of them will connect their words/behaviour to you taking a back seat on the cooking/work on future trips.

Also a complete aside but I would LOVE to be part of a feminist walking/eating/reading/good for the soul weekend. Maybe without the passive aggressiveness you had to put up with but it sounds amazing.

Howshouldibehave · 08/03/2022 15:23

My friend-who is a fabulous cook-describes herself as a ‘feeder’. I had never really heard it used before and it suits her well-she is very nurturing and a wonderful hostess.

These women were just being lazy and bitchy!

Laska2Meryls · 08/03/2022 15:24

Me too , if the people were a bit nicer...

AryaStarkWolf · 08/03/2022 15:34

If you asked me what a "feeder" was I would have thought it was someone who enabled a fat person to get fatter by constantly feeding them/a person who "fattens people up" by feeding them I would say they meant it as a compliment in your situation and I don't think it's used by thin people to put fat people down at all. I've called my husband a feeder sometimes, if I'm trying to lose weight for example but he keeps offering me treats etc

tkwal · 08/03/2022 15:35

HerRoyalNotness

What you said 👏

GoodnessTruthBeauty · 08/03/2022 15:38

If you ever go on one of these trips again make sure EVERYONE gets to take responsibility for food prep, serving and clean up. So wrong when people are oblivious to the work others are doing around them and take no responsibility.

ZaZathecat · 08/03/2022 15:43

I don't think it was meant as an insult, but it DOES sound patronising. Especially if anyone said 'bless!' in the same sentence!

GeorgiaGirl52 · 08/03/2022 15:48

@Gizacluethen

But there's a friendlier interpretation which I guess in other iterations would be the mother hen or similar, the one who looks after and cares for people. The one who makes sure there's enough for every one and no one goes without. This is what they mean. Even the comment about "making us fat" is "you're food is so good I can't resist it" not "you're force feeding us".

Yes you said it much better than me.

I am obese and diabetic and also a very good cook. I get asked to bring foods to events that I don't even eat myself. I take "feeder" the way it was said as a Compliment, definitely. Like "right hand Man" etc.
PerseverancePays · 08/03/2022 16:01

It was patronising and for a book group , ignorant. Probably a good dose of misplaced class superiority , the lazy twerps feeling themselves above doing their fair share of chores.
When someone brings good food that they have made, there are compliments to be offered to the cook. Labelling them as 'feeder' is just disgusting. And then gaslighting them when they object, words fail me.

SpiderinaWingMirror · 08/03/2022 16:03

I wouldn't take it as a compliment.....It implies you are trying to fatten people up.
Sod that.